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Reply #45 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:34pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:24am:
The cut in refugee intake from 20K to 13K was made by the simian shortly after the election.

We are becoming a pariah state, bit by bit. Just because bogans are afraid of “different” people—brown skinned ones mainly. We are also becoming a third world nation with no manufacturing and no decent internet so long term it will solve the boat problem—nobody will want to come here, instead people will be leaving, in droves.


Love to see the lefties suffering emotional incontinence. That alone has made electing Abbott worthwhile. The rest is bonus.

This is just what is happening.
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Reply #46 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 8:29pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 4:06pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 11:13am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:24am:
The cut in refugee intake from 20K to 13K was made by the simian shortly after the election.



Bad form Abbott not keeping a dud Labor policy eh.


Labor never rose the quota to 20,000 - it was an election promise.

Abbott would have been smart to raise the quota. Sure, no one notices numbers in this debate, and the rise would be yesterday’s news within 24 hours, but Abbott could have claimed the high moral ground and brought the churches into the tent.

At present, they’re damning the Libs to hell.

If Abbott can shake the racist Howard-era boat policy stigma, he can begin to reform himself. He’s already trying to soften his image with his take on Aboriginal issues. If Abbott wanted to be the conviction politician Rupert Murdoch thinks he is, he could do a David Cameron and take the edge off blunt policies like Nauru/Manus Island and his veiled Indonesian taunts.

Abbott could reach out to the centre by making some very small, if not symbolic, concessions. Raising the refugee quota would give his tough border action some heart. Abbott needs desperately to show there’s something nice about him.

Let’s face it, Abbott’s not making any friends with farmers, business, unions, and after the budget is leaked, everyone else. None of the impending long-term economic woes are Abbott’s fault, but the boat issue is entirely his own making. No one would have noticed refugees if Abbott, Alan and the Tele didn’t stage a joint opera for 5 years over 60,000 boat people.

But they did, and Abbott is now reaping the rewards. The navy are now getting results, which is starting - ever so slightly - to make Abbott look less like a flat foot. If the Navy succeed in preventing boats entering without any deaths, popular opinion may well come around to the idea that there was always some sense in turning back boats.

But Abbott won’t be forgiven if he doesn’t give the luvvies something. They never forgave Howard, and in the end, their criticisms came home to roost. A large "not happy John"  minoririty in 2003 became a landslide in Kevin 07. Ultimately, Workchoices did it, but the electorate still smelt something fishy over Children Overboard, the Pacific Solution, and of course, the Iraq War. Howard’s demise would not have been so jubulant without the sins of his Tampa past.

The same will happen to Abbott if he doesn’t claim the centre. With economic dark clouds on the horizon, he is shaping up to be one unpopular leader if he doesn’t develop a conscience.

This is, after all, why he’s in politics. Abbott’s not a dry, he’s a social conservative. Abbott doesn’t have the faintest care for economic issues. His bent is his own take on social justice and reclaiming the country from the sinister forces of the left. Abbott’s soul is in the church, but he is rapidly alienating this group. When the cuts come (and the charity sector loses valuable contracts), he’ll push them even further away.

If Abbott’s smart, he’ll soften up. If his natural instincts for biffo aren’t buffeted , he will be a two term PM - at best.

Not bad, but this is not what the Libs are settling in for.


Thank you, Michelle Grattan/Paul Bongiorno/Fran Kelly.

You are your own parody, PB.



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Reply #47 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 8:33pm
 
Sparky wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 10:48am:
Sparky wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:57am:
If the Indonesians and the progressives are unhappy then I'm in heaven. Them being unhappy is always a great indication.


What have you got against Indonesians, Sparky?
When I say Indonesians I mean their government. Just because of the general disrespect they show Australia.



It is us that is sneaking people in their back door and improperly crossing into their territory at a government level, looks like the respect problem is very much the other way around.
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Reply #48 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 7:34am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 12:15pm:
Who will be responsible if one of these orange life boats smashes onto some rocks with woman and children aboard.....I know some of you will say the asylum seekers are responsible for their own choices but they had already been rescued imprisoned by the navy and forced back to a country that is not a signatory to the refugee convention.....Abbott and Morrison are completely responsible for anything that occurs after the Navy intercepts asylum seeker vessels.....Once you take it you own it???

Angry Angry Angry
Just like the policy under the labor/greens government that sent many illegals to their death at sea?



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Reply #49 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 7:43am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:24am:
The cut in refugee intake from 20K to 13K was made by the simian shortly after the election.

We are becoming a pariah state, bit by bit. Just because bogans are afraid of “different” people—brown skinned ones mainly. We are also becoming a third world nation with no manufacturing and no decent internet so long term it will solve the boat problem—nobody will want to come here, instead people will be leaving, in droves.


No wonder you failed in business, you fail to under stand the most simple principles of economics.
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Reply #50 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 9:07am
 
I didn’t fail in business. I ran my own businesses 1985–2010. Then had to retire due arthritis becoming unbearable—in the HBS I was walking 6 days a week on cement floors.

I also studied economics for a year as part of my Batchelor of Business (Marketing.)
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Reply #51 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 7:58pm
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:24am:
The cut in refugee intake from 20K to 13K was made by the simian shortly after the election.

