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Nov 4th, 2013 at 3:12pm
 
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Anthony Bergin and Anthony Press’ recent post ’Defence and Climate Change‘ is right on the money. Defence needs to do more than it’s already doing to prepare the ADF to face the challenges of a warming planet. All of the authors’ recommendations should be taken on board. But I fear that Bergin and Press don’t go far enough in their post.

A warming climate and shifts in rainfall patterns are only part of the challenge that has begun to transform our planet. In fact, there’s nothing new about the climate changing—its documentation in the historical, anthropological and geologic record is widespread and should convince all of its existence. Its novelty is only in the eyes of our current generation whose memory doesn’t extend far enough into the past.

The greatest danger posed by climate change isn’t the warming or the changes in rainfall patterns. Rather it’s the effect these events will have on the fabric of society. The risks of climate change must be seen as a two-step process. First are the changes in the existing parameters of the physical world to which humanity has adapted. As these changes occur societies must adapt to the new environment. This has happened many times in the past in previous climate change events. Those societies that manage to adapt survive. Those that do not, don’t.

As I’ve written in the Small Wars Journal, humanity is on the cusp of a revolution that will have effects as great—if not greater—than those experienced in the past. As the effects of climate change take hold, societies will come under great pressure. Rising sea levels, shifting rainfall patterns and the acidification of oceans will all affect humanity’s access to resources, particularly those of food and water. The fabric holding some societies together will tear, resulting in chaos, war and the mass migration of desperate people.

Not only will climate change spark more wars, these will be more vicious than those we’ve come to know. In recent years the term ‘limited war’ has been much in vogue to describe wars that from some perspectives are less dangerous or perhaps ‘discretionary’. Unfortunately, the wars of the future are likely to be struggles for survival as societies seek the resources they need to exist, but can no longer provide for themselves due to reductions in the carrying capacity of their lands as a result of climate change.

In such a future, the primary mission for defence must remain warfighting. Australia will need a robust and resilient ADF to safeguard the nation in this more violent future. As Bergin and Press note, this resilience will best be secured by a whole-of-government response, of which Defence is just one lever. But, as is the case now, much of the ‘work’ will only be able to be done by the soldiers, sailors, airmen and airwomen of the ADF. I hope they’re ready.


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Re: Defence and climate change:
Reply #1 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 5:58pm
 
Our Prime Minister, the Mad Monk has declared Climate Change "crap!"

Who are you to doubt your command-in-chief?  Stand to attention, salute him!  Salute the flag!  Salute the Queen!  Left-turn!  Quick March!  Eyes Right! Left! Right! Left! Right!

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Reply #2 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 6:43pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 5:58pm:
Our Prime Minister, the Mad Monk has declared Climate Change "crap!"

Who are you to doubt your command-in-chief?  Stand to attention, salute him!  Salute the flag!  Salute the Queen!  Left-turn!  Quick March!  Eyes Right! Left! Right! Left! Right!

Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy



bugger you're stupid, stop watching too many amercan movies and thinking that what you're watching is real.  Grin


Here's a hint to recognise just how stupid you are; the ADF does not have a Comander In Chief and if we did it would not be the PM.


Personally I blame the public schools for letting morons eat lead paint and move up a grade while still  remaining totally clueless.


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Reply #3 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 9:52am
 
What's wrong?  Can't take a joke?   So, you denying our Great and Glorious Leader, the Mad Monk didn't proclaim that Climate Change doesn't exist?

So, if Climate Change doesn't exist and therefore won't be happening, why does our super powerful military-industrial machine have to prepare for it?

You really are quite silly!  No thinking going on in your noggin!  Like a good little soldier you can't or won't see the contradictions, you'll just do as your told!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 10:01am
 
|dev|null wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 9:52am:
What's wrong?  Can't take a joke?   So, you denying our Great and Glorious Leader, the Mad Monk didn't proclaim that Climate Change doesn't exist?

So, if Climate Change doesn't exist and therefore won't be happening, why does our super powerful military-industrial machine have to prepare for it?
You really are quite silly!  No thinking going on in your noggin!  Like a good little soldier you can't or won't see the contradictions, you'll just do as your told!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy




Never even mentioned climate change ya retard.  Grin


Your reading and comprehension skills are only marginally better than a chimp.


Get a primary school graduate to read it out loud to you before you comment, Einstein.  Grin  Grin


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Re: Defence and climate change:
Reply #5 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 1:08pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 10:01am:
|dev|null wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 9:52am:
What's wrong?  Can't take a joke?   So, you denying our Great and Glorious Leader, the Mad Monk didn't proclaim that Climate Change doesn't exist?

So, if Climate Change doesn't exist and therefore won't be happening, why does our super powerful military-industrial machine have to prepare for it?
You really are quite silly!  No thinking going on in your noggin!  Like a good little soldier you can't or won't see the contradictions, you'll just do as your told!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy




Never even mentioned climate change ya retard.  Grin


Yet the thread is all about it...   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

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Your reading and comprehension skills are only marginally better than a chimp.


Why 'cause I'm sticking to the topic and you aren't?   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy

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Get a primary school graduate to read it out loud to you before you comment, Einstein.  Grin  Grin


Yes, I am an Einstein.  I'm presently working on a device to remove all the idiots from this continuum.  Can I test it on you?   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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Reply #6 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 1:13pm
 
Warning, please get back to topic or this topic will be locked.
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Reply #7 - Nov 5th, 2013 at 2:19pm
 
Pantheon wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 1:13pm:
Warning, please get back to topic or this topic will be locked.


I am.  I made a cogent point - why should we waste resources preparing for something our Prime Minister has declared does not exist?

Now, either he's bullshitting or we're being advised to prepare for something that will never happen.  Which is it?

BigOl64 has decided to resort to ad hominem and insult rather than address the point I've made in an amusing manner.   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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Re: Defence and climate change:
Reply #8 - Nov 6th, 2013 at 6:45am
 
|dev|null wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 2:19pm:
Pantheon wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 1:13pm:
Warning, please get back to topic or this topic will be locked.


I am.  I made a cogent point - why should we waste resources preparing for something our Prime Minister has declared does not exist?

Now, either he's bullshitting or we're being advised to prepare for something that will never happen.  Which is it?

BigOl64 has decided to resort to ad hominem and insult rather than address the point I've made in an amusing manner.   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin




1. Your point was not Cogent or amusing, you are a troll in constant need of attention, I treat you with the contempt you so richly deserve.

2. Every post you send reflects the angry moron sitting in their parent's lounge room railing against a world they failed to understand.

3. I wouldn't accuse others of ad hominum attacks if I were you, when that is always your first resort for any reply, you only need to scroll down to prove your own hypocracy.

4. Now be a good little boy and be quiet for a while, the adults might want to talk for a change.


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Reply #9 - Nov 6th, 2013 at 7:15am
 
Pantheon wrote on Nov 5th, 2013 at 1:13pm:
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I would prefer you lock HBs other troll threads and ban the little sh1t from this board permently; trolling is a bannable offence here


But allowing that idiot to spew vile crap all over the place  is what you want for the defence thread, then so be it.


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Reply #10 - Nov 6th, 2013 at 10:53am
 
Locked Due to lack of discussion resulting in trolling/off topic.

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