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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #180 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:35pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:02pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 5:20pm:

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No, YOUR acceptance of AGW is 'entirely political' There is no where near enough evidence to support the Green/Environmentalist version of the modern climate.

And AGW IS false, the evidence is ridiculous.

No, it's not. I would really prefer it to be wrong. The weight of the evidence convinces me otherwise.

Your dismissal of our best science that supports AGW and acceptance of the dissenters as more credible makes it hard to take your opinion on this matter seriously. The idea that all our collection of evidence for AGW is flawed and only a tiny proportion of experts has noticed is an incredible claim.

Like I said, I don't believe any evidence can convince you, no matter how strong, because if hasn't yet, it never will. I have gone into depth before about the actual evidence and what it represents.

There is always a possibility that majority interpretation is wrong, that is the nature of scientific inquiry, but this view was built over decades. It simply makes not sense to latch onto a small group of dissenters and assume they must be right unless it is for idealogical reasons.

But the 'weight of evidence' that you are using doesn't line up with the computer models or the real world evidence.

trouble in paradise ?

the hounds continue to yap ..

forgiven

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #181 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:36pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 5^th, 2014 at 9:49am:

There is one part where the insert admits no adequate and well-controlled studies have been conducted in pregnant women, however the insert then states FLULAVAL should only be given to pregnant women inf clearly needed.

http://infinivert.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/3p38ni.jpg

A very sad attempt wharfy

many blessings

your whole government sycophanatacism

is distasteful to watch

carry on regardless

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #182 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:36pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:02pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 5:20pm:

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No, YOUR acceptance of AGW is 'entirely political' There is no where near enough evidence to support the Green/Environmentalist version of the modern climate.

And AGW IS false, the evidence is ridiculous.

No, it's not. I would really prefer it to be wrong. The weight of the evidence convinces me otherwise.

Your dismissal of our best science that supports AGW and acceptance of the dissenters as more credible makes it hard to take your opinion on this matter seriously. The idea that all our collection of evidence for AGW is flawed and only a tiny proportion of experts has noticed is an incredible claim.

Like I said, I don't believe any evidence can convince you, no matter how strong, because if hasn't yet, it never will. I have gone into depth before about the actual evidence and what it represents.

There is always a possibility that majority interpretation is wrong, that is the nature of scientific inquiry, but this view was built over decades. It simply makes not sense to latch onto a small group of dissenters and assume they must be right unless it is for idealogical reasons.

But the 'weight of evidence' that you are using doesn't line up with the computer models or the real world evidence.

trouble in paradise ?

the hounds continue to yap ..

forgiven

namaste

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Stop humping my leg thank you

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #183 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:03pm

"Mick and Kirsten Button’s daughter Saba was just 11 months old when she received the Fluvax shot in April 2010.

"The then toddler suffered a hypoxic brain injury, kidney, liver and bone marrow failure. She can now no longer walk and talk and needs round-the-clock care."

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/parents-of-saba-button-who-was...

Poor little bugger Cry

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #184 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:03pm:

"Mick and Kirsten Button’s daughter Saba was just 11 months old when she received the Fluvax shot in April 2010.

"The then toddler suffered a hypoxic brain injury, kidney, liver and bone marrow failure. She can now no longer walk and talk and needs round-the-clock care."

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/parents-of-saba-button-who-was...

Poor little bugger Cry

there are many stories like this

it remains a crime against humanity

these mercury filled vaccines are severely

attacking all human bodies whom absorb the shot ,

some get hot shots as it were

others allow the mercury to leech into their

endocrine systems , and as such

you can see manifest these dupes whom continue

to trumpet the advantages of toxins in

their bloodstream and calcification of

their pineal gland they seem happy enough

as they continue to repeat the script they have

downloaded... yet when this does not work

against facts and truths , they bring out the

limp wrist and commence lame pot shots

as their bodies are destroyed and saturated

via squalene and mercury toxic vaccines

these are forgiven yes

yet they say and poorly attempt to

convince you its good .. its not working ,

these remain forgiven

confused and mercury addled yes

yet forgiven

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #185 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:24pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

Attacking immunisations is wrong ...

Tell that to Mick and Kirsten Button.

"Mick and Kirsten Button’s daughter Saba was just 11 months old when she received the Fluvax shot in April 2010.

"The then toddler suffered a hypoxic brain injury, kidney, liver and bone marrow failure. She can now no longer walk and talk and needs round-the-clock care."

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #186 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:35pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 3:39pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 3:26pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

The whole anti-science thing to me is just baffling

The anti-immunisation thing doesn't indicate much of an anti-science stance. Just a bunch of lentil eating hippies, listening to health food/'natural' remedy sellers, without realising that the anti-immunisation people want to make money.

Even climate skepticism isn't 'anti-science' like the idiots claim.

No it's not specifically, but there is this type of non rational thinking approach that causes people to take the arguments more seriously than they should.

