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Reply #30 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:38pm
 
Cosgrove the peoples' hero?..I don't think so.

Cosgrove had me until he hung Federal Police Commissioner 'out to dry' when he (Cosgrove) did a Pontius Pilate, article follows:Keelty retreats on terrorism remarks


By Cynthia Banham and Freya Petersen
March 17, 2004

 

United in grief . . . mourners observe a three-minute silence outside the Spanish embassy in Canberra yesterday. In Sydney about 500 people converged on Liverpool Street, where they lit a candle in memory of the victims. Photo: Pat Scala


The Australian Federal Police Commissioner, Mick Keelty, has backed away from controversial comments linking the Madrid terrorist bombings to Spain's involvement in the invasion of Iraq, which contradicted the position of the Federal Government.

After three days of criticism from government ministers, and public rebukes from the Prime Minister, John Howard, Mr Keelty last night issued a statement "clarifying" his views, saying his words had been "taken out of context".

While not retracting his comments -which implied Australia might also be at greater risk of terrorism because of its role in Iraq, he echoed views expressed this week by Mr Howard, the Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer, and the Attorney-General, Philip Ruddock, that Australia had been a terrorist target since before the attacks in the US on September 11, 2001.

He said terrorism sought to attack Australia's "liberal democratic values" and that this was the case "no matter what our involvement in East Timor, Afghanistan or Iraq".

His statement followed reports that an official from Mr Howard's office had telephoned Mr Keelty on Sunday, shortly after he made the comments in a television interview, to voice his displeasure with the remarks.

The Australian Defence Force chief, General Peter Cosgrove, also

backed the Government's position against Mr Keelty, saying the commissioner was wrong to suggest the ADF's presence in Iraq had increased the risk of an attack in Australia.

He said he had seen "the same intelligence" as Mr Keelty and disagreed with his suggestion the Madrid bombings, if they proved the work of Islamic terrorists, could be linked to Spain's involvement in the Iraq invasion.

"I think we're being attacked by al-Qaeda, [Jemaah Islamiah] and all other terrorists because of who we are and what we are, rather than where we've been or when we've been there."

Mr Howard continued to rebuke Mr Keelty yesterday, saying ASIO's director general, Dennis Richardson, was the person "more than anybody else" who made risk assessments for the Government.



Mick Keelty was humiliated by the Government and Cosgrove behaved like a 'damp squib' and took cover quicker than you could blink leaving poor Keelty to get broadsided.
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Reply #31 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:44pm
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
GG Cosgrove going to make it harder to normalise relations with Indonesia.



Is this you using your 'commonsense' again, because anyone with even smallest ability to read and conduct research knows that he has and always had a great working relationship with the indons.

Maybe you ignorant retards should pick up a book instead of a comic every now and again.

BTW his autobiography is still a very good read even for morons who are determine to express their toitally ignorant opinions.

Sometimes you should just give up george, you are not curious enough to add to the conversation, now are you?  Smiley



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Reply #32 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:48pm
 
Oh yes, shock horror, some of us have had the temerity to criticise that hallowed hero Peter Cosgrove.

He squibbed it on Mick Keelty and hung him out to dry, to appease John Howard...weak as piss, as the crunchies say
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Reply #33 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:49pm
 
red baron wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:38pm:
Cosgrove the peoples' hero?..I don't think so.

Cosgrove had me until he hung Federal Police Commissioner 'out to dry' when he (Cosgrove) did a Pontius Pilate, article follows:Keelty retreats on terrorism remarks




Mick Keelty was humiliated by the Government and Cosgrove behaved like a 'damp squib' and took cover quicker than you could blink leaving poor Keelty to get broadsided.



Are you saying that cosgrove is not allowed to have an opinion different to you and keelty; he stated what he believed, maybe keelty should have commented on matters not of his profession.


It is not cosgrove's job to pull anyone out of the sh1t if they say something they shouldn't have; which makes you a pretty shallow sort of a person, now doesn't it?


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Reply #34 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:55pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:44pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
GG Cosgrove going to make it harder to normalise relations with Indonesia.



Is this you using your 'commonsense' again, because anyone with even smallest ability to read and conduct research knows that he has and always had a great working relationship with the indons.

Maybe you ignorant retards should pick up a book instead of a comic every now and again.

BTW his autobiography is still a very good read even for morons who are determine to express their toitally ignorant opinions.

Sometimes you should just give up george, you are not curious enough to add to the conversation, now are you?  Smiley





Click here.

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Let's see if we get further here.

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The question therefore needs to be asked: how will Jakarta respond to a Cosgrove appointment? In an article on the ABC website, John Menadue argues that Cosgrove could indeed be a further provocation. “Discretion suggests that the Abbott Government should not worsen the situation by appointing a former military opponent of Indonesia as our next governor general,” he writes.

