Still didn't read any of it - one punchy line please.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 7:35am:


I'm still working on the wording Bobby.

But pay attention, or you'll miss it!

Stratos wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:55am:



Stratos,

I'm sure there are moslems in Indonesia who have done Allah's bidding in that regard.






Stratos,

In the Hadith Allah's messenger commands moslems to kill apostates.

And in the Koran, Allah commands moslems to wage war upon those who are not moslems, and to either enslave them, or, to kill them.



Stratos,

Q.
If that is true [and it is], and, if there are more moslems in Indonesia than any other country in the world, then why haven't the Indonesians invaded Australia ?


A.
Allah is a blow-hard, puny, powerless god.

And many moslems suspect it.




e.g.
In 1948, 6 or 7 Arab/moslem armies attacked the newly formed state of Israel.

Q.
In 1948, why didn't the moslem god, Allah, help the moslems to destroy the 'Zionist' state ?




The moslems had 6 or 7 well equipped Arab/moslem armies to attack Israel.

The Jews had a few WWII surplus rifles, and a few machine guns, one WWII Spitfire, one WWII Messersmitt 109 and about 6 crop dusters.

And the Arab armies ran away,
.......because the moslems decided, that they didn't really want to die for Allah.

poor little things.




+++


Stratos,

Why is your god the god of moslems, Allah, so, so, afraid of people who do not believe in him ???

Is he afraid that they may hurt him ???



In the following Hadith, it is described, how Mohammed himself, secures the political assassination of an enemy of Allah, the puny, the powerless, 'hurt', god.....




bukhari #005.059.369

Q.
And i ask, how can a mortal man, hurt a god ????





A.
Allah is a spiritual 'cockroach', imo.

And he is scared of me.

Allah and his minions are terrified, of my God.

I've seen them depart hurriedly, depart very, very, hurriedly, in my lucid dreams.

Stratos wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 12:47pm:



Either way, i am wrong ?







Stratos,

Moslems consistently, repeatedly, making poor choices, is nothing to worry about ?

Believe that Stratos, if you will.







Quote:
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Stratos,

Men should worship God,        ...and not demons!


Matthew 4:9
And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10  Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.


Luke 4:6
And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7  If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
8  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Stratos wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:



Stratos,

1/ Moslems, within Indonesia, will have executed apostates.

2/ Is my definition of a moslem, wrong?

No, i don't believe so.





Stratos,

A moslem, .....is a moslem.






Stratos,

About 'moslems';


It is simple, Stratos,

There are only two questions that i need to answer, for me to have an understanding of 'what moslems are about';

Q. #1,


A.
Dictionary;





Q. #2,




The moslem community wants 'peace' for Australia.    Honest!!!      

An ISLAMIC peace, for Australia, '.....Just like in muslim countries.'

as per expressed in the message of this cartoon...






A few random items about ISLAM;
from the archive #1,            [the links may be defunct, but the articles are all kosher]

Creed of the sword
Mark Durie
September 23, 2006
.....the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdel Aziz al-Sheikh, issued a statement on the official Saudi news service, defending Muslims' divine right to resort to violence: "The spread of Islam has gone through several phases, secret and then public, in Mecca and Medina. God then authorised the faithful to defend themselves and to fight against those fighting them, which amounts to a right legitimised by God. This ... is quite reasonable, and God will not hate it."
Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric also explained that war was never Islam's ancient founder, the prophet Mohammed's, first choice: "He gave three options: either accept Islam, or surrender and pay tax, and they will be allowed to remain in their land, observing their religion under the protection of Muslims." Thus, according to the Grand Mufti, the third option of violence against non-Muslims was only a last resort, if they refused to convert or surrender peacefully to the armies of Islam.
.......At the beginning, in Mohammed's Meccan period, when he was weaker and his followers few, passages of the Koran encouraged peaceful relations and avoidance of conflict: "Invite (all) to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." (16:125)
Later, after persecution and emigration to Medina in the first year of the Islamic calendar, authority was given to engage in warfare for defensive purposes only: "Fight in the path of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits, for God does not love transgressors." (2:190)
As the Muslim community grew stronger and conflict with its neighbours did not abate, further revelations expanded the licence for waging war, until in Sura 9, regarded as one of the last chapters to be revealed, it is concluded that war against non-Muslims could be waged more or less at any time and in any place to extend the dominance of Islam.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20460114-601,00.html