No, the 'anti-science' skepticism is based on a belief in ACTUAL science, rather than politicised 'science'. AGW 'science' is not, in fact, a version of the scientific method.

The people taking the arguments seriously are the ones who really understand how science is supposed to work.

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #187 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 3:39pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 3:26pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

The whole anti-science thing to me is just baffling

The anti-immunisation thing doesn't indicate much of an anti-science stance. Just a bunch of lentil eating hippies, listening to health food/'natural' remedy sellers, without realising that the anti-immunisation people want to make money.

Even climate skepticism isn't 'anti-science' like the idiots claim.

No it's not specifically, but there is this type of non rational thinking approach that causes people to take the arguments more seriously than they should.

No, the 'anti-science' skepticism is based on a belief in ACTUAL science, rather than politicised 'science'. AGW 'science' is not, in fact, a version of the scientific method.

The people taking the arguments seriously are the ones who really understand how science is supposed to work.

http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/see_no_logic_spock.jpg

Which doesn't mean anything...since everything YOU already believe is illogical.

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131492 Gender:	Re: Less parents immunising children Reply #188 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:15pm There seems to be a real lack of concern for poor little Saba Button. I'm sure it would be different if she was their child.
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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #189 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:15pm:

There seems to be a real lack of concern for poor little Saba Button.

I'm sure it would be different if she was their child.

many blessings

they have eyes yet fail to see

a very dangerous place indeed it is

when these miscreants force vaccines

unto unsuspecting and trusting types ..

very sinister this non human agenda is

we can plainly see

and so it is

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #190 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 6:29am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 3:39pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 3:26pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

The whole anti-science thing to me is just baffling

The anti-immunisation thing doesn't indicate much of an anti-science stance. Just a bunch of lentil eating hippies, listening to health food/'natural' remedy sellers, without realising that the anti-immunisation people want to make money.

Even climate skepticism isn't 'anti-science' like the idiots claim.

No it's not specifically, but there is this type of non rational thinking approach that causes people to take the arguments more seriously than they should.

No, the 'anti-science' skepticism is based on a belief in ACTUAL science, rather than politicised 'science'. AGW 'science' is not, in fact, a version of the scientific method.

The people taking the arguments seriously are the ones who really understand how science is supposed to work.

http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/see_no_logic_spock.jpg

Which doesn't mean anything...since everything YOU already believe is illogical.

many blessings

let us expand on this concept of logic ..

unto your warped individual concept of reality

and the modicum of trust you place in

pharmaceutical companies literally placing

your life in their hands thinking they have

the antidote to your abnormal human condition..

some actually believe this and let

these institutions of death fill their veins

with mercury and squalene , severely decimate

their pineal gland and endocrine system

physical glandular pathways and centers

preventing these to activate the 7 liquid layered

oscillator of light

http://www.balancedenergy.co.nz/news/in-the-press/healthy-options-magazine/the-h...

enabling one to achieve

their highest potential ...

so realize this fact

or continue to harm your systems

you think one such as I am is illogical from

your warped view yes yet further

I bring forth the position that you are illogical

and you limp wristedly do the switcheroo

no prizes for second there sunshine and

however

the facts pertaining to the matter

and antimatter for that matter ,

find you in lack and simply expose

drone like sycophanaticisms and subservience

unto a non human agenda

truth remains you allow toxins into your temple

and you think its good ..

you simply are a drug addict

hooked on mercury and squalene .

carry on regardless as we do not partake

in your demiurge

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #191 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 1:01pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:23pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 6:02pm:

But the 'weight of evidence' that you are using doesn't line up with the computer models or the real world evidence.

The models have a range of accuracy and line up with observations, what nonsense are you spouting

No they don't. There has been NO noticeable warming for over 15 years. Which the models do NOT show.

Is the coolaid tasty??

Only if you talk about surface temperature alone, most of the warming has been in oceans, which is accounted for in the most recent modelling.

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #193 - Jun 13^th, 2014 at 8:38pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 7^th, 2014 at 6:29am:

the antidote to your abnormal human condition..

Light, can I PLEASE put that into my sig? That's awesome.

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 7^th, 2014 at 6:29am:

preventing these to activate the 7 liquid layered oscillator of light

Come on guys, don't tell me your light oscillators aren't working? It's disco time!

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 7^th, 2014 at 6:29am:

drone like sycophanaticisms and subservience unto a non human agenda

Hey I think Light's onto something here. He's actually technically correct - corporations are non-human. So, by being a corporate toady, you're being subservient to a non-human agenda.

PS: But I still support vaccination, on the grounds that it stops children from dying of various illnesses.

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Re: Less parents immunising children
Reply #194 - Jun 14^th, 2014 at 8:18am

It's not that hard.

Not all vaccines or medicines are equal.

Some are, overall, safer than others.

It comes down to the greatest good for the greatest number and we've gone from a country where polio, for example, was a scourge, to where suddenly it was almost wiped out.

So you make your choices and take your chances.

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