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Reply #1 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:43am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
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you are talking about philperth right?
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What exactly (in your opinion) is a feminist male?

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Reply #3 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:29am
 

I suppose the non feminist men are the ones that are bulked up on steroids, the body building gurus that live for protein shakes and lifting. They will realise the error of their ways when they get to 35-40. I've seen what happens when they stop and they do stop as they get older.

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Reply #4 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 9:31am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
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Yes, they're the bottom( Wink) of the pecking order.  Perhaps pictures can help to illustrate what sort of men ( Grin) identify as feminists.

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Reply #5 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:09am
 
Heaven forbid another gender....????

Maybe the title of the thread should appropriately be named,

"Children from gay families"

Maybe lesbian families, which would explain there femininity.

A child no matter what gender needs feminine & masculine influences in their lives.



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Reply #6 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:21am
 
If what the OP is getting at is any male who stands up for women on certain issues, who supports their rights in certain respects, then you better count me in.
I don't care what you accuse me of, how you might seek to depict what such men would always look like or WTF you think.
I don't suppose you do think you dumbf**krs. I can see Honky chipping in there and he's a known dill for a start, who thinks he is some kind of male role model.
Thank Christ the majority of Australian men, I believe, don't think like you people!
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bogarde73 wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:21am:
If what the OP is getting at is any male who stands up for women on certain issues, who supports their rights in certain respects, then you better count me in.
I don't care what you accuse me of, how you might seek to depict what such men would always look like or WTF you think.
I don't suppose you do think you dumbf**krs. I can see Honky chipping in there and he's a known dill for a start, who thinks he is some kind of male role model.
Thank Christ the majority of Australian men, I believe, don't think like you people!


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Reply #8 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:38am
 
Could be. There is some similarity. But sleep well.
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Reply #9 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:53am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
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Do you view your wife as an equal, Sprint? Do you think that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities?

I'[m betting that if a woman you loved was discriminated against because of her sex, you'd hit the roof.

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Reply #10 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 11:12am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
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It's nice when a male stands up for a female occasionally, but this courtesy is dying out. I think the losers are those males (and some females) who sit there quietly and don't say boo or else jump on the vilification bandwagon.

A person defending anyone who is being unfairly vilified or disadvantaged, whether male or female, is not a loser.
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Reply #11 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 11:22am
 
No one notices a slice off a cut loaf, leftards.

Sprint's lobotomy hasn't made any difference to the quality of his posts.
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Reply #12 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 11:32am
 
mantra wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 11:12am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
What losers


It's nice when a male stands up for a female occasionally, but this courtesy is dying out. I think the losers are those males (and some females) who sit there quietly and don't say boo or else jump on the vilification bandwagon.

A person defending anyone who is being unfairly vilified or disadvantaged, whether male or female, is not a loser.


That's the keyword right there.
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Reply #13 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 11:35am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:21am:
If what the OP is getting at is any male who stands up for women on certain issues, who supports their rights in certain respects, then you better count me in.
I don't care what you accuse me of, how you might seek to depict what such men would always look like or WTF you think.
I don't suppose you do think you dumbf**krs. I can see Honky chipping in there and he's a known dill for a start, who thinks he is some kind of male role model.
Thank Christ the majority of Australian men, I believe, don't think like you people!


Exactly right.
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Reply #14 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:39pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
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Do you view your wife as an equal, Sprint? Do you think that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities?

I'[m betting that if a woman you loved was discriminated against because of her sex, you'd hit the roof.



Being a man or a woman is no virtue in itself, deserving automatic preferment and so individuals are equal before the law and have the same rights and opportunities.

Individuals have the same opportunities, all else being equal  - but very often all else is not equal. Male/female differences are just one type of difference, hugely exaggerated by ideology, the ideology of thinking in groups and ignoring individual differences.






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Reply #15 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:35pm
 
With every one of little Sprinty's posts, what becomes clearer and clearer is that he's one hell of a f-cked up unit with many unresolved issues.
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Reply #16 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:42pm
 
Soren wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:39pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
What losers



Do you view your wife as an equal, Sprint? Do you think that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities?

I'[m betting that if a woman you loved was discriminated against because of her sex, you'd hit the roof.



Being a man or a woman is no virtue in itself, deserving automatic preferment and so individuals are equal before the law and have the same rights and opportunities.

Individuals have the same opportunities, all else being equal  - but very often all else is not equal. Male/female differences are just one type of difference, hugely exaggerated by ideology, the ideology of thinking in groups and ignoring individual differences.



Quite right, old boy. We're more alike than different, no?

We all have equal rights before the law, and we all have an aromatic rear hole for excreting your stool du jour.

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Reply #17 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:51pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:35pm:
With every oe of little Sprinty's posts, what becomes clearer and clearer is that he's one hell of a f-cked up unit with many unresolved issues.


No no, Sprint's a miracle of the modern age. Look at what he can do with a six word vocabulary and the brain function of a sheep.

