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Congratulations Denmark. No more halal. (Read 31973 times)
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Re: Congratulations Denmark. No more halal.
Reply #30 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:31pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:23pm:
Stratos wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:05pm:
So I guess that's a no.


It’s a very big no.

FDs nos are starting to rival Y’s yesses.


The hypocrisy of Muslims and their "let the market decide" justification:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376746834/183#183

The Australian Muslim community defrauding the government by diverting funds that should have gone to educating their own children:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1386760635

The Australian Muslim community using the halal stickers to extort huge amounts of money from businesses:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1378852212/25#25
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Re: Congratulations Denmark. No more halal.
Reply #31 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
The hypocrisy of Muslims and their "let the market decide" justification:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376746834/183#183


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freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
The Australian Muslim community defrauding the government by diverting funds that should have gone to educating their own children:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1386760635


not related to halal

freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
The Australian Muslim community using the halal stickers to extort huge amounts of money from businesses:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1378852212/25#25


Oh what's this at the bottom?

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The scandal has stopped most of Queensland's Halal meat exports to Indonesia, as angry abattoir operators boycott the more expensive Halal certifiers endorsed by the MUI.


interesting.  So when it wasn't financially viable they decided not to.  That isn't extortion Freediver, as sorely as you wish it was.
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Re: Congratulations Denmark. No more halal.
Reply #32 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:21pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
The Australian Muslim community using the halal stickers to extort huge amounts of money from businesses:


The MUI, which is who you are referring to,are not "the Australian muslim community" - its Indonesian.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Congratulations Denmark. No more halal.
Reply #33 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:26pm
 
wally1 wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:27pm:
Stratos wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 1:41pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:46pm:
Halal slaughter in Australia seems to be more about extorting as much money as possible from business


Extorting?  If it wasn't profitable for producers to make halal goods then the majority wouldn't.  By not providing halal goods, you are cutting yourself out of a massive chunk of the global market, and THAT is why it is in their best interests to do so.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 11:40am:
It's pathetic that there's just one country that has the decency to stop these barbaric practices.


Herbert, do you also agree with  them banning kosher practices too as part of their new laws?


Herbert only pretends that he wants kosher meat also banned.

If the article didn't have the word Muslim or halal in it he wouldn't of posted the report.


Judaism IS the only one of the two that can demonstrate it is a religion, and thus kosher meats for religious purpose.

Islam does not qualify as a religion since it is a 7th century born ANTI-religion cult that follows Muhammad alone, through a specifically Judaism and Christianity scripture-contrary, pre-Muhammad history-devoid, archaeology-absent, reality-rejecting, geographically-impossible so-called "tradition", that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history, yet was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record that preceded the 5th century AD.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1388067196

Let alone that the halal meat industry is controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood and provides an income stream for financing international terrorism.
https://www.google.com/#q=%22halal%22+finance+terrorism+muslim+brotherhood
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Re: Congratulations Denmark. No more halal.
Reply #34 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:39pm
 
Pete Waldo wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:26pm:
Judaism IS the only one of the two that can demonstrate it is a religion, and thus kosher meats for religious purpose.


Find me one definition of the word "religion" that doesn't cover Islam.
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #35 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:50pm
 
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So when it wasn't financially viable they decided not to.  That isn't extortion Freediver, as sorely as you wish it was.


Sorry. How about "money grubbing whores"? Is that better?
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Reply #36 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:50pm:
Sorry. How about "money grubbing whores"? Is that better?


The word capitalist comes to mind.  I'm not saying I agree with the practice, but no more so than any niche market that people try to make a profit from.
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Reply #37 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
It goes against the principles of free market capitalism.

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I'm not saying I agree with the practice,


Of course not. You are merely offering endless excuses for it.
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Reply #38 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:02pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
It goes against the principles of free market capitalism.


How?

freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
Of course not. You are merely offering endless excuses for it.


I really don't care.  I also don't know why so many people, yourself included, seem to, seeing as increasingly feeble and tangentially related reasons are the best you can come up with.
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #39 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
It goes against the principles of free market capitalism.


