I now have to admit that I got it wrong.

Jesus was not talking about himself but instead
he was telling a parable that had a King in it.
It was Brian who misled me.
I trusted him because he has a doctor of divinity so
that he was a Bible scholar and knew what he was talking about.



https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2019&version=NIV



The Parable of the Ten Minas

11 While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once.

12 He said: “A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return.

13 So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a] ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’

14 “But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We don’t want this man to be our king.’

15 “He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

16 “The first one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned ten more.’

17 “‘Well done, my good servant!’ his master replied. ‘Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.’

18 “The second came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned five more.’

19 “His master answered, ‘You take charge of five cities.’

20 “Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’

22 “His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’

24 “Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’

25 “‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’

26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away.

27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2021 at 11:11pm:

No they weren't.

It is a misunderstanding of the Greek word, lestes. At a long stretch it could mean thieves, but the Greek word for plain thieves is kleptes. The word, lestes is used when referring to dangerous bandits (i.e. insurrectionist).

This is still not qualitatively the same as chapter 9 of the Quran, for the following reasons:

1) it refers to apostates, not the infidels more broadly

2) it refers at length to diligent investigation, not wholesale slaughter

3) verse 12 (preceding what you quoted) also appears to make it a reference to Israel

4) several aspects of Deut 13 are also directly challenged by Jesus, for example when he said let he who is without sin cast the first stone, so it would also be unreasonable to conclude that the Bible requires Christians to do this

Have you read chapter 9?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469837313

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:44am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:24am:



Jesus asked us to follow the laws of the Old Testament.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:17pm:

That's actually true.

However, Jesus, himself, was a Jew not a Christian.

The Christian movement was established by Paul 20 years after the death of Jesus and the New Testament was not written by followers of Jesus.