It's a testament to the New Zealand health and education systems, it really is.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:51pm:
Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:35pm:
With every oe of little Sprinty's posts, what becomes clearer and clearer is that he's one hell of a f-cked up unit with many unresolved issues.


No no, Sprint's a miracle of the modern age. Look at what he can do with a six word vocabulary and the brain function of a sheep.

It's a testament to the New Zealand health and education systems, it really is.


That's a bit harsh on sheep.
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Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:58pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:51pm:
Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 1:35pm:
With every oe of little Sprinty's posts, what becomes clearer and clearer is that he's one hell of a f-cked up unit with many unresolved issues.


No no, Sprint's a miracle of the modern age. Look at what he can do with a six word vocabulary and the brain function of a sheep.

It's a testament to the New Zealand health and education systems, it really is.


That's a bit harsh on sheep.


I just noticed your picture, dear boy. Present company excluded, of course.

Sprint's more the baa baa kind. You know, land of the long white cloud, all that.
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Reply #20 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 2:22pm
 
In Sprintcyclist's defense - he's stood up for me many times on this board when someone has had a go at me. Amadd is another one who's done the same.

I think his comment might have been directed more at the males who are neuter gender and could swing either way given the chance.
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Absolutely sprint.
I am reminded of a line froma woody allen movie where he is doing
"african american studies" at uni and proclaims "just one more semester til i become black"

feminism is, by definition, a female only domain.
Any man who tries to join the movement is fundamentally confused. As confused a woody.

You can study females all you like but you can never understand or join.
You can read every article ever written on "mangoes" but if youve never put one in your mouth, you are clueless to believe you can ever understand the subject.
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Reply #22 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:27pm
 
Soren wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:39pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
What losers



Do you view your wife as an equal, Sprint? Do you think that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities?

I'[m betting that if a woman you loved was discriminated against because of her sex, you'd hit the roof.



Being a man or a woman is no virtue in itself, deserving automatic preferment and so individuals are equal before the law and have the same rights and opportunities.

Individuals have the same opportunities, all else being equal  - but very often all else is not equal. Male/female differences are just one type of difference, hugely exaggerated by ideology, the ideology of thinking in groups and ignoring individual differences.



We have been posting here a long time. I have never seen you - or Sprint, for that matter - suggest that women shouldn't enjoy the same political, legal, economical and social rights as men purely for the fact that we are women. It is not about sameness. Sure, you'll find feminists with different view points, but at it's core feminism is about securing those basic rights. There is nothing 'less' about a man who identifies as a feminist, because all it means is that he believes women should have those rights.

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Reply #23 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:29pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 2:22pm:
In Sprintcyclist's defense - he's stood up for me many times on this board when someone has had a go at me. Amadd is another one who's done the same.

I think his comment might have been directed more at the males who are neuter gender and could swing either way given the chance.


Men have defended women throughout history, all the while stepping on their necks to keep them down.
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Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, for the right to lavish gifts and protection upon someone who's only claim to it, is that they have a vagina.

Sure sounds oppressive.

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... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.
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Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.


Yep, well everyones got their roles to play and sacrifices to make, but the end result - the continuation of the species - is what we all want. 

If I was going to oppress a person or group, I wouldn't make it so that my life revolved around keeping them provided for, safe and happy.  Kinda defeats the purpose I would have thought.
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... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:48pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.


Yep, well everyones got their roles to play and sacrifices to make, but the end result - the continuation of the species - is what we all want. 

If I was going to oppress a person or group, I wouldn't make it so that my life revolved around keeping them provided for, safe and happy.  Kinda defeats the purpose I would have thought.



That's cos deep down you're a feminist Wink
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Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:29am:
I suppose the non feminist men are the ones that are bulked up on steroids, the body building gurus that live for protein shakes and lifting. They will realise the error of their ways when they get to 35-40. I've seen what happens when they stop and they do stop as they get older.

Warning: never walk between them and a mirror.


Correct.

And never stand between them and their boyfriends.


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Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:55pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:48pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.


Yep, well everyones got their roles to play and sacrifices to make, but the end result - the continuation of the species - is what we all want. 

If I was going to oppress a person or group, I wouldn't make it so that my life revolved around keeping them provided for, safe and happy.  Kinda defeats the purpose I would have thought.



That's cos deep down you're a feminist Wink

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Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:55pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:48pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.


Yep, well everyones got their roles to play and sacrifices to make, but the end result - the continuation of the species - is what we all want. 

If I was going to oppress a person or group, I wouldn't make it so that my life revolved around keeping them provided for, safe and happy.  Kinda defeats the purpose I would have thought.



That's cos deep down you're a feminist Wink


Inside every man is a little bit of feminist, and inside every woman is a little bit of masculist...if that's a word.  But no matter the intent, artificial intervention, in the form of ideologies like feminism, puts it all out of balance.  The result - hopeless girly men like the ones picured, and angry bull dykes - nobody is happy and everybody loses.