Time will tell, but it needn't be all bad. As a general, Cosgrove proved himself an adroit diplomat during the INTERFET operation, playing a cool hand during several provocations and flash points. As Governor-General, he may be able to employ some of that skill to smooth troubled waters.

However, personal diplomacy can only take you so far. Cosgrove is not in charge of Australia’s foreign policy; Tony Abbott and Julie Bishop are, with a healthy dose of Scott Morrison for good measure. Therein lies the problem.

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Reply #35 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:00pm
 
No Ole 64 it makes you an  apologist for what was disgraceful conduct by Cosgrove when Mick Keelty head of the Australian Federal Police made his position on terrorism in Spain having links to terrorism in Iraq.

Cosgrove turned his position around faster than a Ferrari when Keelty felt the blowtorch administered by John Howard.

Howard bullied Keelty into submission and made the poor man look like a total dick.

Cosgrove deserted Keelty like he  was Custer at the Battle of the Little Big Horn.
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Reply #36 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:06pm
 
red baron wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:00pm:
No Ole 64 it makes you a  apologist for what was disgraceful conduct by Cosgrove when Mick Keelty head of the Australian Federal Police made his position on terrorism in Spain having links to terrorism in Iraq.

Cosgrove turned his position around faster than a Ferrari when Keelty felt the blowtorch administered by John Howard.

Howard bullied Keelty into submission and made the poor man look like a total dick.

Cosgrove deserted Keelty like he  was Custer at the Battle of the Little Big Horn.



I will agree that howard is a total front bottom and should have been killed at birth, but keelty made his own bed, it's not cosgrove's job to get him out of the sh1t.

When dealing with a peice of sh1t like howard, just say nothing until he is removed from office, keelty didn't need to comment on foreign policy or Australia's combat missions, not his job.


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Reply #37 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:14pm
 
Keelty's job as AFP Commissioner definitely involved a watch on terrorism across borders internationally...He was FEDERAL POLICE COMISSIONER not STATE...a vastly different portfolio.

Cosgrove has done a sterling job in many, many areas but he dropped the ball on that one. It was  not a fact based decision, he made a political decision which was severely disappointing and blotted up to that point a great portfolio..
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Reply #38 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:16pm
 
Who cares.....the GG does SFA anyway and should go along with the Monarchy!!!

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Reply #39 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:17pm
 
With Indonesia upset at the simian’s behavior, appointing Cosgrove could well be considered yet another insult by the simian.

JBish has managed to piss off the Chinese even more. China is not our best friend, it seems, nor Japan nor Indonesia, it seems our best friend is the US!

Foreign diplomacy run by children FFS!
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Reply #40 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:20pm
 
Jesus how long has this guy been sucking off the tit honestly.  All his working life from what I can gather.  pathetic.
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Reply #41 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:23pm
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
Jesus how long has this guy been sucking off the tit honestly.  All his working life from what I can gather.  pathetic. 


Hmm.  Can't agree with that.........except his acceptance of this appointment is ????? for the reasons I have already posted ^^^^^^.
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Reply #42 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:25pm
 
red baron wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:14pm:
Keelty's job as AFP Commissioner definitely involved a watch on terrorism across borders internationally...He was FEDERAL POLICE COMISSIONER not STATE...a vastly different portfolio.

Cosgrove has done a sterling job in many, many areas but he dropped the ball on that one. It was  not a fact based decision, he made a political decision which was severely disappointing and blotted up to that point a great portfolio..



Keelty expessed a personal opinion, he had no evidence, he just blurted his opinion and you expect cosgrove to save his arse, keelty should learn to keep his mouth shut he is only a cop, forieng policy has bugger all to do with him.


His terroism duties stop at the Aussie beach, the foreign stuff belongs to the spooks at least they tend to keep their mouth shut.


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Reply #43 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:29pm
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
Jesus how long has this guy been sucking off the tit honestly.  All his working life from what I can gather.  pathetic. 




And yet he achieves more in a month that you would do over your life time.


I didn't see everyone clambering for you to lead the recovery after cyclone larry, or lead Australia on foriegn operations into hostile teritors, lead the ADF; ya friggem tool.  Grin


You lefties are such smacking morons, it's a wonder you manage to leave the house without your mother's help.


Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in the land of the fvktard



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Reply #44 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:30pm
 
Big Ole 64...I think you demean the role of the Australian Federal Police Commissioner.

He is entitled to respect for his position, just as a General in the Army is entitled to a modicum of respect for his particular role.

Keelty's comments would not have been made 'off the cuff' and would have been backed by intelligence reports.

It defies logic to say he would have made his comments 'off the cuff'.

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