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Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:22am
 
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Australia Startled by Chinese Naval Excursion

Time to consider how best to respond to muscle flexing by the Chinese navy in Australia’s backyard.


Last Thursday, many Australian viewers switched their televisions over to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) in an attempt to escape from the media frenzy surrounding the release of Australian citizen Schapelle Corby from prison in Indonesia. They found the national broadcaster’s Lateline program reporting on another, far more significant story emanating from their near north.

On February 1, the Chinese navy (PLAN) sent a taskforce of three warships from Hainan in southern China through the Sunda Strait in Indonesia, along the south coast of Java and past Christmas Island into the Indian Ocean. Two Chinese destroyers accompanied an advanced 20,000-ton amphibious ship, capable of carrying hundreds of marines, and conducted a series of combat simulations before heading north through the Lombok and Makassar Straits and into the Pacific.

The ABC noted that while conducted wholly in international waters, this was the first time the Chinese have carried out military exercises so close to Australia’s northern maritime border. The Lateline report then turned to security analyst Rory Medcalf, who outlined that China is sending a clear and deliberate signal to the U.S. and to the region.

“The Chinese are demonstrating that they have the intention and capability of operating in Australia’s north-western approaches and in the Indian Ocean and this is really quite a significant threshold moment.”

For those not in the business of closely watching strategic developments, this comes as a rude reminder to that the dawning of the Asian Century is not all roses; opportunities for increased prosperity come with a growing and uncomfortable strategic uncertainty.

So, what is to be done?

The default response for Australian policymakers is to double down on the alliance with the United States, which remains the cornerstone of Australian foreign and security strategy. This should be supported, but Australia needs to examine ways to broaden the basis of its strategy. As Michael Wesley argues, complacency is the enemy; the U.S. alliance should be reconceived as a “major supporting beam,” buttressed by efforts to better develop other “beams.”

Significantly upgrading Australia’s relationship with Indonesia offers a compelling proposition—but just don’t call it an alliance!

Australia-Indonesia relations are currently recovering from the low of the Snowden leaks as well as seemingly perennial tensions on asylum seekers and the inevitable amplification of the Indonesian election season. However, this loud and clear signal from the Chinese navy should put things in perspective.

Cooperation codified through the Lombok Treaty (2006) and its additions have proved successful in responding to threats from non-state actors. The same cannot be said for co-operation in response to higher-level threats. There are exchanges and joint exercises in the defense sphere, and in 2010 Canberra and Jakarta declared a “strategic partnership”—but this process is too slow and nowhere near its potential, without even mentioning the economic or diplomatic shortfall in our cooperation.

A much-enhanced bilateral partnership in all of these spheres would go a long way to achieving a promising long-term goal: a Southeast Asian “power core.” Australia and Indonesia not only have complementary strengths, but the amplification provided by this combination of power could make the region more resistant to external pressure and coercion.

This is particularly important in building resilience, or “ballast,” as Northeast Asia becomes less stable, more competitive and the level of risk is rising. The creation of this power core between arguably the two strongest military and economic powers in Southeast Asia would use the joint strength of a greatly enhanced bilateral partnership to foster stability, deterrence and ultimately a greater degree of independence for all states in Southeast Asia.

The creation of a centripetal force, or strategic gravity, by Australia and Indonesia could potentially draw in others in Southeast Asia, such as Singapore, and then potentially ASEAN as a whole to stand firm in the face of external challenges to the open, liberal trading order—particularly in the maritime domain.

For the United States, this would only increase the value of Australia and others in Southeast Asia as allies and partners. Similarly, Australia’s increasingly close alliance with the U.S. is an asset to all in Southeast Asia. A concerted effort by the U.S. to help speed the realization of such a Southeast Asian power core may seem to some in Washington like herding cats, yet such efforts are critical in forging and thickening links between the spokes of the Asian regional web of alliances of which the U.S. has long been the hub. This enhancement of strategic depth for all three countries, and potentially Southeast Asia as a whole, could help steady Washington in its rebalancing.

Moreover, Indonesia and Australia may be critical in crafting to a robust response to China’s anti-access strategy; turning it on its head by providing sites for the deployment of land-based anti-ship missiles at key maritime choke points in times of crisis in the Strait of Malacca, the Sunda and Lombok straits and the Java Sea Routes.


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Reply #1 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:23am
 
I remenber many users telling me that, the chinese would never pose a threat to the chinese nor would we even apare on their rader.. well......

Guess Australia isnt so islolated

So, what is to be done about the chinese flexing  thire muscle in Australia’s backyard?