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Absolutely sprint.
I am reminded of a line froma woody allen movie where he is doing
"african american studies" at uni and proclaims "just one more semester til i become black"

feminism is, by definition, a female only domain.
Any man who tries to join the movement is fundamentally confused. As confused a woody.

You can study females all you like but you can never understand or join.
You can read every article ever written on "mangoes" but if youve never put one in your mouth, you are clueless to believe you can ever understand the subject.

Enough said  Cool
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... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:55pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:48pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.


Yep, well everyones got their roles to play and sacrifices to make, but the end result - the continuation of the species - is what we all want. 

If I was going to oppress a person or group, I wouldn't make it so that my life revolved around keeping them provided for, safe and happy.  Kinda defeats the purpose I would have thought.



That's cos deep down you're a feminist Wink


Inside every man is a little bit of feminist, and inside every woman is a little bit of masculist...if that's a word.  But no matter the intent, artificial intervention, in the form of ideologies like feminism, puts it all out of balance.

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Artificial intervention- mate you're normally correcting me for stretching the bow  Huh
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Reply #33 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm
 
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.
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Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:29pm:
mantra wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 2:22pm:
In Sprintcyclist's defense - he's stood up for me many times on this board when someone has had a go at me. Amadd is another one who's done the same.

I think his comment might have been directed more at the males who are neuter gender and could swing either way given the chance.


Men have defended women throughout history, all the while stepping on their necks to keep them down.


And that's because throughout history men have had to go to war and leave their wives at home ... only to find upon their return that someone else is in his place in the marital bed .. hence the invention of the Chastity Belt.

Men once trusted their women, but they became tired of returning from the wars to find the whole village pregnant from the Lord of the Manor, the Court Jester, or the Village Idiot, or all three.  Tongue

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... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:55pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:48pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.


Yep, well everyones got their roles to play and sacrifices to make, but the end result - the continuation of the species - is what we all want. 

If I was going to oppress a person or group, I wouldn't make it so that my life revolved around keeping them provided for, safe and happy.  Kinda defeats the purpose I would have thought.



That's cos deep down you're a feminist Wink


Inside every man is a little bit of feminist, and inside every woman is a little bit of masculist...if that's a word.  But no matter the intent, artificial intervention, in the form of ideologies like feminism, puts it all out of balance.

http://0.tqn.com/d/taoism/1/0/0/-/-/-/yinYang.gif

Artificial intervention- mate you're normally correcting me for stretching the bow  Huh


No long bow.  Men and women and how they relate is a social matter, a constant negotiation.  When two equal parties are negotiating a contract, involving the massive power of the state, the corporation and the academy can only ever lead to a gross mismatch.
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... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:28pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:07pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:55pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:48pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.


Yep, well everyones got their roles to play and sacrifices to make, but the end result - the continuation of the species - is what we all want. 

If I was going to oppress a person or group, I wouldn't make it so that my life revolved around keeping them provided for, safe and happy.  Kinda defeats the purpose I would have thought.



That's cos deep down you're a feminist Wink


Inside every man is a little bit of feminist, and inside every woman is a little bit of masculist...if that's a word.  But no matter the intent, artificial intervention, in the form of ideologies like feminism, puts it all out of balance.

http://0.tqn.com/d/taoism/1/0/0/-/-/-/yinYang.gif

Artificial intervention- mate you're normally correcting me for stretching the bow  Huh


No long bow.  Men and women and how they relate is a social matter, a constant negotiation.  When two equal parties are negotiating a contract, involving the massive power of the state, the corporation and the academy can only ever lead to a gross mismatch.

You got holes the size of heaven to earth in such a statement  Shocked
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Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.

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... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:28pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:07pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:55pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:48pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:43pm:
... wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, all for a little bit of pussy.

Sure sounds oppressive.





Sounds a lot like motherhood throughout the ages.


Yep, well everyones got their roles to play and sacrifices to make, but the end result - the continuation of the species - is what we all want. 

If I was going to oppress a person or group, I wouldn't make it so that my life revolved around keeping them provided for, safe and happy.  Kinda defeats the purpose I would have thought.



That's cos deep down you're a feminist Wink


Inside every man is a little bit of feminist, and inside every woman is a little bit of masculist...if that's a word.  But no matter the intent, artificial intervention, in the form of ideologies like feminism, puts it all out of balance.

http://0.tqn.com/d/taoism/1/0/0/-/-/-/yinYang.gif

Artificial intervention- mate you're normally correcting me for stretching the bow  Huh


No long bow.  Men and women and how they relate is a social matter, a constant negotiation.  When two equal parties are negotiating a contract, involving the massive power of the state, the corporation and the academy can only ever lead to a gross mismatch.

You got holes the size of heaven to earth in such a statement  Shocked


There aint no holes in that.

You'll note that in the below diagram, there is light (feminine) and dark (masculine) - but a ham-fisted, mightily powerful 3rd party based on inaccurate, if not outright-false theories doesn't figure anywhere.