So far against market capitalism that non-Muslim food producers in regional Australia are doing whatever it takes to get their products certified for sale in the supermarkets of Indonesia and Malaysia.

Maybe they’re just doing it for Allah.
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Reply #40 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:22pm
 
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How?


How do you think? The Indonesian government is charging private businesses huge sums of money just to participate in the market. Let me guess - because there is money changing hands you think it must be capitalism?

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I really don't care.


Do you always offer endless excuses for something you do not care about and do not understand?

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I also don't know why so many people, yourself included, seem to, seeing as increasingly feeble and tangentially related reasons are the best you can come up with.


How about when the money ends up in the hands of terrorists and people start dying?

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So far against market capitalism that non-Muslim food producers in regional Australia are doing whatever it takes to get their products certified for sale in Muslim countries.


Yes Karnal. It is completely at odds with the principles of free market capitalism. Do you also have trouble comprehending why?
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Re: Congratulations Denmark. No more halal.
Reply #41 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:27pm
 
Stratos wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:39pm:
Pete Waldo wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 3:26pm:
Judaism IS the only one of the two that can demonstrate it is a religion, and thus kosher meats for religious purpose.


Find me one definition of the word "religion" that doesn't cover Islam.




Dictionary;
religion = =
1 the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.        a particular system of faith and worship.
2 a pursuit or interest followed with devotion.




Stratos,

If ISLAM is a bona fide religion, why do its adherents seem more concerned with what is happening in the temporal world, and what is happening in the temporal world, as it relates to their own personal interests ?  [e.g. war booty]

Moslems have made violent political activism [in the name of Allah], the predominant way in which moslems demonstrate the 'worship' of their deity;


IMAGE...
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Sydney CBD, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems, demanding the right to exercise their 'religious freedom'.
Moslems, demanding the right to 'practise their religion' [and seeking to threaten local non-moslems, with their violent devotion and worship of the moslem deity - AS A RELIGIOUS DEVOTION].
Moslems, proclaiming their 'religious' right to murder persons [who are not moslems, and] who 'offend' moslems, by refusing to believe as they [moslems] believe - AS A RELIGIOUS DEVOTION.






Religion, is commonly understood [within Western culture] to be the personal worship of a personal God.

ISLAM is more akin to religious political fascism, imo,
....rather than the of traditional religious concept of personal devotion to a personal God.


IMO, ISLAM is definitely a philosophy which promotes violent 'religious' fascism.


Google;
similarity between islam and nazism



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Congratulations Denmark. No more halal.
Reply #42 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:22pm:
Let me guess - because there is money changing hands you think it must be capitalism?


There is a specialised market that requires oversight from a particular group (and yes, this definitely does) and someone decided to make money out of it.  I see no difference to the fact you can effectively buy a heart smart logo.

freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:22pm:
Do you always offer endless excuses for something you do not care about and do not understand?


Sometimes.  What do you think I don't understand out of curiosity? 

freediver wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:22pm:
How about when the money ends up in the hands of terrorists and people start dying?


Do you have evidence of this?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #43 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:34pm
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:27pm:
1 the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods


Describes Islam

Yadda wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:27pm:
a particular system of faith and worship.


Also describes Islam

Yadda wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:27pm:
2 a pursuit or interest followed with devotion.


And islam again.

Three points against yourself before you even begin Yadda.

Also Yadda, I believe I have shown you multiple times the numerous Australian leaders who condemned the actions of the protest you are talking about.  I can find them again if you like, but you are of course too busy trying to misrepresent Islam to care about the truth remotely.

But i will say this, if the best you can repeatedly come up with is a group of Australian Muslims denounced by their own leadership from two years ago, then you must be getting desperate.
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
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Re: Congratulations Denmark. No more halal.
Reply #44 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 10:35pm
 
I certainly do have trouble comprehending, FD. No one in Indonesia and Malaysia is forcing consumers to buy halal food. In my suburb, the local Thai resturant is even advertising halal - presumably to do more business.

How are Australian food producers and Thai resturants selling halal food to Muslim.customers anti-capitalist?

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