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Question: Should we invest in a blue water navy?

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« Created by: Pantheon on: Nov 19th, 2013 at 10:17pm »

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Pantheon
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Blue water navy?
Nov 19th, 2013 at 10:17pm
 
Should Australia invest (in the long run) in a blue water navy?

Other middle powers are developing theirs and it seems we are falling behind, what are they seeing and we are not.
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Reply #1 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 8:20am
 
Errr, we already have one, Ahovking.  Just in case you hadn't noticed all those big, grey ships which are designed for oceanic combat and have oceanic ranges....
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Reply #2 - Nov 21st, 2013 at 10:53am
 
Australia has a Blue Water navy - even our Mine Coastal Hunters leave the Littoral waters and continental shelf of our nation and travel the Pacific. 

The fact that Anzac and Adelaide Class frigates participate in UN Sanctions off Iraq for over 2 decades indicates a blue water capability.

The two big themes in international navies at the movement are:

1) defending territorial claims and protecting commercial shipping through the seasonal openings in the Arctic. e.g. Ice breakers, strengthened hull warships and submarines

2)The second is Littoral Warfare via Littoral Combat type ships to get into the clutter of the littorals and engage brown water and land based targets and avoid sea mines.

Potentially a third is the emerging widespread world wide fleet of hunter killer conventional submarines that use fuel cells or Air Independent Propulsion, are very quiet and are able to sneak up on even the most sophisticated SSN such as USN Virginia and UK Astute. How to detect and destroy them is the issue!
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Reply #3 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 8:44am
 
Good luck trying to detect one of Britain's huge new Astute-class hunter-killers. Not only are they covered in stealth tiles making them virtually undetectable by radar or sonar, they each make the noise of a baby dolphin, despite their size. Don't even bother looking out for their periscopes either. To avoid detection their periscopes are able to break the surface of the water for just a few seconds, and then they relay 360 degree pictures of the surface to hi-def screens in the ops rooms. The subs will also be able to destroy targets in North Africa whilst sitting pretty in Portsmouth Harbour.
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