Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:25am:


So that means only 2% of licensed firearm owners have two guns?

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Do I really need to explain this to you?

|dev|null wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 6:20pm:


Rural landowners/occupiers have a legal obligation to eradicate feral pests on their property by any lawful method,you might want to check such things as Wild dog pest control orders and other legislation requiring people to terminate feral pests before claiming guns don't belong in a modern society.

Since farmers have a legal obligation to remove feral pests from their property they can claim firearms and ammunition on tax.

A firearm is the best tool for dealing with feral pests,if anti gun bigots like you want to remove all guns does that leave poisoning with 1080 and trapping as the only other alternatives,are those methods considered cruel and inhumane?

My partner is a farmer and has a rifle, and she feels thats enough for her needs.

MumboJumbo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:11am:


I don't know about trespassers, but if you've ever tried hunting feral pigs or dogs, you'd know that a rapid fire rifle, like a semi-auto is a far safer and more practical option than a bolt or lever action rifle.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:36am:

I'd say you've a point about THAT! So when does your grenade launcher arrive?

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Just think western suburbs sydney? From memory though, weren't most of those guns legally owned by someone (and then stolen/sold/whatever)?

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The bulk of black market handguns you can buy here are tired, old ex security weapons and others that were privately owned, but never actually registered - the ones that float around getting bought and sold all the time.

Ones that were completely legally owned and then stolen and ending up on the black market would only make up a small percentage. Same goes for new stuff that's been imported.

You're right, you don't see many target pistols, but nor do you see much newer stuff.

MumboJumbo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:11am:


I quite agree that farmers, including graziers, are entitled to own firearms. In times of drought, farmers often have to protect young crops from predation and graziers sometimes have the heartbreaking necessity to cull large numbers of stock. This is quite apart from the necessary task of reducing feral animal numbers on their properties.

With regard to the firearms allowed, pump action and semi-auto shotguns are restricted as Category C, which removes them as an option for civilian shooters. In certain situations, particularly when dealing with feral pigs, a multi-round capacity is not only effective, but also safer - therefore highly desirable. A bolt-action centre-fire rifle is only safe with pigs at long distances. When you're down and dirty in the lignum, you want one of the two guns I surrendered during the initial buyback in 1996/7 - a Remington 5-shot coach gun or my dad's Browning semi-auto.

Farming is a full-time operation and there are many out there that appreciate the aid given by sporting shooters in managing feral populations. There is no way in the world that I would resume the style of pig-hunting I did in years past without at least a 12g. pump-action. So instances like that narrow the farmer's options while allowing feral numbers to expand.

You seem like a clever fellow and willing to engage. Why not Google the instances of street crime involving firearms, particularly those involving handguns and drive-by offences, prior to, and after 1996? Oh, and while you're at it, see if you can include the number of legally registered firearms involved in such instances. I have no doubt that you will find such research interesting.

Then. if you wish, you can get back to me and we can discuss the results.

I'll tell you something for nothing, if you can ever access the statistics, ethnicity will be a factor in firearm crime.