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Winston Smith wrote on Jul 1 st, 2014 at 10:29am: austranger wrote on Jul 1 st, 2014 at 10:27am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 5:32pm: austranger wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 5:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 4:59pm: austranger wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 4:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 3:52pm: sherri wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 3:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 3:22pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 3:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 2:56pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 30 th, 2014 at 2:40pm: ____ wrote on Jun 28 th, 2014 at 7:16pm: Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28 th, 2014 at 7:12pm: No wonder the greens get no votes these days. Come on, you had your chance in the other thread and you ran. Don't post the same endless drivel in this thread and ignore the opening question. Why do humans have to procreate ... simple enough question surely. For the same reason everything else in Nature does. And what is that reason? Continuation of the species is the simplest way to put it. For what reason though? Sometimes there doesn't have to be a reason.  It's sort of like chocolate, having a child can give people a deep sense of pleasure. I had a friend who told us how she viewed it. For years she had listened to other women tell their birthing tales, their tales of toddlers, tales of parenthood, and then she eventually had a child. "I have my own story now," she said. Deep satisfaction. If you don't want children, don't have any, it isn't obligatory. But for a lot of people, having at least one child is something they yearn for. And why shouldn't people exist? We have as much right to be here as any butterfly or elephant or any other form of life. I think the world would be better off if we could lower population numbers, lower the birth rate, but trying to stop people from reproducing at all would just not work. It is what it is, you just have to accept some things. I'm not questioning why individuals have kids. I'm asking why the "continuation of the species" is important. Why is breathing important? Same answer, because that's the way the Universe (Nature) made us. We are what we are, it's really that simple, and the drive to breed is a part of what we are, exactly the same as every other form of life on this planet, because without that we wouldn't exist, would we? Like I said, the question is a futile flight of philosophical fantasy  I don't think you read the question properly. I'm not talking about breeding. I'm asking why the "continuation of the species" is important. Or, to put it another way, why is it important that we exist? Totally meaningless question, on any real level. You're basically getting into the realm of "The Meaning of Life", a question better posted on the Philosophy board. It's a perfectly legitimate question. I didn't question it's legitimacy, any question is innately legitimate, I said it was meaningless, which it is. We exist, therefore we exist, if we don't breed we won't exist. Importance is a value judgement, and one has to ask in relation to what, or how, you establish it. Hence it is Philosophy even to ask. Since if we didn't exist we couldn't ask, it's meaningless in any real sense, it's word games, soul searching, call it what you will. I'll simplify it for you. What were you thinking when you decided to have kids? It's not a philosophical question. You've moved the goal posts just a tad, lol. I quote you: "I'm not talking about breeding.
I'm asking why the "continuation of the species" is important.
Or, to put it another way, why is it important that we exist? "If that isn't a philosophical question then I'm your Aunty Mary's left titt! So, now you want my personal reasons for so deciding? Well I'll answer, sort of, it's far too complicated to go into at length here. Basically because since I had an adopted son I loved who was lonely and I myself wanted to have kids carrying my own genes, and the missus didn't give a sh*t either way, she was totally non-maternal, which explains me ending up a single-dad shortly after the birth of my second natural child (I wanted six actually  ). Obviously I've reduced it nearly ad absurdum but it's as near as I'm willing to go. I'll just have to hope that that leaves you in a state of enlightenment.
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