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Reply #39 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:41pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:27pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:39pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
What losers



Do you view your wife as an equal, Sprint? Do you think that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities?

I'[m betting that if a woman you loved was discriminated against because of her sex, you'd hit the roof.



Being a man or a woman is no virtue in itself, deserving automatic preferment and so individuals are equal before the law and have the same rights and opportunities.

Individuals have the same opportunities, all else being equal  - but very often all else is not equal. Male/female differences are just one type of difference, hugely exaggerated by ideology, the ideology of thinking in groups and ignoring individual differences.



We have been posting here a long time. I have never seen you - or Sprint, for that matter - suggest that women shouldn't enjoy the same political, legal, economical and social rights as men purely for the fact that we are women. It is not about sameness. Sure, you'll find feminists with different view points, but at it's core feminism is about securing those basic rights. There is nothing 'less' about a man who identifies as a feminist, because all it means is that he believes women should have those rights.



Annie - men and women are FAR from being the same.
Women have more rights than men, any bloke that wants to 'roll over' and blab "oh, you women are downtrodden" is a total fool.

He's a loser. I have no time for him.
He underestimates women at our expense
As if women need a handup, hah !

feminist men, go take a hike.
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Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
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Surely they can set their sights higher than that.

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Surely they can set their sights higher than that.



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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:42pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:35pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.

Cool as!


enters drah, another loser

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My 2 cents

Both men and women have the same mental abilities, therefore I believe in same job same responsibilities same pay for both men and women.

But there can be no denying that men and women are wired differently both physically and mentally.

On average men can concentrate longer, women have a shorter attention span, men are more cunning than women maybe even smarter than women on average.

Men are physically stronger and more verile.

Chemically we're poles apart.

Women can handle stress much better than men and are stronger psychologically by a lot.

So women be women and the thing us men love about you women.

And men be men so that women will  enjoy what they enjoy about men.

Imo when one tries to be the other it becomes a dogs breakfast. Cheesy




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Reply #44 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:29pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:43pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.



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he prob even votes some lefty party too.


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Ajax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:22pm:
My 2 cents

Both men and women have the same mental abilities, therefore I believe in same job same responsibilities same pay for both men and women.

But there can be no denying that men and women are wired differently both physically and mentally.

On average men can concentrate longer, women have a shorter attention span, men are more cunning than women maybe even smarter than women on average.

Men are physically stronger and more verile.

Chemically we're poles apart.

Women can handle stress much better than men and are stronger psychologically by a lot.

So women be women and the thing us men love about you women.

And men be men so that women will  enjoy what they enjoy about men.

Imo when one tries to be the other it becomes a dogs breakfast. Cheesy





Climate Change is real and women know it!
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Reply #46 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:47pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:41pm:
Ajax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:22pm:
My 2 cents

Both men and women have the same mental abilities, therefore I believe in same job same responsibilities same pay for both men and women.

But there can be no denying that men and women are wired differently both physically and mentally.

On average men can concentrate longer, women have a shorter attention span, men are more cunning than women maybe even smarter than women on average.

Men are physically stronger and more verile.

Chemically we're poles apart.

Women can handle stress much better than men and are stronger psychologically by a lot.

So women be women and the thing us men love about you women.

And men be men so that women will  enjoy what they enjoy about men.

Imo when one tries to be the other it becomes a dogs breakfast. Cheesy


Climate Change is real and women know it!


You mean smart women like Joanne Nova.
http://joannenova.com.au/

Why Anthropogenic global warming is bullsh!t
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1393117220
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Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:29pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:43pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.



LOSER #1
he prob even votes some lefty party too.


IDIOT NUMBER 7,259.845!


Unlike you, I am an independent thinker. Men generally are pretty hopeless, with certain examples, such as myself, of course, as exceptions.

Give me a thoroughbred racehorse any time.


yep, badmouthing your own sex.

Loser.
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Ajax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:47pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:41pm:
Ajax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:22pm:
My 2 cents

Both men and women have the same mental abilities, therefore I believe in same job same responsibilities same pay for both men and women.

But there can be no denying that men and women are wired differently both physically and mentally.

On average men can concentrate longer, women have a shorter attention span, men are more cunning than women maybe even smarter than women on average.

Men are physically stronger and more verile.

Chemically we're poles apart.

Women can handle stress much better than men and are stronger psychologically by a lot.

So women be women and the thing us men love about you women.

And men be men so that women will  enjoy what they enjoy about men.

Imo when one tries to be the other it becomes a dogs breakfast. Cheesy


Climate Change is real and women know it!


You mean smart women like Joanne Nova.
http://joannenova.com.au/

Why Anthropogenic global warming is bullsh!t
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1393117220

That woman is a joke !
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Reply #49 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 8:11pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 8:05pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 7:29pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:43pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.



LOSER #1
he prob even votes some lefty party too.


IDIOT NUMBER 7,259.845!


Unlike you, I am an independent thinker. Men generally are pretty hopeless, with certain examples, such as myself, of course, as exceptions.

