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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #435 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia, Xenophobia, anti-Immigrants, anti-Asylum Seekers, etc., etc.  Oh, and anti-Brian!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


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Reply #436 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:35pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia, Xenophobia, anti-Immigrants, anti-Asylum Seekers, etc., etc.  Oh, and anti-Brian!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Islamophobia...  nope, not me, even though I do believe that many Muslims in Australia are a problem now and will be in the future.

Xenophobia... nope, however there are some people from races and cultures that I find are incompatible with the Australian way of life.

anti-Immigrants...  nope, but I do prefer the mix from the early sixties, IMO they were more harmonious.

anti-Asylum Seekers... nope, but I prefer them to come in the right way with passports or id if possible.

etc., etc.  really...?  Got nothing eh...  how usual for you.  Roll Eyes

Oh, and anti-Brian!  Nope, even though I find bwian very foolish about many things I do agree with him about some or should I say he agrees with me?  Don't believe me...  ask him.
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #437 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:55pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia



What do you LIKE about Islam, Titties?

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Reply #438 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:05pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:35pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia, Xenophobia, anti-Immigrants, anti-Asylum Seekers, etc., etc.  Oh, and anti-Brian!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Islamophobia...  nope, not me, even though I do believe that many Muslims in Australia are a problem now and will be in the future.

Xenophobia... nope, however there are some people from races and cultures that I find are incompatible with the Australian way of life.

anti-Immigrants...  nope, but I do prefer the mix from the early sixties, IMO they were more harmonious.

anti-Asylum Seekers... nope, but I prefer them to come in the right way with passports or id if possible.

etc., etc.  really...?  Got nothing eh...  how usual for you.  Roll Eyes

Oh, and anti-Brian!  Nope, even though I find bwian very foolish about many things I do agree with him about some or should I say he agrees with me?  Don't believe me...  ask him.



I doubt it.  Thanks though for actually proving you're all those things.  You're afraid of Muslims and foreigners.  The fact that you support Hanson is sufficient proof that you're anti-Immigrant.  Perhaps I should just add anti-Asian?   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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Reply #439 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:07pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:55pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia



What do you LIKE about Islam, Titties?


Why do I have to like it?  I tolerate it.  I like most Muslims that I've met, they tend to be great people.

You however habitually declare your hatred for all Muslims at every opportunity!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #440 - Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:14pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:05pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:35pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia, Xenophobia, anti-Immigrants, anti-Asylum Seekers, etc., etc.  Oh, and anti-Brian!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Islamophobia...  nope, not me, even though I do believe that many Muslims in Australia are a problem now and will be in the future.

Xenophobia... nope, however there are some people from races and cultures that I find are incompatible with the Australian way of life.

anti-Immigrants...  nope, but I do prefer the mix from the early sixties, IMO they were more harmonious.

anti-Asylum Seekers... nope, but I prefer them to come in the right way with passports or id if possible.

etc., etc.  really...?  Got nothing eh...  how usual for you.  Roll Eyes

Oh, and anti-Brian!  Nope, even though I find bwian very foolish about many things I do agree with him about some or should I say he agrees with me?  Don't believe me...  ask him.



I doubt it.  Thanks though for actually proving you're all those things.  You're afraid of Muslims and foreigners.  The fact that you support Hanson is sufficient proof that you're anti-Immigrant.  Perhaps I should just add anti-Asian?   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin




I don't like moslems, coz,
1/ moslems are infidels, and because,
2/ moslems are members of a death cult.

Are those legitimate reasons for not liking someone ?

Liars, and, murderers.








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kuffar = = infidel = = a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth = = liar
= = MOSLEM


"Dear muslim, YOU are the kuffar"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229682951/0#0
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You who embrace ISLAM, your own lies and deception, have become a witness against you, before God......

"kuffar" = = "...is an Arabic word meaning.....[an unbeliever] a person....who hides, denies, or covers the truth."










DEATH CULT


IMAGE...
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Sydney CBD, 2012, members of the moslem DEATH CULT,
demanding the right to exercise their 'religious freedom'.
Members of the moslem DEATH CULT, demanding the right to 'practise their religion'.
Members of the moslem DEATH CULT, proclaiming their 'religious' right to murder persons [who are not moslems], because they 'offend' and 'insult' moslems, by refusing to believe as they [moslems] believe.






"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #441 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:36pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:05pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:35pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia, Xenophobia, anti-Immigrants, anti-Asylum Seekers, etc., etc.  Oh, and anti-Brian!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Islamophobia...  nope, not me, even though I do believe that many Muslims in Australia are a problem now and will be in the future.

