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Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:22am
 
This last weekend yet another Muslim street-march demonstration took place in Sydney with a reported 100 or so involved. A couple of months ago they did the same thing.

They're still highly irate and inconsolably pissed-off that Islamic extremists Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt are no longer in power.

These are the Mammon-worshipping Muslim-faithful who at one time had hypocritically decided on a global 12,000 mile migrant Odyssey to Australia rather than take the short trip to settle in Egypt with its Arabic language, its Islamic culture, and the joys and assurances of its Third World medieval social values system.

And so here they are, on our streets, thoroughly pissed-off that religious fascism was not allowed to take root in a distant country that they had once been so careful to avoid as a migrant destination.

Any sane society that was not at the mercy of a Party-political system would have these people quickly rounded up and put into detention centres to await deportation back to their countries of origin.

But that's not going to happen ~ even though the majority in the electorate might agree with this course of action.

And so it begs that a third major party needs arise in competition with the current Liberals and Labor political duopoly.

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Protestors take fight for democracy to Sydney streets

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    January 25, 2014

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Egyptian protesters march down George Street.

Egyptian protesters march down George Street. Photo: Damian Shaw

Traffic stopped on major Sydney streets on Saturday when more than 100 protesters marched to demand a return to democracy in Egypt.

Escorted by police, the Australian-Egyptian protesters chanted – "Down with the military coup" and "Red, White, Black, I want my Egypt back" – as they trailed a billowing flag of the fractured Middle East nation.

A coalition of disparate voices, from liberals to Islamists and supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood, marched from Town Hall along George, Goulburn, Elizabeth and Albion streets before they protested outside the Egyptian consulate in Commonwealth Street, Surry Hills.
Egyptian protesters march down George Street.


They chose March 25 for the protest, the third anniversary of the mass protests in Cairo's Tahrir Square that led to the overthrow of dictator Hosni Mubarak.

Under the banner Voice For Human Rights, they objected to the military coup in July last year that overthrew Mohamed Morsi, Egypt's first democratically elected president, in the wake of widespread public opposition to the new leader. They say the military has since killed more than 6000 peaceful protesters while political prisoners are subjected to systematic torture.

"It is not that most people here today support Morsi," said Omar Elnawsra, a trainee gastroenterologist at Liverpool Hospital. "It is not about support for the person – it is about the democratic process."

The marchers included a lone Coptic Christian, Sydney architect and builder Hany Sorial, whose community widely supported a recent referendum for a draft constitution leading to fresh elections this year.

Many boycotted the referendum, which drew less than 40 per cent of voters, but the leadership of General El Sisi claimed 98 per cent support from those who did vote – a farcical result that provided clear evidence of vote-rigging, according to the Sydney protesters.

The march proceeded peacefully, although one pedestrian took offence that police were paving the way for the rally. "Go home!" he bellowed at the marchers.

A middle-aged marcher stopped to embrace the man warmly. "I told him, 'Don't worry, we will go home as soon as we can. Right now, that is not possible. There is no freedom at home. There is no democracy.'"

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/protestors-take-fight-for-democracy-to-sydney-streets-20140125-31ff3.html#ixzz2rexSh9C2

   

    
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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egyp
Reply #1 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:51am
 
Are there any news stories?  I had a look but couldn't find any.

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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egypt
Reply #2 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:18am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:51am:
Are there any news stories?  I had a look but couldn't find any.


It's on page 11

Pay your subscription and you can view it.

The Sunday Telegraph Jan 26 2014 ... "Protesters March for Morsi"

Two glaring questions come to mind:

1) Why did the television news media choose to ignore a Muslim protest march that was in favour of a Far Rightwing government in Egypt ~ WAY more to the Right than anything we've ever seen in Australia?

Not newsworthy?

Or just gutless journalism not wishing to step on ethnic 'sensitivities'?

2) WHERE were gandalf's REAL Muslims who should have been out on the streets confronting these extremists as not representing True Islam, and whose protest-march was very bad PR for those Muslims in Australia who like to describe themselves as 'Moderate' and compatible with Western cultural values?

Nowhere to be seen.

'Out to Lunch'

'Gone Fishing for the Weekend'

'Will be Back Soon'.

'Please Leave your Message and telephone number after the beeps'.

'Doesn't live here any more ~ whereabouts unknown'i


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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egypt
Reply #3 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:20am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:22am:
100 or so involved


Epic.
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Reply #4 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:30am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:20am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 7:22am:
100 or so involved


Epic.


Tip of the iceberg as proven by no opposition.

Now see what happens if One Nation should hold a street march in protest of these Muslim protesters protesting on behalf of a Fascist version of Islam ...

You know it ~ I know it ... the riot police would have to be called out to control an irate crowd of hundreds of Sydney Muslims spitting and chanting Islamic mantras in support of the '100 Muslim protesters'. The mobile phones would be burning hot as they rallied each other to shout down the One Nation marchers.

You and your PR Muslim colleagues will never win the argument, gandalf.

WAY too many contradictions, and WAY too much defending the indefensible.

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Reply #5 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:43am
 
I'm wondering why even One Nation would hold a "counter protest" against people protesting against the overthrow and subsequent persecution of members a democratic government in Egypt.
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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egypt
Reply #6 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:30am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:43am:

I'm wondering why even One Nation would hold a "counter protest" against people protesting against the overthrow and subsequent persecution of members a democratic government in Egypt.






"....the overthrow and subsequent persecution of members a democratic government in Egypt."


