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Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:02pm  
I read this today and was at a loss to work out just who is the silliest.

The bureaucrats who put this in place, or us for putting up with it.....

A lady went to her local RMS to advise them of her mother's death, so as to cancel her licence and rego.

She was advised that the NSW Government of Births, Deaths & Marriages document "Medical Certificate of Cause of Death" is not acceptable for the purpose of cancelling a NSW driver's licence.....

There was no mention of what proof you had to produce.

Huh Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:13pm  
Maybe you have to wheel in the corpse?
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Reply #2 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:21pm  
Give the licence to a pensioner who has had theirs cancelled??

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Reply #3 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:40pm  
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:02pm:
I read this today and was at a loss to work out just who is the silliest.

The bureaucrats who put this in place, or us for putting up with it.....

A lady went to her local RMS to advise them of her mother's death, so as to cancel her licence and rego.

She was advised that the NSW Government of Births, Deaths & Marriages document "Medical Certificate of Cause of Death" is not acceptable for the purpose of cancelling a NSW driver's licence.....

There was no mention of what proof you had to produce.

Huh Huh Huh Huh


The Medical Certificate Cause of Death is issued by a Doctor and is sent to BDM. 

It is not the same as the official Death Certificate which is then issued by BDM and is the proof required.   
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Reply #4 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:59pm  
Alinta wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:40pm:
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:02pm:
I read this today and was at a loss to work out just who is the silliest.

The bureaucrats who put this in place, or us for putting up with it.....

A lady went to her local RMS to advise them of her mother's death, so as to cancel her licence and rego.

She was advised that the NSW Government of Births, Deaths & Marriages document "Medical Certificate of Cause of Death" is not acceptable for the purpose of cancelling a NSW driver's licence.....

There was no mention of what proof you had to produce.

Huh Huh Huh Huh


The Medical Certificate Cause of Death is issued by a Doctor and is sent to BDM. 

It is not the same as the official Death Certificate which is then issued by BDM and is the proof required.   



Fair enough...
Does seem a bit 'nit-picky' though....
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Reply #5 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:07pm  
Hang on a minute......

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Births, Deaths & Marriages document "Medical Certificate of Cause of Death" is not acceptable (Me)


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official Death Certificate which is then issued by BDM and is the proof required. (you)


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Medical Certificate Cause of Death is issued by a Doctor (You)


So, which one are we using???

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Reply #6 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:09pm  
And it's still "nit-picking"...

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Reply #7 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:18pm  
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:07pm:
Hang on a minute......

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Births, Deaths & Marriages document "Medical Certificate of Cause of Death" is not acceptable (Me)


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official Death Certificate which is then issued by BDM and is the proof required. (you)


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Medical Certificate Cause of Death is issued by a Doctor (You)


So, which one are we using???

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I'm sticking with mine .........the Med Cert Cause of Death is sent to BDM and held on record, but it is not a BDM created document.

BDM creates and issues the Death Certificate.

Do you have a link to what you read/heard???
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Reply #8 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:24pm  
Column 8, SMH, 16.4.'14....

Can't find a link.

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Reply #9 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:32pm  
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:24pm:
Column 8, SMH, 16.4.'14....

Can't find a link.

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Yep, I found it............she's correct that Med Cert Cause of Death  enables a funeral to go ahead...

....but she's incorrect in referring to that certificate as a BDM document.......she needs the BDM issued Death Certificate to cancel the licence and rego.
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Reply #10 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:35pm  
Think I just sorted it out for myself....

And it's still nit-picking on the part of RMS.

Not that I'm planning on using, or having used for me, one in the near future....

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Reply #11 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:39pm  
Alinta wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:32pm:
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:24pm:
Column 8, SMH, 16.4.'14....

Can't find a link.

Smiley


Yep, I found it............she's correct that Med Cert Cause of Death  enables a funeral to go ahead...

....but she's incorrect in referring to that certificate as a BDM document.......she needs the BDM issued Death Certificate to cancel the licence and rego.


Bit of a dead-end topic, one might say....

But one should'nt.......

Wink

Thanx for helping me sort that out.
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Reply #12 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:46pm  
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:35pm:
Think I just sorted it out for myself....

And it's still nit-picking on the part of RMS.

Not that I'm planning on using, or having used for me, one in the near future....

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I sure hope not!!!!!