Xenophobia... nope, however there are some people from races and cultures that I find are incompatible with the Australian way of life.

anti-Immigrants...  nope, but I do prefer the mix from the early sixties, IMO they were more harmonious.

anti-Asylum Seekers... nope, but I prefer them to come in the right way with passports or id if possible.

etc., etc.  really...?  Got nothing eh...  how usual for you.  Roll Eyes

Oh, and anti-Brian!  Nope, even though I find bwian very foolish about many things I do agree with him about some or should I say he agrees with me?  Don't believe me...  ask him.



I doubt it.  Thanks though for actually proving you're all those things.  You're afraid of Muslims and foreigners.  The fact that you support Hanson is sufficient proof that you're anti-Immigrant.  Perhaps I should just add anti-Asian?   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

Sorry Jnr...  but in truth all that's happened is you've proven what a mindless bigot you are and that you have very little English comprehension skills...
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #442 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:16pm
 
Grendel wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:35pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia, Xenophobia, anti-Immigrants, anti-Asylum Seekers, etc., etc.  Oh, and anti-Brian!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Islamophobia...  nope, not me, even though I do believe that many Muslims in Australia are a problem now and will be in the future.

Xenophobia... nope, however there are some people from races and cultures that I find are incompatible with the Australian way of life.

anti-Immigrants...  nope, but I do prefer the mix from the early sixties, IMO they were more harmonious.

anti-Asylum Seekers... nope, but I prefer them to come in the right way with passports or id if possible.

etc., etc.  really...?  Got nothing eh...  how usual for you.  Roll Eyes

Oh, and anti-Brian!  Nope, even though I find bwian very foolish about many things I do agree with him about some or should I say he agrees with me?  Don't believe me...  ask him.



You're  a bit like a broken two-bob watch, Beowulf.  Wink

Hot Breath, stop playing with him.  You're just giving him oxygen.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #443 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:28pm
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:14pm:
I don't like moslems, coz,
1/ moslems are infidels, and because,
2/ moslems are members of a death cult.

Are those legitimate reasons for not liking someone ?

Liars, and, murderers.


Nope, no bigotry there, none at all, Yadda!   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So, is this Muslim a "liar and murderer"?

...

Or how about this one?

...

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A poll by the Pew Research Center conducted last year showed that abuse of Muslims by US airport security, law enforcement officers, and others has increased considerably since American Muslims were first polled in 2007.

Almost 43 percent of American Muslims reported experiencing harassment in 2010, a three percent increase in the number reported in 2007.

[Source]

Harassment fuelled by attitudes like your bigotry, Yadda.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #444 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 9:23pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:07pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:55pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia



What do you LIKE about Islam, Titties?


Why do I have to like it?  I tolerate it.  I like most Muslims that I've met, they tend to be great people.

You however habitually declare your hatred for all Muslims at every opportunity!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy



I talk about Islam, you switch to Muslims.
I object to Islam the way I object to fascism, communism, Marxism.


These are not biological categories but freely chosen ethical, ideological positions.

You do not HAVE to be a Muslim or a fascist or a communist, Jehovah's Witness, Catholic, Anglican, atheist, Green, Labor or Liberal.




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Reply #445 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 9:44pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:28pm:
Yadda wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:14pm:
I don't like moslems, coz,
1/ moslems are infidels, and because,
2/ moslems are members of a death cult.

Are those legitimate reasons for not liking someone ?

Liars, and, murderers.


Nope, no bigotry there, none at all, Yadda!   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So, is this Muslim a "liar and murderer"?

http://confessionsofamuslimmommaholic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/muslim_kids...

Or how about this one?

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20120511/jammas.hussain20120511202308543.jpg

Quote:
A poll by the Pew Research Center conducted last year showed that abuse of Muslims by US airport security, law enforcement officers, and others has increased considerably since American Muslims were first polled in 2007.

Almost 43 percent of American Muslims reported experiencing harassment in 2010, a three percent increase in the number reported in 2007.

[Source]

Harassment fuelled by attitudes like your bigotry, Yadda.  Roll Eyes




brian,

Take the example of salt-water crocodiles.

Are little salt-water crocodiles dangerous ?

Little salt-water crocodiles may be cute, and you can handle them, carefully, when they are still 20 cm long.

But they are still dangerous, and they can still take a finger off.

But no worries.




But when they are grown to be adult salt-water crocodiles, no matter ho much you may have tried to domesticate them, a salt-water crocodile will try to kill you, if you do not respect,
......HOW DANGEROUS IT IS.



Trying to have a relationship with a moslem, is like trying to have a relationship with a salt-water crocodile, imo.

And in trying to accommodate ISLAM/moslems [within a non-moslem host society], it is as though, we are trying to 'domesticate' salt-water crocodiles.

Any sensible person would realise [have the common sense to know], that seeking to change or alter the nature of a salt-water crocodile is impossible.