That's a laugh!




gandalf,

Your claim seems to be, that Morsi's government was legitimate, because it was democratically elected ?

I would claim that Morsi and the Moslem Brotherhood stole the election [an election which they did 'win'], by misrepresenting their intended policies, to the Egyptian people.

Therefore, i and many others, would claim that Morsi's government was NOT legitimate.

There is no legitimacy to government authority, if politicians who are seeking government authority, lie to those who are electing them, so as to get elected.

Or, is your argument that it is OK for politicians to lie [during an election], so as to get elected, for the sole purpose, to seize 'legitimate' government authority ???


gandalf,

Do you understand, that in 'democracy', the actual authority to govern, is derived directly from the people ?

Because, it is the people, who give the members of government, which is elected, the authority to govern, ON THEIR BEHALF [i.e. on behalf of the people] ?

So if a government steals an election, by lying and misrepresenting its intentions, to those who give it [a government] authority, then the people would be justified in using force, to remove that government.




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Prior to being elected, Mohamed Morsi told the promised the Egyptian public, that if elected, the Moslem Brotherhood would govern for all Egyptians.





But at a Moslem Brotherhood political rally Morsi revealed that the Moslem Brotherhood promises [made to the wider Egyptian public] were a pack of lies....

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Mild mannered -
"We will govern for all Egyptians"
- Mohamed Morsi -
Ex-President of Egypt


"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg


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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egypt
Reply #7 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:40am
 
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"It is not that most people here today support Morsi," said Omar Elnawsra, a trainee gastroenterologist at Liverpool Hospital. "It is not about support for the person – it is about the democratic process.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/protestors-take-fight-for-democracy-to-sydney-streets-20140125-31ff3.html#ixzz2reJ2vKS3


So it's an anti coup protest, and a call for real democracy.

hardly something most people would argue against.
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polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 9:43am:
I'm wondering why even One Nation would hold a "counter protest" against people protesting against the overthrow and subsequent persecution of members a democratic government in Egypt.


Well there you go. You've just blown your credibility as a 'moderate' Muslim.

No one is buying the apologist nonsense that this is a protest about democracy having been temporarily suspended for the purpose of removing a dangerously Rightwing fascist version of Islam from governing Egypt.

It's very revealing that self-proclaimed 'moderates' such as yourself are choosing to support the lie that these protesters are in no way sympathetic to Morsi's version of Islamic extremist politics, but are only concerned that democracy has been temporarily suspended.

You must think the average Australian is a gullible idiot who will accept this nonsense as plausible.

There may have been only 100 Muslims on the street ~ but your own response to this has demonstrated that those in the Muslim community who claim to be 'moderates' and real Muslims ~ are frauds and deceitful charlatans.






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Re: Sydney protests against overthrow of Morsi in Egypt
Reply #9 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:00am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:30am:
Prior to being elected, Mohamed Morsi told the promised the Egyptian public, that if elected, the Moslem Brotherhood would govern for all Egyptians.

But at a Moslem Brotherhood political rally Morsi revealed that the Moslem Brotherhood promises [made to the wider Egyptian public] were a pack of lies....


As the video states, this "revelation" was made months before the election - while Morsi was campaigning.

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So if a government steals an election, by lying and misrepresenting its intentions, to those who give it [a government] authority, then the people would be justified in using force, to remove that government.


Last I checked, Egypt is over 90% muslim - you know the people who you demonize in every single post you make - the people who you say should be dismissed as perpetual liars and deceivers? The people who, without exception, aspire to kill non-muslims and spread terror wherever they reside? Ring any bells Y?

I'm pretty sure the point you have been making for the last 8 thousand or so posts you have made is that there is no distinction between muslims - "they" are all the same, all fanatical, all deceivers and all bloodthirsty. Is that a fair assessment do you think Yadda?

So my question is, in a country where over 90% of the population comprises these fanatical bloodthirsty liars, where exactly is this great mass of "the people" who don't consider that:

1. the Koran is their constitution
2. the prophet is their leader
3. jihad is their path
4. death for the sake of Allah is their most lofty aspiration

The < 10% non-muslim population??

Exactly who did Morsi betray/mislead by stating these principles?

Or are you now saying that not *ALL* muslims are the blind automatons you've been so meticulously portraying them as all these years??
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Or are you now saying that not *ALL* muslims are the blind automatons you've been so meticulously portraying them as all these years??


They did vote for Morsi.
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Reply #11 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:29pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:25pm:
They did vote for Morsi.


I think the correct phrasing is "They did 'vote', for Morsi"
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Reply #12 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:34pm
 
What do you think Gandalf? Did Morsi get the majority of the vote?
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Reply #13 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 12:48pm
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 28th, 2014 at 10:40am:
So it's an anti coup protest, and a call for real democracy.


Hey! Yeah, okay. Democracy! Nothing to do with Islam. Just nice liberal people on a secular mission to protest about the suspension of democracy in a country somewhere in the northern hemisphere where probably none of them have ever been.

So nice of them!

Nothing to do with Islam.

Tell me more!

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Reply #14 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 1:31pm
 
Here's some pictures of these "extremists" performing a bit of street theatre as part of the protest (wait... isn't such creativity strictly banned by such islamic extremists?? - and how come there are so many uncovered girls freely mixing with men?? Outrageous!!):

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Hijabed women proudly waving an Australian flag?? - SCANDALOUS!!
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Cover that girl!!!
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Poster reads: "There is no way to peace, peace is the way"...

how do these terrorists get away with such blatant incitement to violence!!??
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