We are becoming a pariah state, bit by bit. Just because bogans are afraid of “different” people—brown skinned ones mainly. We are also becoming a third world nation with no manufacturing and no decent internet so long term it will solve the boat problem—nobody will want to come here, instead people will be leaving, in droves.

Putting Australia's interest first - unbearable for leftoids.

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Reply #52 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:05pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 7:58pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:24am:
The cut in refugee intake from 20K to 13K was made by the simian shortly after the election.

We are becoming a pariah state, bit by bit. Just because bogans are afraid of “different” people—brown skinned ones mainly. We are also becoming a third world nation with no manufacturing and no decent internet so long term it will solve the boat problem—nobody will want to come here, instead people will be leaving, in droves.

Putting Australia's interest first - unbearable for leftoids.



But not bad for the Huns.

Which quota did you come in on, old chap?

The old boy quota, or... ?
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Reply #53 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:21pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:05pm:
Which quota did you come in on, old chap?



The 'Please, come and help us. We have a load of Paki B vggers here, sabotaging this great country at every turn with incessant hostile jibberish. We need people who can contribute and support this country, not sneer at it and ridicule its people at every opportunity'.


That quota.


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Reply #54 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:36pm
 
Smear? Good heavens, old chap, I won’t hear a bit of it. You prefer to dab, no?

You’re one of those positive, smear-free immigrants - with so much gratitude and love for his hosts.

Soren wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
Love to see the lefties suffering emotional incontinence. That alone has made electing Abbott worthwhile. The rest is bonus.
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Reply #55 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:50pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:36pm:
Smear? Good heavens, old chap, I won’t hear a bit of it. You prefer to dab, no?

You’re one of those positive, smear-free immigrants - with so much gratitude and love for his hosts.

Soren wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
Love to see the lefties suffering emotional incontinence. That alone has made electing Abbott worthwhile. The rest is bonus.

You are passing the ball (making bizarre connections) to people only you see, PB.
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Reply #56 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:59pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:50pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:36pm:
Smear? Good heavens, old chap, I won’t hear a bit of it. You prefer to dab, no?

You’re one of those positive, smear-free immigrants - with so much gratitude and love for his hosts.

Soren wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
Love to see the lefties suffering emotional incontinence. That alone has made electing Abbott worthwhile. The rest is bonus.

You are passing the ball (making bizarre connections) to people only you see, PB.


There’s nothing wrong with cleaning out one’s colostomy bag in the public toilet, old chap. We don’t hold you as any less of person because of it, and yes, I would fight for your right to do so.
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Reply #57 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 9:11pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 8:33pm:
Sparky wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 10:48am:
Sparky wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:57am:
If the Indonesians and the progressives are unhappy then I'm in heaven. Them being unhappy is always a great indication.


What have you got against Indonesians, Sparky?
When I say Indonesians I mean their government. Just because of the general disrespect they show Australia.



It is us that is sneaking people in their back door and improperly crossing into their territory at a government level, looks like the respect problem is very much the other way around.


Sneaking?
The Indon's aren't even looking in the right direction as they are all too busy faced north.
No sneaking is required.
And returning their people on their boats that recently left their ports with their passengers is hardly improper.
I think it's more in the realm of being neighbourly.
It's like when your neighbours dog jumps the fence into your yard.
Do you shoo the dog away from your yard, or do you return the mangy mutt back where it came from.
I think the Abbott government is practicing a good neighbour policy.
Can the neighbour then complain that you are returning his dog that keeps jumping from his yard into yours over the fence.
Can he claim that he is not responsible as his yard is only a transit lounge for wayward dogs?
Can he claim that he has enough issues going on in his yard to be bothered about the dog jumping the fence.
He can try, but I suspect he would get ignored as his problems remain his problems despite him claiming otherwise.
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Reply #58 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 9:13pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:59pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:50pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:36pm:
Smear? Good heavens, old chap, I won’t hear a bit of it. You prefer to dab, no?

You’re one of those positive, smear-free immigrants - with so much gratitude and love for his hosts.

Soren wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
Love to see the lefties suffering emotional incontinence. That alone has made electing Abbott worthwhile. The rest is bonus.

You are passing the ball (making bizarre connections) to people only you see, PB.


There’s nothing wrong with cleaning out one’s colostomy bag in the public toilet, old chap. We don’t hold you as any less of person because of it, and yes, I would fight for your right to do so.


Your a good man Karnal, and none would say otherwise.
Your always looking out for people. Smiley
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"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

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Reply #59 - Feb 17th, 2014 at 10:30pm
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 9:13pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:59pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:50pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:36pm:
Smear? Good heavens, old chap, I won’t hear a bit of it. You prefer to dab, no?

You’re one of those positive, smear-free immigrants - with so much gratitude and love for his hosts.

Soren wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 1:18pm:
Love to see the lefties suffering emotional incontinence. That alone has made electing Abbott worthwhile. The rest is bonus.

You are passing the ball (making bizarre connections) to people only you see, PB.


There’s nothing wrong with cleaning out one’s colostomy bag in the public toilet, old chap. We don’t hold you as any less of person because of it, and yes, I would fight for your right to do so.


Your a good man Karnal, and none would say otherwise.
Your always looking out for people. Smiley


Thanks, CL. I do find these new Australians need assistance with things we take for granted.

When he’s finished, I’ll show him how to flush.
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