Nigel Farage - the leader of the UK Independence Party is advocating that private hand-gun ownership be made legal again.

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In Australia it's a simple matter of joining a gun club (under a member's sponsorship) ~ and then acquiring a gun and making sure you shoot at the club a certain required number of times a year.

Voila. You've got a handgun at home.

Cofgod wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 8:07am:


Since the ethnic immigrant invasion the police have had to be armed. That's a radical change since I was there in the 50's.

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Armed with what?
Your average cop in the UK still doesn't carry a firearm.

viewpoint wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 9:52am:


Here in Sydney just this week we had a story in the news about some Muslims gathered at a private house to mourn the murder of one of their friends, with a couple of these mourners then jumping out into the street to start firing handguns at somebody who had the stereo in his car turned up a little too loud.

Yes, the Usual Suspects.

This is a classic example of fire-arm prohibitions resulting in criminals being the only ones to be in possession of guns.

Meanwhile, Mr Average and his wife sit at home in the evenings and hope and pray they haven't drawn the short straw for a 'home invasion' or a 'drive-by'.

Howard banned guns. Do you really believe he doesn't have a hand gun in the house for his protection?

viewpoint wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 9:52am:


Farage's argument is that when handguns were banned in 1997 crimes involving them doubled in the next five years.

So it could be that the ban on handguns actually hasn't worked and could have actually made it worse. 

As Farage said: "If you criminalise handguns then only the criminals carry the guns."

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 4:36pm:

Defence is defence!!

Cofgod wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 11:16pm:


The problem with gun-ownership is that the vast majority of would-be responsible owners are denied a gun because of the small minority of idiot hooligans who would flash them around and cause accidents ~ some of them fatal.

Incidentally, I'm sandwiched between two neighbours who lawfully both have guns in the house. If you're willing to go through certain procedures to own a gun, then it can be done, but it's a fairly lengthy process.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 31^st, 2014 at 5:23am:


As of 2007 about 5.2% of Australian adults (765,000 people) own and use firearms for purposes such as hunting, controlling feral animals, collecting, and target shooting.

In the UK (not including Northern Ireland, which has laxer gun laws and a higher proportion of its population owning guns than the UK average) in 2010 there were 164,800 people certificated to hold firearms and they owned 506,222 weapons.

There were 624,946 shotgun certificates which covered 1.5 million shotguns

Then bear in mind that Australia's population is around a third that of the UK and it shows how tiny gun ownership is in Britain.

I also think it's a culutural thing.  The British people have just never really been into gun ownership in a big way.

As a result, the United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world.  There were just 0.04 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in 2010, compared with 0.26 for New Zealand, 0.5 for Canada, 1.3 for Australia and 3.6 for the United States.

Cofgod wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 11:16pm:
Not sure how accurate his claim is but I will make a point. My understanding is that UK statistics on gun crime include all crime committed by people with replicas, air rifles and even toy guns. If this is so it is quite possible to infer that crimes otherwise committed with real guns are now being committed with replicas or toy guns.

ian wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 12:09am:


Sadly, I think you may be right.

I would up the ante on the IQ test to no less than 110 -115.

And then more importantly, a whole batch of Personality tests be given to filter out the cowboys, and the emotionally immature, and the macho egotists, and the gang-bangers, and the misfit teenage school-kids with a hankering for mass-murder in the classrooms.

And then ...

Oh hang on. That would leave no one left, wouldn't it?

Cofgod wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 8:07am:


Britain has a higher homicide rate than New Zealand which allows semi auto rifles with silencers,Britain has a higher homicide rate than Australia.

www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 25^th, 2014 at 9:51am:




Hope you're right and it's that simple

Because I want at least one gun.  For protection.  To protect my family and myself

It's said Howard had no legal authority to ban guns in this country.  It's said it was all bluff that he got away with.  Can't remember the link, but I read a lengthy, erudite thread about that somewhere

Whatever the case, I believe it my right to own a weapon I can rely upon to protect our home

Funny how the police go to dozens of shooting incidents every week, most of them involving migrants, yet those same individuals are able to obtain and use guns and the police, the law, the government is either incapable (incompetent) or uninterested in doing anything about it

The rest of us become victims at the hands of those who kill and maim us with knives, axes, swords, star poles, filthy needles, baseball bats, et al

Most of us are not trained in unarmed combat.  Most of us have no training at all in self-defence.  They're picking us off. When the police catch them, if they do, judges let them walk or pass lenient sentence.  Even murder is worth only a year or two

If the public was armed, less of them would suffer

Makes sense for people to be armed

Currently, our treacherous government rules against even the use of MACE or other self-defence sprays.  Where's the logic?  There is none.  Howard was ordered to get rid of people's guns and to render them defenceless.  And he obeyed the orders

coincidentally, it's said that Israel gave Howard innumerable awards for 'services to israel', to the point they had no awards left and had to settle for naming a forest in his honour

Where are the 'services to Australia' on Howard's part ?

Who was paying him all those years -- Aussies or jews ?  And how come he got away with it when he should have been strung from a branch

Needless to say, I agree with the guy from the UK who said people should at least have hand-guns to protect themselves and their families with

Howard meanwhile continues to use our money in the form of security for his lacklustre family and himself

We're stupid for letting this go on