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Reply #150 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 10:24am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Rubbish - she is innocent.

Don't use strawman fallacies on this forum.

why? you use fallicies all the time. Not sure if you are heard or not, but she was guilty in a court of law ... anything else you claim is just pure fantasy

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Reply #151 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler.
At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

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Reply #152 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:15am

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler.
At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

The sympathy is there because of the type of drug.

Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

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Reply #153 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:17am

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 12:18pm:

Nobody was perpetuating that myth in this thread.

no? not how I read it .... especially the highlighted bit

Kat wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

Cannabis users are NOT 'junkies', John.Fur fox sake, they're not even 'drug addicts'.Smoking a joint is less harmful than drinking, and you do not become violent or suffer from hang-overs.

No. You read it wrong.

" ... has no ill effects".

Nobody is saying it has NO ill effects.

It certainly has some ill effects, however, not those particular ill effects.

semantics

No, not "semantics" at all.

You read it completely wrong.

NOBODY is saying that it has NO ill effects.

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Reply #154 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:23am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler.
At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

The sympathy is there because of the type of drug.

Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine

You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined.

In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned

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Reply #155 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler.
At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

The sympathy is there because of the type of drug.

Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine

You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined.

In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned

That's correct.

If she was stupid enough to smuggle drugs, that's her problem.

However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

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Reply #156 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

I think you will find that a lot of people think she is innocent. Just look at this thread and the number of people blaming the baggage handlers.

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Reply #157 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:45am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler.
At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

The sympathy is there because of the type of drug.

Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine

You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined.

In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned

That's correct.

If she was stupid enough to smuggle drugs, that's her problem.

However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

I agree with that.......but clearly the Indonesian court did not.....

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Re: Schapelle Corby, parole decision..
Reply #158 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler.
At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

The sympathy is there because of the type of drug.

Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine

You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined.

In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned

That's correct.

If she was stupid enough to smuggle drugs, that's her problem.

However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

and yet they deserve to lose 3 points and over $100 in fines because they exceed the speed limit by 1km? at least one you can claim is accidental .. the other is deliberate

I'll leave you to work out which is which

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Re: Schapelle Corby, parole decision..
Reply #159 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:07pm

Alinta wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Schapelle is innocent - a victim of 3rd world justice gone wrong.

They should let her go & pay her $100 million in compensation
for ruining her life.

rubbish, if Shapelle looked like a hairy bikie covered in tats you wouldn't even think twice about her guilt ...

Exactly right. Because she is Australian, young, white, female and attractive there has been a great deal more sympathy than would be given to any other drug smuggler.
At the time Channel 9 were shamelessly biased in their assumption she was innocent.

The sympathy is there because of the type of drug.

Nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

Perhaps you should look at it like a speeding fine

You have always said that if you don't speed you won't get fined.

In this case if you don't smuggle drugs you wont get imprisioned

That's correct.

If she was stupid enough to smuggle drugs, that's her problem.

However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

I agree with that.......but clearly the Indonesian court did not.....

if you don't like their punishments, don't break their laws.

Australia could learn a thing or two from Indoensia ..

where's Bobby when you want him .. 'Hang em high'

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Reply #160 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:11pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:06pm:

and yet they deserve to lose 3 points and over $100 in fines because they exceed the speed limit by 1km?

Nope, not at all.

I've certainly never supported people being fined over $100 and losing 3 points for exceeding the speed limit by 1km.

Where is this happening?

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Reply #161 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:14pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

However, what I'm saying is that the law is an ass in this case: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction, and that's why she is receiving sympathy.

I think you will find that a lot of people think she is innocent. Just look at this thread and the number of people blaming the baggage handlers.

Yes, I think she's innocent too.

However, if she walked up to me tomorrow and confessed to the crime, my reaction would still be exactly the same: nobody deserves 20 years for a cannabis conviction.

I don't care if it's 4 kilos or 4 tonne.

The "law" is an ass, in Indonesia.

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Reply #162 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:35pm

True Blue... wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 6:08am:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 9:13pm:

ian wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 8:57pm:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 6^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1368069.htm

and since 2005 drug smuggling baggage handlers at Sydney Airport continue to be sacked...

how they can be sacked and all swept under the carpet is a crime... Angry

I recall that they sacked another 5 of them in 2013...

but oh no...

according to IAN... doesn't happen...

struth ian... do you ever get sick of being wrong Roll Eyes

Lol, own goal. Read your link and then directly quote me the bit where it states baggage handlers were planting drugs in passengers suitcases. the baggage handler theory was totally fabricated by Corbys' first lawyer, a fact he admitted publically to. Try again.

Are you saying that baggage handlers haven't been dismissed for smuggling drugs??

question too hard?

no, just irrelevant. The baggage handling theory was fabricated, comprehension problems?

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Alinta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1470 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Schapelle Corby, parole decision.. Reply #163 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:36pm "if you don't like their punishments, don't break their laws." I also agree with that......hence my lack of any real sympathy........hope Indonesia grants her parole though-
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Schapelle Corby, parole decision.. Reply #164 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 7^th, 2014 at 12:14pm: [ The "law" is an ass, in Indonesia. Really? If you murder someone in Indonesia you get life, real life not 7 years. I guess you support lenient sentences for criminal.
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