from the archive #2,

Outspoken Muslim seeks police protection  [....err, from his fellow moslem 'bros']
By Barney Zwartz
March 22, 2007
One of Australia's most important Muslim leaders has sought police protection after criticising controversial cleric Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali.
Tom Zreika, president of the Lebanese Muslim Association - and Sheikh Hilali's employer - said he received non-stop phone threats yesterday after he released a document urging greater integration and for Muslims to "mend their ways".
The report, prepared for a national meeting of imams in Sydney this weekend, says some Muslims are "ruining it" for all and that Australians have "had enough" of Muslims.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/outspoken-muslim-seeks-police-protection/2007/03/21/1174153164032.html



MORE....

CONTINUED FROM LAST POST....

A few random items about ISLAM;
from the archive #4,

Times Online      June 26, 2006
The roots of Islamism
Michael Gove
Islamists believe in the re-ordering of society to secure total submission to a narrow, puritan and fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. They are conducting a civil war within the Islamic world designed to overthrow existing regimes, which they consider to be unforgiveably apostate, and replace them with a single and unified Muslim state, the restored Caliphate. Islamists believe that the sanctity and culture of Muslim lands are menaced and defiled by Western influences, from capitalism to feminism, which have to be eradicated.
That cleansing process must be accomplished by suicidal violence, because, in the words of Islamism's most influential thinker, Sayyid Qutb, "the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
The bloodshed should not stop at Islam's current borders. Not just because those nations which are unIslamic constitute dar-al Harb, the House of War, which constantly threatens the security of the Muslim world. But also because Islamists are driven by a divine mission to ensure the whole earth, in due course, learns to submit to Islamist rule.
The belief that Islam's sovereignty over the whole globe is necessary and total was powerfully displayed on BBC TV's Newsnight in February 2006. Anjem Choudray, one of the leaders of the UK Islamist group al-Ghurabaa, rejected the suggestion that he might be happier pursuing his fundamentalist approach to religion and politics outside the secular and liberal political culture of the UK. England, he informed the viewers, "belongs to Allah".
[link] [See a debate with Anjem Choudray [mentioned in this article], on YOUTUBE, a short 1 min, 43 sec video.
Don't miss this very clear explanation of ISLAM's ambitions - here in the West !!!
link updated,
Muslims debate Sharia (Islam laws) over England - Sky News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOfU7wskFdg]
...The scale, scope and ambition of Islamist thinking is not hidden in any secret protocol or encoded in obscure scripture. It is proclaimed, freely and fully, in the speeches and broadcasts of Islamist ideologues from Osama bin Laden to Anjem Choudray and it is outlined in the extensive texts of the founding ideologues of Islamism [i.e. ISLAMIC world supremacy, as per, ISLAMIC 'scripture'] .
...It is a remarkable commentary on the state of analytical thinking in the West that when faced with mass-murderers, who loudly proclaim the ideological basis of their actions and prophesy victory on the basis of Western weakness, Western thinkers respond by denying the ideological motivation of their attackers and instead blame the West for stoking grievances.
...Jihadists today are not conducting a series of national liberation struggles which, if each were resolved, would lead to peace on earth and goodwill to all infidels. They are prosecuting a total war in the service of a pitiless ideology. It is only by appreciating that the enemy we face is a seamless totalitarian movement that we can begin to appreciate the scale of the challenge we must confront.
...It [ISLAM] is a specifically political movement which sees the answer to every social, cultural and moral problem in the implementation of a political programme derived from strict Islamic principles and imposed at the point of a sword. Islamism is not a campaign to restore piety through teaching, preaching and encouragement to private devotion. It is a revolutionary attempt to re-make society, by argument certainly, but also inevitably by force, in order to secure total submission to a uniquely austere and militaristic divinity.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8802-2243871,00.html




You got that straight now, Stratos ???





p.s.
Bobby, i'm still working on the wording of that one-liner.

That all you got Yadda, to prove that, quote Muslims=sewerage?

A few outspoken nutters and a punch up?  The pub on Friday night has worse things in it! 

Also, you are avoiding my question about our close neighbors.