Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 20
th, 2014 at 10:17am:
Yes, he's thinking of liberalism.
The conservatives and liberals have been bed fellows since 1945. So often the two get conflated.
Allied yes, but not the same.
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 20
th, 2014 at 9:06am:
I am anti privatisation and pro govt enterprise because I believe that in comparison private enterprise is less innovative, less efficient, produces shoddy goods and services, conducts itself far more destructively, is incredibly wasteful and unaccountable and often is highly dependent on govt welfare in the form of govt handouts, lower tax rates and copious tax lurks.
You believe wrongly then.
Innovation, efficiency, quality of product & service
are all born from competition. If a business falls down on any one of these factors it will suffer financiallly.
Oh here we go. You read that BS on the barn wall and so it must be right. "Four legs good, two legs baaahhhhhdd". Competition is incredibly wasteful and counter-productive. Why do you think the first thing they tell you when you join any business organisation is that "There is no I in team". Because they know that co-operation and teamwork is what has made the human race so successful.
Govt organisations don't (normally) have competition to worry about so they are naturally inefficient. The exception would be war time
and space travel, sending people to the moon, inventing the internet, GPS, wifi, running schools, hospitals, building roads, dams for centuries. We could go on for ever
when competition is replaced by necessity by the survival of the fittest. The laziest of socialists may even chip in if their arse is on the line.
Quote:is incredibly wasteful and unaccountable and often is highly dependent on govt welfare in the form of govt handouts, lower tax rates and copious tax lurks
That's ridiculous, no business that is innovative, efficient and has quality products & services will require any govt assistance.
Ohh that's crap. Business (big and small) is constantly on the take in this country. Ask your average PAYE tax payer what deductions he can claim each year compared to business (its scandalous) and that's not counting lower tax rates and the way they fiddle the GST, and fudging on their employee's pay and conditions
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 20
th, 2014 at 9:06am:
My view is that although you personally will spend your money much better than any Government will, businesses, especially since they're unaccountable to the rest of us, will always spend their money more wastefully then govts, only of course they can hide it better.
Business is accountable to its shareholders.
Oh this is the biggest furffy of them all. As the sharholders association what they think of the BS claim. Sharholders have very little power to pull their companies into line and its a constant source of complaint because the waste, the exorbitant executive salaries and the fraud goes on constantly and the shareholders can do little more then complain about it.
If it wastes money the shareholders pull out and the business fails. A business will therefore be much more mindful of costs than any Govt organisation.
Quote:I believe that in comparison private enterprise........conducts itself far more destructively,
Yes I'll give you that one. Business won't really give a rat's what damage it does unless of course it effects its bottom line.
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 20
th, 2014 at 9:06am:
We want something, we have to work for it
Im gakld we can agree on something
Not socialists. Somebody else works for it .