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Reply #90 - Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:38pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I turn 65 soon, and i am not entitled to receive a pension. I have saved all my life, and apparently too much, I can live off of the money and Super that I have saved over the years. I know people who have blown all of their money, or at least a lot of it, and they get $20,000 a year from the taxpayer, and I get bigger all. Both sides do this, Labor and the Coalition. Why is this? Where is the incentive to save, where is the incentive to be prudent and wise with your money? Why do we reward those who waste their money? bugger I have completely lost it with all sides of politics in this country.

You could always swap your super money for their $20,000 if it will make you feel better. Don't tell me you want to be greedy and have both Roll Eyes

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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #92 - Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:01pm

I work hard and pay taxes. I don't see why these bludgers get $500 per fortnight for doing nothing. I work hard for my wages so where's my extra spending money from the government?

When I applied for the dole I was so pissed when they told me "I was earning too much". At least I've got a job, unlike those lazy c-nts. I should be at the front of the queue for handouts like the dole.

F-cking rip off governments.

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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #93 - Mar 15^th, 2014 at 9:39pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:01pm:

I work hard and pay taxes. I don't see why these bludgers get $500 per fortnight for doing nothing. I work hard for my wages so where's my extra spending money from the government?

When I applied for the dole I was so pissed when they told me "I was earning too much". At least I've got a job, unlike those lazy c-nts. I should be at the front of the queue for handouts like the dole.

F-cking rip off governments.

Damn straight! I'll head down there Monday and try to get my share, if they treat me as badly as they have you, I'll roll around on the floor kicking and screaming, pounding my fists on the floor until they know exactly how badly I've been done by.

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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #94 - Mar 15^th, 2014 at 10:17pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:38pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I turn 65 soon, and i am not entitled to receive a pension. I have saved all my life, and apparently too much, I can live off of the money and Super that I have saved over the years. I know people who have blown all of their money, or at least a lot of it, and they get $20,000 a year from the taxpayer, and I get bigger all. Both sides do this, Labor and the Coalition. Why is this? Where is the incentive to save, where is the incentive to be prudent and wise with your money? Why do we reward those who waste their money? bugger I have completely lost it with all sides of politics in this country.

You could always swap your super money for their $20,000 if it will make you feel better. Don't tell me you want to be greedy and have both Roll Eyes

Go the whole hog, and take the $13k p/a the unemployed get.

Go on! There's a challenge for ya.

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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #95 - Mar 15^th, 2014 at 10:30pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 4:38pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I turn 65 soon, and i am not entitled to receive a pension. I have saved all my life, and apparently too much, I can live off of the money and Super that I have saved over the years. I know people who have blown all of their money, or at least a lot of it, and they get $20,000 a year from the taxpayer, and I get bigger all. Both sides do this, Labor and the Coalition. Why is this? Where is the incentive to save, where is the incentive to be prudent and wise with your money? Why do we reward those who waste their money? bugger I have completely lost it with all sides of politics in this country.

You could always swap your super money for their $20,000 if it will make you feel better. Don't tell me you want to be greedy and have both Roll Eyes

Mate it's good to see you have done the right thing I think it is complete bs paying pensions to people who wasted their lives they just the same as any other dole bludger

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95276 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why does the government reward bludgers? Reply #96 - Mar 15^th, 2014 at 10:35pm Anyone who can get even one dollar out of Centerlink is a genius. They have 1001 reasons not to pay people.
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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #97 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 5:53pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I turn 65 soon, and i am not entitled to receive a pension. I have saved all my life, and apparently too much, I can live off of the money and Super that I have saved over the years. I know people who have blown all of their money, or at least a lot of it, and they get $20,000 a year from the taxpayer, and I get bigger all. Both sides do this, Labor and the Coalition. Why is this? Where is the incentive to save, where is the incentive to be prudent and wise with your money? Why do we reward those who waste their money? bugger I have completely lost it with all sides of politics in this country.

what BS some people claim.

One needs to have around $1million in assets (not including value of the family home) to not qualify for any Aged Pension.

The million I earned in 45 years was needed to pay for luxuries like: paying taxes, food, rent/mortgage, transport, clothes, raising kids, etc. Yep, what a bludger I must be to have spent my earning on such things - i should have banked it all and ate at soup kitchens!!!!

If TheGreenLight has so much assets that he doesn't qualify for any aged pension I feel sorry for the poor hard done by prick that begrudges a low income worked $20k per year to people who worked for minimum wage.

TheGreenLight forgets that when we entered the workforce 45+ years ago, part of our taxes were deigned to give us a pension. Now that we have super, that has changed, but super has not been running long enough to replace that. But it will be another 20 years before super replaces the OAP.

I wish I earned so much in my 45 years that I could accumulate over $1million in assets (excluding the value of my home) and then cry POOR.

BS-artists like this sicken me!!!!