I can understand the woman's reaction though..........I was gobsmacked and angry when Australia Post would not accept a Med Cert Cause of Death to redirect my late brother's mail from regional NSW to my address in Melbourne
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Reply #13 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:46pm  
why would you bother cancelling a dead persons license? it will lapse eventually
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Reply #14 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:51pm  
Alinta wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:35pm:
Think I just sorted it out for myself....

And it's still nit-picking on the part of RMS.

Not that I'm planning on using, or having used for me, one in the near future....

Wink


I sure hope not!!!!!

I can understand the woman's reaction though..........I was gobsmacked and angry when Australia Post would not accept a Med Cert Cause of Death to redirect my late brother's mail from regional NSW to my address in Melbourne


ME 2...

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Reply #15 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:54pm  
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
why would you bother cancelling a dead persons license? it will lapse eventually


I'd let it go, myself.....

That'd be the least of my worries at a time like that.
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Reply #16 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 9:14pm  
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:54pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
why would you bother cancelling a dead persons license? it will lapse eventually


I'd let it go, myself.....

That'd be the least of my worries at a time like that.





they have to refund you the balance...some people need that money.. why give it to the govt.
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Reply #17 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 9:21pm  
cods wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 9:14pm:
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:54pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
why would you bother cancelling a dead persons license? it will lapse eventually


I'd let it go, myself.....

That'd be the least of my worries at a time like that.





they have to refund you the balance...some people need that money.. why give it to the govt.


what $100 ? and they wouldn't refund it to anyone, it would go to the estate until the inheritance is all sorted.  it could take months to sort out ... again, I'd forget it. Not worth the drama
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Reply #18 - Apr 16th, 2014 at 10:35pm  
Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:07pm:
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official Death Certificate which is then issued by BDM and is the proof required. (you)




Which is what I used when I cancelled my mother's licence a couple of years ago.  I didn't have any problems with the transaction.
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Reply #19 - Apr 17th, 2014 at 7:38am  
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
why would you bother cancelling a dead persons license? it will lapse eventually


I think there might be some sort of partial refund.
I know my father, a couple of days before he died, told us to remember to cancel his licence and get some money back as he wouldn't be needing it.
He was a very practical sort of man, my dad, but I am not sure if we ever got around to doing that.
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Team Froggie wrote on Apr 16th, 2014 at 7:02pm:
I read this today and was at a loss to work out just who is the silliest.

The bureaucrats who put this in place, or us for putting up with it.....

A lady went to her local RMS to advise them of her mother's death, so as to cancel her licence and rego.

She was advised that the NSW Government of Births, Deaths & Marriages document "Medical Certificate of Cause of Death" is not acceptable for the purpose of cancelling a NSW driver's licence.....

There was no mention of what proof you had to produce.

Huh Huh Huh Huh

5 different people will tell you five different stories about what is acceptable or not  Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - Apr 17th, 2014 at 8:58pm  
The story is a wind up.

They don't give refunds on licenses. Registrations, yes - Licenses, no.

The medical certificate cause of death can't be used because it's a document that's processed by BD&M - not issued by it.

Any RTA or similar office employee would know full well what docs and forms are required as it's not an uncommon request. Only the executor of the estate or the solicitor can apply for a refund on registration.

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Reply #22 - Apr 17th, 2014 at 9:18pm  
Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 17th, 2014 at 8:58pm:
The story is a wind up.

They don't give refunds on licenses. Registrations, yes - Licenses, no.

The medical certificate cause of death can't be used because it's a document that's processed by BD&M - not issued by it.

Any RTA or similar office employee would know full well what docs and forms are required as it's not an uncommon request. Only the executor of the estate or the solicitor can apply for a refund on registration.



Be a bugger if you had just renewed for 5 years and then karked it...
Not that it would worry the karkee.....

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Reply #23 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 5:40pm  
It gets better.....

Quote:
‘‘A few years ago my partner and I took his mother in her wheelchair to have her RTA disability photographic ID card renewed,’’ recalls John Nicol, of Surry Hills (ID nightmares, Column 8, all week). ‘‘They refused to accept her current RTA disability photographic ID as proof of identity (their very own ID, mind you), despite the fact that she was sitting right in front of them. I had to dash to her home to produce an electricity bill in her name for them to be happy.’’


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/column-8/column-8-20140418-zqwag.html#ixzz2zJdNRTgY

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