Give me a thoroughbred racehorse any time.


yep, badmouthing your own sex.

Loser.

Oh lookie: sprint found a circle party after a good hard ride  Grin
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Reply #50 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 8:19pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:43pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.



LOSER #1
he prob even votes some lefty party too.


He didn't vote but joined them as a member.
Yet couldn't vote because he's a foreigner.

So joined a party but never voted.

Then he cleared off.

Bit of an enigma is old Pete.
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Nothing enigmatic about me. Am an open book.

No, I couldn't vote in Australia, but I can here. And will be in September.

Have already joined the NZ Labour Party, a Lions Club, Grey Power and will be joining the local theatre group.

When you have experienced a bereavement, keeping busy is part of the answer. Am doing that.
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Reply #52 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 9:42pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:27pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:39pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
What losers



Do you view your wife as an equal, Sprint? Do you think that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities?

I'[m betting that if a woman you loved was discriminated against because of her sex, you'd hit the roof.



Being a man or a woman is no virtue in itself, deserving automatic preferment and so individuals are equal before the law and have the same rights and opportunities.

Individuals have the same opportunities, all else being equal  - but very often all else is not equal. Male/female differences are just one type of difference, hugely exaggerated by ideology, the ideology of thinking in groups and ignoring individual differences.



We have been posting here a long time. I have never seen you - or Sprint, for that matter - suggest that women shouldn't enjoy the same political, legal, economical and social rights as men purely for the fact that we are women. It is not about sameness. Sure, you'll find feminists with different view points, but at it's core feminism is about securing those basic rights. There is nothing 'less' about a man who identifies as a feminist, because all it means is that he believes women should have those rights.




All grownups have equal political and legal rights. Feminism like other isms, wants to focus on a select group and win privileges, disguised as rights. Human dignity is what matters, not group membership.
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Surely they can set their sights higher than that.


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Nothing enigmatic about me. Am an open book.

No, I couldn't vote in Australia, but I can here. And will be in September.

Have already joined the NZ Labour Party, a Lions Club, Grey Power and will be joining the local theatre group.

When you have experienced a bereavement, keeping busy is part of the answer. Am doing that.

How's their Green Party doing?
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Yes, those nefarious men keeping women down so that they can innovate, build, endlessly toil and ultimately die, for the right to lavish gifts and protection upon someone who's only claim to it, is that they have a vagina.

Sure sounds oppressive.



that's right...

if women didn't have vagina's they'd be stacked 10 high at the tip like old cars...  Grin
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Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:29pm:
mantra wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 2:22pm:
In Sprintcyclist's defense - he's stood up for me many times on this board when someone has had a go at me. Amadd is another one who's done the same.

I think his comment might have been directed more at the males who are neuter gender and could swing either way given the chance.


Men have defended women throughout history, all the while stepping on their necks to keep them down.


And that's because throughout history men have had to go to war and leave their wives at home ... only to find upon their return that someone else is in his place in the marital bed .. hence the invention of the Chastity Belt.

Men once trusted their women, but they became tired of returning from the wars to find the whole village pregnant from the Lord of the Manor, the Court Jester, or the Village Idiot, or all threeTongue



Grin

.........................

there were a lot of filthy Australian women who did the same thing in WWII when the American's came to Australia when the men were fighting and dying in New Guinea...

dirty slags..  Angry
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With every one of little Sprinty's posts, what becomes clearer and clearer is that he's one hell of a f-cked up unit with many unresolved issues.


and this is coming from a nincompoop who thinks he's a sheep...  Roll Eyes

well... im betting you have Velcro gloves at least...
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Nothing enigmatic about me. Am an open book.

No, I couldn't vote in Australia, but I can here. And will be in September.

Have already joined the NZ Labour Party, a Lions Club, Grey Power and will be joining the local theatre group.

When you have experienced a bereavement, keeping busy is part of the answer. Am doing that.


Keeping busy is a good idea.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:41pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:27pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:39pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
What losers



Do you view your wife as an equal, Sprint? Do you think that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities?

I'[m betting that if a woman you loved was discriminated against because of her sex, you'd hit the roof.



Being a man or a woman is no virtue in itself, deserving automatic preferment and so individuals are equal before the law and have the same rights and opportunities.

Individuals have the same opportunities, all else being equal  - but very often all else is not equal. Male/female differences are just one type of difference, hugely exaggerated by ideology, the ideology of thinking in groups and ignoring individual differences.



We have been posting here a long time. I have never seen you - or Sprint, for that matter - suggest that women shouldn't enjoy the same political, legal, economical and social rights as men purely for the fact that we are women. It is not about sameness. Sure, you'll find feminists with different view points, but at it's core feminism is about securing those basic rights. There is nothing 'less' about a man who identifies as a feminist, because all it means is that he believes women should have those rights.



Annie - men and women are FAR from being the same.
Women have more rights than men, any bloke that wants to 'roll over' and blab "oh, you women are downtrodden" is a total fool.