One answer is to double down on the alliance with the United States, but all thats doing is increasing our dependentce on a foreign power(which as i have proven in past topics are offten unreliable), and should never be the cornerstone of Australian foreign and security strategy, because of it.

significantly upgrading Australia’s relationship with Indonesia would help increasing usefully and smart but personlly the only way we can respond is with the either the expandion of our navel or create a coastal Missile defense systems to deter unfrendly forgen powers for flexing  thire muscle in Australia’s backyard.
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Reply #2 - Mar 4th, 2014 at 2:25pm
 
I couldn't see Indonesia helping us. Infact, China could simply be reminding us of the combined threat of INDONESIANS WANTING TO INVADE OUR COUNTRY AS THEIR BIRTHRIGHT and the CHINESE BUSINESS PERSONS ABILITY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN SLOWLY OVER TIME LIKE A TORTUROUS BUT ASSURED EVENT, .........  Shocked
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Reply #3 - May 8th, 2014 at 6:59pm
 
Without nuclear weapons, Australia is a sitting duck. If we had long range ICBMs aimed at the like of Indonesia and China they would soon drop any ideas of invasion.

Isreal is a case in point, surrounded by hostile neighbours, none would ever dream of invading for that reason alone.
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Reply #4 - May 18th, 2014 at 7:37am
 
fractalign wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 6:59pm:
Without nuclear weapons, Australia is a sitting duck. If we had long range ICBMs aimed at the like of Indonesia and China they would soon drop any ideas of invasion.

Israel is a case in point, surrounded by hostile neighbours, none would ever dream of invading for that reason alone.



We exist under a nuclear umbrella provided by the United States.

That being said - nuclear weapons could never be used
as they would risk the end of the world.
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Reply #5 - May 18th, 2014 at 8:32am
 
Which country would you fight with Bowen?
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Reply #6 - May 19th, 2014 at 11:44pm
 
China is beginning to do in the South China Sea is what the USA began to do 150 years ago in the Caribbean:  make it their backyard by throwing their weight around.
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Reply #7 - Jun 13th, 2014 at 11:42am
 
Looks like our Dear Leader has decided to respond in the time honoured traditional Australian Government manner - ask for more American troops to be stationed on our territory!

PRC is a long way from Australia.  Somehow I doubt they want to invade us.    Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #8 - Jun 13th, 2014 at 3:19pm
 
Quick! Rally the troops. We'll fight them on the beaches. We'll be the Aussie-cong. Send the rednecks out bush with all the firearms licenses they can point a grenade launcher at and leave them to it.

Coz we've got them licked. They're outnumbered, outgunned, outfinanced, and frankly simply outdone by our aussie awesomeness. There's nothing they can do about it either.
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Reply #9 - Jun 13th, 2014 at 3:39pm
 
BlindFreddy wrote on Jun 13th, 2014 at 3:19pm:
Quick! Rally the troops. We'll fight them on the beaches. We'll be the Aussie-cong. Send the rednecks out bush with all the firearms licenses they can point a grenade launcher at and leave them to it.

Coz we've got them licked. They're outnumbered, outgunned, outfinanced, and frankly simply outdone by our aussie awesomeness. There's nothing they can do about it either.


Why would they want to when they can pay us to dig up the country and send it to them a ship at a time?   Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #10 - Jun 13th, 2014 at 8:27pm
 
Haha, ore don't you mean they helped us make our mined up?
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Reply #11 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 4:12am
 
AiA wrote on May 19th, 2014 at 11:44pm:
China is beginning to do in the South China Sea is what the USA began to do 150 years ago in the Caribbean:  make it their backyard by throwing their weight around. 

YE, THREATS IS WHERE IT'S AT... INVASION IS FOR THE BIRDS: THREATS OF IS THE REAL DEAL!!
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Reply #12 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 4:15am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 7:37am:
fractalign wrote on May 8th, 2014 at 6:59pm:
Without nuclear weapons, Australia is a sitting duck. If we had long range ICBMs aimed at the like of Indonesia and China they would soon drop any ideas of invasion.

Israel is a case in point, surrounded by hostile neighbours, none would ever dream of invading for that reason alone.



We exist under a nuclear umbrella provided by the United States.

That being said - nuclear weapons could never be used
as they would risk the end of the world.

NUCLEAR wEAPONS WERE NOT USED AFTER 9-11... therefore the nuclear umbrella idea makes the whole of world peace up for discussion!

We are living in desperate times my dear...  Cool
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Reply #13 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 8:40am
 
Unfortunately when dealing with China, their own assured destruction would be their only restraint.
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Reply #14 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:05pm
 
Not fer nothin', I'll be sleeping with one eye open, & firearms at my side, having Obama at my back doesn't give one a warm & fuzzy feeling..
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