The nature of a salt-water crocodile, precludes its 'domestication'.







THE KORAN....

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:"
Koran 003.028


"O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"
Koran 004.144


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."

Koran 5.51


"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101


"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends.....offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76






THE HADITH....

"The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.053


"The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.054
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #446 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 9:55pm
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 9:44pm:
brian,

Take the example of salt-water crocodiles.

Are little salt-water crocodiles dangerous ?

Little salt-water crocodiles may be cute, and you can handle them, carefully, when they are still 20 cm long.

But they are still dangerous, and they can still take a finger off.

But no worries.




But when they are grown to be adult salt-water crocodiles, no matter ho much you may have tried to domesticate them, a salt-water crocodile will try to kill you, if you do not respect,
......HOW DANGEROUS IT IS.



Trying to have a relationship with a moslem, is like trying to have a relationship with a salt-water crocodile, imo.

And in trying to accommodate ISLAM/moslems [within a non-moslem host society], it is as though, we are trying to 'domesticate' salt-water crocodiles.

Any sensible person would realise [have the common sense to know], that seeking to change or alter the nature of a salt-water crocodile is impossible.

The nature of a salt-water crocodile, precludes its 'domestication'.







brian,

Moslems, themselves, chose to be hostile towards those who are not inside their own [moslem] 'camp'.

Just because - FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN - we are not moslems.



Quote:

Here, for example, are two very illuminating passages from the canonical Life of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq, as translated by A. Guillaume, and a third passage, from the earliest known Muslim historian.

Ishaq: 204 - "'Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?' 'Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'"

Ishaq:231 - "Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders."

And here is Al-Tabari, a very early Muslim historian, in book 9, chapter or section 69, reporting words that Muslims believe to have been said by Mohammed himself - "Killing infidels is a small matter to us".

These texts are not fossils from a distant past. They are not dead letters. They are still 'live' and carry tremendous weight in the imagination and practice of many Muslims around the world.
...DDA




Google it.



n.b.
"Killing infidels is a small matter to us"

Mohammed - the prophet of the religion of peace dismembered body parts.








"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29





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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #447 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 9:55pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:28pm:
Yadda wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 7:14pm:
I don't like moslems, coz,
1/ moslems are infidels, and because,
2/ moslems are members of a death cult.

Are those legitimate reasons for not liking someone ?

Liars, and, murderers.


Nope, no bigotry there, none at all, Yadda!   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So, is this Muslim a "liar and murderer"?

http://confessionsofamuslimmommaholic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/muslim_kids...

No.

He is a submissive-in-training, like his dear papa next to him, practicing submission. Do you practice submission, Brain?



I do not want to ever be required to do that and I do not want my sons to ever be required to do that.
But if Islam had it's way, that is exactly what I and my descendants would be required to do.

You can respect that but I say foock that, laddie. Stick it up yer jumper.





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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #448 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 10:00pm
 


brian = = a spineless, uncritical, apologist for the followers of Mohammed.







DEATH CULT



Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.



"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260






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So, what was so wrong with Mohammed ?

Nothing.

And, moslems are not followers of Mohammed.        Tongue

Just ask brian.            Tongue

brian will tell you.

brian knows some really, really, nice moslems,
.....moslems who don't even know who that fellow Mohammed is.            Tongue



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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #449 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 10:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 6:16pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 9:35pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 5th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Dec 3rd, 2013 at 7:04pm:
[quote author=Hot_Breath link=1379233325/433#433 date=1386041187]Nah, Grendel, it's a lot more fun to mock you with your prejudices and your claims to moral superiority when all you do is troll.  Got any more silly cartoons for us?  If that is your level of debate, sheesh!     Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

My prejudices?

Islamophobia, Xenophobia, anti-Immigrants, anti-Asylum Seekers, etc., etc.  Oh, and anti-Brian!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Islamophobia...  nope, not me, even though I do believe that many Muslims in Australia are a problem now and will be in the future.

Xenophobia... nope, however there are some people from races and cultures that I find are incompatible with the Australian way of life.

anti-Immigrants...  nope, but I do prefer the mix from the early sixties, IMO they were more harmonious.

anti-Asylum Seekers... nope, but I prefer them to come in the right way with passports or id if possible.

etc., etc.  really...?  Got nothing eh...  how usual for you.  Roll Eyes

Oh, and anti-Brian!  Nope, even though I find bwian very foolish about many things I do agree with him about some or should I say he agrees with me?  Don't believe me...  ask him.



You're  a bit like a broken two-bob watch, Beowulf.  Wink

Hot Breath, stop playing with him.  You're just giving him oxygen.  Roll Eyes

Do wank on bwian seems it's all you are good for...  time for you to change sock draws isn't it?
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