He's a loser. I have no time for him.
He underestimates women at our expense
As if women need a handup, hah !

feminist men, go take a hike.



I acknowledged that it's not about same-ness.

A lot of women in Australia are pretty lucky. I personally don't feel like I am discriminated against in any part of my life. I don't need a hand up, but I'm not kidding myself that it is the same for all women here, let alone throughout the world.

We have a shameful domestic violence rate in Australia, for one thing. Do you know how many women are killed by their partners a week? That is a feminist issue.

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Soren wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 9:42pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:27pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:39pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:53am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 12:23am:
What losers



Do you view your wife as an equal, Sprint? Do you think that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities?

I'[m betting that if a woman you loved was discriminated against because of her sex, you'd hit the roof.



Being a man or a woman is no virtue in itself, deserving automatic preferment and so individuals are equal before the law and have the same rights and opportunities.

Individuals have the same opportunities, all else being equal  - but very often all else is not equal. Male/female differences are just one type of difference, hugely exaggerated by ideology, the ideology of thinking in groups and ignoring individual differences.



We have been posting here a long time. I have never seen you - or Sprint, for that matter - suggest that women shouldn't enjoy the same political, legal, economical and social rights as men purely for the fact that we are women. It is not about sameness. Sure, you'll find feminists with different view points, but at it's core feminism is about securing those basic rights. There is nothing 'less' about a man who identifies as a feminist, because all it means is that he believes women should have those rights.




All grownups have equal political and legal rights. Feminism like other isms, wants to focus on a select group and win privileges, disguised as rights. Human dignity is what matters, not group membership.


Yes. Feminism is a broad ideology, but human dignity is a central theme, wouldn't you agree? Most of early feminisms goals have been accomplished in the west (through the hard work of feminists) and our society is better for it.
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Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 8:41am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 6:41pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:27pm:
We have been posting here a long time. I have never seen you - or Sprint, for that matter - suggest that women shouldn't enjoy the same political, legal, economical and social rights as men purely for the fact that we are women. It is not about sameness. Sure, you'll find feminists with different view points, but at it's core feminism is about securing those basic rights. There is nothing 'less' about a man who identifies as a feminist, because all it means is that he believes women should have those rights.



Annie - men and women are FAR from being the same.
Women have more rights than men, any bloke that wants to 'roll over' and blab "oh, you women are downtrodden" is a total fool.

He's a loser. I have no time for him.
He underestimates women at our expense
As if women need a handup, hah !

feminist men, go take a hike.



I acknowledged that it's not about same-ness.

A lot of women in Australia are pretty lucky. I personally don't feel like I am discriminated against in any part of my life. I don't need a hand up, but I'm not kidding myself that it is the same for all women here, let alone throughout the world.

We have a shameful domestic violence rate in Australia, for one thing. Do you know how many women are killed by their partners a week? That is a feminist issue.




I believe it is about 4 - 6 women get killed per week in a domestic violent event.

Do you know the occurance of domestic violence is about 50/50 offenders men and women.

Only, women get ALL the sympathy.
In a split up women get by far the best of any deal.

we are discriminated agaisnt heavily.

the last thng we need is some femininst nancy male saying  how bad us men are and how great women are.
What tripe, and he is helping noone.
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Reply #62 - Apr 14th, 2014 at 12:58pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 12:32pm:
I believe it is about 4 - 6 women get killed per week in a domestic violent event.


This sounds very high for Australia. I don't think it is that high.



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Only, women get ALL the sympathy.
In a split up women get by far the best of any deal.

we are discriminated agaisnt heavily.

the last thng we need is some femininst nancy male saying  how bad us men are and how great women are.
What tripe, and he is helping noone.


True. The perception that women are more often the victims of violence is due to 1. Women more often reporting the violence, and 2. feminist lobby groups making the most noise on this being the case.

Academia is replete with 'studies' into domestic violence, and they only ever interview women or look at it from a woman's (or should I say feminist's) perspective. There are no journals, no courses, no curriculums focussing on violence and abuse direct toward men by women. So, if they're only going to look at it from one perspective, then obviously that is the perspective everyone will know about.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 12:32pm:
I believe it is about 4 - 6 women get killed per week in a domestic violent event.Do you know the occurance of domestic violence is about 50/50 offenders men and women.Only, women get ALL the sympathy.In a split up women get by far the best of any deal.we are discriminated agaisnt heavily.the last thng we need is some femininst nancy male saying  how bad us men are and how great women are.What tripe, and he is helping noone.


I don't deny that domestic violence has both male and female victims, but how many men do you think die at the hands of their female partners a week as opposed to the other way around?

And you overestimate the number of women who are killed on a weekly basis by their partners. Not four or five - just one, on average. That's one too many, I'm sure you'd agree. Or do you not care because you've got some f.cked up idea that acknowledging how outrageous that is in today's Australia somehow loses you points in your imaginary war between the sexes?
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Reply #64 - Apr 14th, 2014 at 1:19pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 12:58pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 12:32pm:
I believe it is about 4 - 6 women get killed per week in a domestic violent event.