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Why does the government reward bludgers? Reply #98 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 7:37pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 10:35pm: Anyone who can get even one dollar out of Centerlink is a genius. They have 1001 reasons not to pay people. I gave up Bobby. I tried after I was made redundant but could see it was a total lost cause Tighter than a camel's ass in a sandstorm.
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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #99 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 9:56pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 10:35pm:

Anyone who can get even one dollar out of Centerlink is a genius.

They have 1001 reasons not to pay people.

I gave up Bobby.

I tried after I was made redundant but could see it was a total lost cause

Tighter than a camel's ass in a sandstorm.

So what is TheGreenLight complaining about? pople being clever than him?

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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #100 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 10:01pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 10:35pm:

Anyone who can get even one dollar out of Centerlink is a genius.

They have 1001 reasons not to pay people.

I gave up Bobby.

I tried after I was made redundant but could see it was a total lost cause

Tighter than a camel's ass in a sandstorm.

True - the same happened to me.

It's a waste of time going there.
Their sole goal is not to pay people & look for any excuse.

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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #101 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 11:12pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 9:39pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 15^th, 2014 at 6:01pm:

I work hard and pay taxes. I don't see why these bludgers get $500 per fortnight for doing nothing. I work hard for my wages so where's my extra spending money from the government?

When I applied for the dole I was so pissed when they told me "I was earning too much". At least I've got a job, unlike those lazy c-nts. I should be at the front of the queue for handouts like the dole.

F-cking rip off governments.

Damn straight! I'll head down there Monday and try to get my share, if they treat me as badly as they have you, I'll roll around on the floor kicking and screaming, pounding my fists on the floor until they know exactly how badly I've been done by.

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Re: Why does the government reward bludgers?
Reply #102 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 8:10pm

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The week ends with the Abbott government borrowing a further $700 million today, which brings the total of gross borrowing since 9 September 2013 to $61.15 billion.

$61.15 billion of bond and T-Notes that have been issued in just over six months as the government funds the budget deficit, covers maturing bonds and T-Notes and prepares to fund a range of its policy expenditure items.

As I have noted at nausium on the issue of government debt over recent years, the Australian government's debt level remains trivial, chicken feed, small beer and the campaign of the Coalition Parties to suggest otherwise was factually flawed and it still is.

Even in government, the Coalition bemoan the level of debt and pretend it is a major factor threatening to undermine Australian sovereign risk or some similar nonsense.

The credit ratings agencies, all which rank Australia triple-A with a stable outlook and have since 2011, suggest the level of government is low. So do foreign investors who own close to three-quarters of the government bond market and a huge proportion of the stocks listed on the ASX as well as an increasingly large holding of property. They do so comfortable in the knowledge that a government debt problem that would hurt the Australian dollar or bond yields is very unlikely.

The cumulative effect of the new borrowing means that gross government debt now stands at $310.1 billion, some $36 billion higher than when Mr Abbott convincingly won the 2013 election.

It was always obvious the promise to stop the borrowing and repay Labor's debt were false. The facts confirm this.

http://thekouk.com/blog/it-s-now-61-15-billion-of-gross-borrowing-by-the-abbott-...

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80213 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Why does the government reward bludgers? Reply #103 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 12:45am Great shot, George! Your truth gun is very finely tuned and you handle it well..
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Reply #104 - Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 1:31am

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 8:10pm:

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The week ends with the Abbott government borrowing a further $700 million today, which brings the total of gross borrowing since 9 September 2013 to $61.15 billion.

$61.15 billion of bond and T-Notes that have been issued in just over six months as the government funds the budget deficit, covers maturing bonds and T-Notes and prepares to fund a range of its policy expenditure items.

As I have noted at nausium on the issue of government debt over recent years, the Australian government's debt level remains trivial, chicken feed, small beer and the campaign of the Coalition Parties to suggest otherwise was factually flawed and it still is.

Even in government, the Coalition bemoan the level of debt and pretend it is a major factor threatening to undermine Australian sovereign risk or some similar nonsense.

The credit ratings agencies, all which rank Australia triple-A with a stable outlook and have since 2011, suggest the level of government is low. So do foreign investors who own close to three-quarters of the government bond market and a huge proportion of the stocks listed on the ASX as well as an increasingly large holding of property. They do so comfortable in the knowledge that a government debt problem that would hurt the Australian dollar or bond yields is very unlikely.

The cumulative effect of the new borrowing means that gross government debt now stands at $310.1 billion, some $36 billion higher than when Mr Abbott convincingly won the 2013 election.

It was always obvious the promise to stop the borrowing and repay Labor's debt were false. The facts confirm this.

http://thekouk.com/blog/it-s-now-61-15-billion-of-gross-borrowing-by-the-abbott-...

You mean they have upped 7 years of Labor debt, financing Australia through the GFC, which has been over for years according to the Libs, by 10% in 6 months?!

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