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Do we really need a defence force?
Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

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Reply #1 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:44pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Stop sniffing glue!

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Old Codger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 547 Melbourne. Gender:	Re: Do we really need a defence force? Reply #2 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 2:03pm Looks like it not only sends you blind, it sends you stupid! OC
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Reply #3 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 2:30pm

Asking the question again for the sake of @Hot Breath

"Why do we need a defence force, when there is no real short term or long term threat to Australia? or at lest greatly shrink the ADF size." ii

(please note, i'm in favor of our ADF and in favor of increasing its size, i'm repeating the question more clearly so other can answer it more easily)

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Reply #4 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 3:32pm

Big Dave wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Stop sniffing glue!

Never sniffed glue. I leave that to losers. Cheesy

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"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #5 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:17pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Big Dave wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Stop sniffing glue!

Never sniffed glue. I leave that to losers. Cheesy

We'd all be losers if we had no army and somebody decided to attack our country.

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Reply #6 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:27pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Congratulations, you have overtaken booby as the least intellegent poster on the defence thread. I thought it couldn't be done but you have left him dead in his tracks with this monument to total ignorance.

Maybe when school holidays are over you can go converse with like minded children, thinking about 'world peace' just like the supermodels and vapid beauty pagent contestants do. Grin

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Reply #7 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:38pm

Big Dave wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Big Dave wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Stop sniffing glue!

Never sniffed glue. I leave that to losers. Cheesy

We'd all be losers if we had no army and somebody decided to attack our country.

1. We have no enemies; The only threats we face are from Terrorists and they can be handled by the Police.

2. We are advantageously located; We are at the Art's End of the Earth, no one has the means to mount an attack on us.

3. We have good relations with all our neighbours and most of the world (relates back to point 1);

So, who is going to attack us? Why should they? We are always willing to sell anything we have that they may want. Cheesy

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #8 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:39pm

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Congratulations, you have overtaken booby as the least intellegent poster on the defence thread. I thought it couldn't be done but you have left him dead in his tracks with this monument to total ignorance.

Maybe when school holidays are over you can go converse with like minded children, thinking about 'world peace' just like the supermodels and vapid beauty pagent contestants do. Grin

Good ad hominem response! Really shows you're willing to discuss the issue! Cheesy

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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Reply #9 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 5:04pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

Big Dave wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Big Dave wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Stop sniffing glue!

Never sniffed glue. I leave that to losers. Cheesy

We'd all be losers if we had no army and somebody decided to attack our country.

1. We have no enemies; The only threats we face are from Terrorists and they can be handled by the Police.

2. We are advantageously located; We are at the Art's End of the Earth, no one has the means to mount an attack on us.

3. We have good relations with all our neighbours and most of the world (relates back to point 1);

So, who is going to attack us? Why should they? We are always willing to sell anything we have that they may want. Cheesy

At the beginning of the 20th century who would of thought the world would go through 2 world wars. It's a changeable world. Do we pacify our country with the risk of being unprepared when the next big war happens. And it will happen.

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Old Codger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 547 Melbourne. Gender:	Re: Do we really need a defence force? Reply #10 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 5:10pm The strong tribe ALWAYS end up taking over the weak tribe.
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Reply #11 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 6:13pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Congratulations, you have overtaken booby as the least intellegent poster on the defence thread. I thought it couldn't be done but you have left him dead in his tracks with this monument to total ignorance.

Maybe when school holidays are over you can go converse with like minded children, thinking about 'world peace' just like the supermodels and vapid beauty pagent contestants do. Grin

Good ad hominem response! Really shows you're willing to discuss the issue! Cheesy

Nothing of any substance to discuss, just moronic trolling as you always do on this board. Ad hominum is all you deserve, start presenting a rational valid argument, Ill discuss it with you. Until then, this is what you get from an ex-servicemen .... nothing but contempt

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Reply #12 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 6:42pm

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 6:13pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Do we really need a defence force?

We are so far from anybody that they'd die before they even got here! We are friendly with everybody (unless the Mad Monk antagonises everybody!) What do we have to worry about that we need to fear our position in the world.

New Zealand has shown the way. Get rid of all the petty Hitlers in their storm trooper uniforms. Save squillions and instead spend it on the people who matter, the citizens of Australia. Sell of all the toys the boys have been using and put them to work doing something useful. Cheesy

Congratulations, you have overtaken booby as the least intellegent poster on the defence thread. I thought it couldn't be done but you have left him dead in his tracks with this monument to total ignorance.

Maybe when school holidays are over you can go converse with like minded children, thinking about 'world peace' just like the supermodels and vapid beauty pagent contestants do. Grin

Good ad hominem response! Really shows you're willing to discuss the issue! Cheesy

Nothing of any substance to discuss, just moronic trolling as you always do on this board. Ad hominum is all you deserve, start presenting a rational valid argument, Ill discuss it with you. Until then, this is what you get from an ex-servicemen .... nothing but contempt

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 77082 Gender:	Re: Do we really need a defence force? Reply #13 - Oct 16^th, 2013 at 9:22pm Do we really need a defence force? It's like insurance ... if you have it you'll most likely never use it but you can bet that as soon as you decide to go without, the house burns down. So my answer is Yes, we really need one.
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Reply #14 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 11:23am

We have an insurance policy already, its called ANZUS. We should take out another with the new rising superpower, our largest trading partner, the PRC.

We don't need a defence force, we need a beefed up police force, a Gendarmie. One that can deal with the occasional criminal incidents that require something more than the Constable on the Beat. The rest of the time we just don't need super fighters, tanks, warships, etc. They exist purely to stroke the egos of the politicians and the generals! Cheesy

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