This sounds very high for Australia. I don't think it is that high.



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Do you know the occurance of domestic violence is about 50/50 offenders men and women.

Only, women get ALL the sympathy.
In a split up women get by far the best of any deal.

we are discriminated agaisnt heavily.

the last thng we need is some femininst nancy male saying  how bad us men are and how great women are.
What tripe, and he is helping noone.


True. The perception that women are more often the victims of violence is due to 1. Women more often reporting the violence, and 2. feminist lobby groups making the most noise on this being the case.

Academia is replete with 'studies' into domestic violence, and they only ever interview women or look at it from a woman's (or should I say feminist's) perspective. There are no journals, no courses, no curriculums focussing on violence and abuse direct toward men by women. So, if they're only going to look at it from one perspective, then obviously that is the perspective everyone will know about.


Everybody deserves to feel safe in their relationship. Domestic violence is under reported by both male and female victims.

I agree that our society has a long way to go to make sure men aren't discriminated against too - family law and custody issues spring immediately to mind, but you can't seriously suggest that domestic violence is as much a threat to men as women. It's like rape, which is equally awful no matter the sex of the victim, but those victims are overwhelmingly female - even when you consider male victims' general hesitation in going public.
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I wonder how many of these fatalities could be avoided if a man could check his wife without forfeiting (at least) half of everything he owns, and probably his freedom too.



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Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 1:13pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 12:32pm:
I believe it is about 4 - 6 women get killed per week in a domestic violent event.Do you know the occurance of domestic violence is about 50/50 offenders men and women.Only, women get ALL the sympathy.In a split up women get by far the best of any deal.we are discriminated agaisnt heavily.the last thng we need is some femininst nancy male saying  how bad us men are and how great women are.What tripe, and he is helping noone.


I don't deny that domestic violence has both male and female victims, but how many men do you think die at the hands of their female partners a week as opposed to the other way around?

And you overestimate the number of women who are killed on a weekly basis by their partners. Not four or five - just one, on average. That's one too many, I'm sure you'd agree. Or do you not care because you've got some f.cked up idea that acknowledging how outrageous that is in today's Australia somehow loses you points in your imaginary war between the sexes?



I do agree, one is one too many.
man are subjected to verbal abuse MUCH more often.
In public places husbands are often ridiculed.
It is almost expected, very accepted.
A man smacking his wife is unacceptable.
A woman belittling her husband should be also unacceptable.

No, this is not ....excuse for a physical retaliation.
Women do use their advantages over men in the same way men do over women.

2 wrongs do not make a right.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 7:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 9:04pm:
Nothing enigmatic about me. Am an open book.

No, I couldn't vote in Australia, but I can here. And will be in September.

Have already joined the NZ Labour Party, a Lions Club, Grey Power and will be joining the local theatre group.

When you have experienced a bereavement, keeping busy is part of the answer. Am doing that.


Keeping busy is a good idea.
Good luck, hope to meet you at a bridge club.


Ahh, no. Would rather join a knitting circle or do crochet.

Poker is more my game
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BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 2:34am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 9:04pm:
Nothing enigmatic about me. Am an open book.

No, I couldn't vote in Australia, but I can here. And will be in September.

Have already joined the NZ Labour Party, a Lions Club, Grey Power and will be joining the local theatre group.

When you have experienced a bereavement, keeping busy is part of the answer. Am doing that.

How's their Green Party doing?


Not too badly. Has a close relationship with NZ Labour, though not sitting in each other's pockets.

I'm predicting a close election in September, with a good chance NZ First will hold the balance of power.

I suspect Winston Peters will stay aloof and not join any coalition. He is a very cunning cove.

We could well be headed for a minority government. Interesting times.
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Reply #69 - Apr 18th, 2014 at 10:03pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:15pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.


Speak for yourself.


I usually do. Not belittling men, simply pointing out we do not represent the epitome of human development.
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simply pointing out we do not represent the epitome of human development.


Hmm OK.   Huh

In what way are women (I assume you mean all women) more "developed" humans?

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Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 1:13pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 14th, 2014 at 12:32pm:
I believe it is about 4 - 6 women get killed per week in a domestic violent event.Do you know the occurance of domestic violence is about 50/50 offenders men and women.Only, women get ALL the sympathy.In a split up women get by far the best of any deal.we are discriminated agaisnt heavily.the last thng we need is some femininst nancy male saying  how bad us men are and how great women are.What tripe, and he is helping noone.


I don't deny that domestic violence has both male and female victims, but how many men do you think die at the hands of their female partners a week as opposed to the other way around?

And you overestimate the number of women who are killed on a weekly basis by their partners. Not four or five - just one, on average.


It could be more if you include part of the suicide statistics, in other words, suicide can be a consequence of domestic violence. Deaths resulting from suicide are about double that of deaths from road accidents, and the true level is probably higher, because it's not always clear whether or not a death due to misadventure is due to suicide.

Of course, the suicide rate has always been higher for men, and the highest rates are 80+.

It's complicated though. Probably more men die as a result of domestic violence that they have perpetrated, when the female partner suddenly snaps.

It's easy to draw incorrect conclusions from statistics.
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Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 18th, 2014 at 10:03pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:15pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.


Speak for yourself.


I usually do. Not belittling men, simply pointing out we do not represent the epitome of human development.

Which is a classic feminist mans comment.

men hate you, women are not attracted to a wimp.
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Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 18th, 2014 at 10:03pm:
simply pointing out we do not represent the epitome of human development.


Hmm OK.   Huh

In what way are women (I assume you mean all women) more "developed" humans?


I don't think that was implied. Development is a process... women don't just get born developed!
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Reply #74 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 11:42am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 10:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 18th, 2014 at 10:03pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 10:15pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 13th, 2014 at 5:13pm:
I have never considered women should strive to be equal with men.

Surely they can set their sights higher than that.


Speak for yourself.


I usually do. Not belittling men, simply pointing out we do not represent the epitome of human development.

Which is a classic feminist mans comment.

men hate you, women are not attracted to a wimp.

Ever heard of a gentleman and a scholar!???????!  Shocked
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 10:49am:
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Which is a classic feminist mans comment.



Women are more developed because they have a womb. I'm sure one day artificial sperm will be developed, although it's unlikely to replace the real thing.

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Most women like chivalrous men, but they have to earn that chivalry. Some can't. If we were given the choice between a respectful male and a disrespectful one - then only a few self deprecating women would choose the latter.

It's true about the attraction though - generally I think females are more inclined to move towards those males who aren't afraid to speak their mind or act on it - within reason of course.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 10:49am:
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Which is a classic feminist mans comment.



Women are more developed because they have a womb. I'm sure one day artificial sperm will be developed, although it's unlikely to replace the real thing.


A womb is worthless without seed for it to incubate, and seed is worthless without a womb to incubate it.  Not only can I not see why artificial sperm would be any easier or harder to develop than an artificial womb, I can't see why anyone would want to develop either.

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mantra wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 12:25pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 10:49am:
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Which is a classic feminist mans comment.



Women are more developed because they have a womb. I'm sure one day artificial sperm will be developed, although it's unlikely to replace the real thing.

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Most women like chivalrous men, but they have to earn that chivalry. Some can't. If we were given the choice between a respectful male and a disrespectful one - then only a few self deprecating women would choose the latter.

It's true about the attraction though - generally I think females are more inclined to move towards those males who aren't afraid to speak their mind or act on it - within reason of course.

It's a fine line between pleasure and pain as the great Chrissie Amphlett said!

Men who speak their mind get looked after, for sure!! Dad scares the other one into submission and mummy pretends she is blind and goes shopping for new curtains and bed sheets and endless amounts of little knick knacks to forget who she actually married but she's got a nice big boring and cold house but.....

It's a flaming picnic this world! It's a wonder we're not all drinking metho...

It's surely difficult for women in this world but men get treated like f'n shite too ya know! Where are the female feminists is the question?? Women who blame men for everything aren't even women: in my opinion a feminist is a real woman!

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Um, yeh, so I suppose I conclude that you can't have a feminist man Okeley dokeley then  Cheesy
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I'm no Feminist male, but I like to think I'm a reasonably sane one. I was a single dad with two boys and a girl so the questions around modern woman were of intense interest to me. I took the path of raising all three to think for themselves, I taught them to respect everyone that earned that. I gave my daughter a variety of role models of every ilk, and allowed, no, encouraged her to choose who she wanted to be, and not to ape any given style. We all as a family had many long discussions of this and many other important questions as they grew up and I always listened to them. Peer pressure was an important point, and I demonstrated to them how it was being used and abused in the Feminist approach, as well as by others.
Now my girl is a successful accountant and largely ignores the Femnazi's, she is confident and assertive and needs no-one to tell her about repression or privilege, she just does as she thinks best. She's in a happy relationship and laughs if anyone talks about a "glass ceiling", she reckons that's a mirage and has every intention of proving it too.
I think the Fems seem to think that to be equal they have to be manly, and that femininity is some sort of disease.
B/S, all I can say is..Viv la difference! Wink
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 10:49am:
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I usually do. Not belittling men, simply pointing out we do not represent the epitome of human development.


Which is a classic feminist mans comment.



Women are more developed because they have a womb. I'm sure one day artificial sperm will be developed, although it's unlikely to replace the real thing.

Quote:
men hate you, women are not attracted to a wimp.


Most women like chivalrous men, but they have to earn that chivalry. Some can't. If we were given the choice between a respectful male and a disrespectful one - then only a few self deprecating women would choose the latter.

It's true about the attraction though - generally I think females are more inclined to move towards those males who aren't afraid to speak their mind or act on it - within reason of course.


I hear what you are saying mantra. Yes, us men are just better.
We have made incubators for decades that do a 'wombs' job.

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