freediver wrote on Sep 15
th, 2013 at 6:26pm:
Quote:Ultimately though, does it matter?
If it means that even progressive Muslims such as yourself attempt to justify child brides, then yes it does.
Quote:I am not interested in preventing fair criticism of Islam and Muslims.
As soon as you decide it is unfair, you attempt to dictate to everyone what they can and cannot debate with your ad hominems, deflections and various spineless apologetics. The only thing you won;t do is discuss the topic at hand.
Unlike you, I recognise both my limitations and my ignorance. However, I do recognise that people and institutions deserve respect and a fair chance, FD. When you are told you're wrong by those whom are more knowledgeable, you refuse to accept alternative viewpoints and explanations and continue on with your bigotry and Islamophobia.
If you don't like your arguments being correctly identified as such, prove to us you're not a bigot or an Islamophobe - widen your focus. You either can't or won't from what I've observed. That you take me to task for saying that you should give people are fair shake merely shows how prejudiced you are. Your characterisation of anybody who says, "fair go!" as a "limp-wristed apologist" merely shows how deep your hatred of all things Islam and Muslim goes.
Quote: Quote:Note the key word which is missing from your lexicon, BV as it is from so many here - "fair".
You still haven't actually explained how you apply this concept to an ideology, other to insert your head into your rectum and insist that a religion is not an ideology.
I must be really annoying you with my obstinate defence of giving people and institutions a fair go, FD 'cause you're attacking me personally.
You do realise that resorting to ad hominem indicates you've lost the debate?
Quote: Quote:If something is shown to be wrong then you should stop harping on it but you don't, you just keep repeating lies and believing the absolute worse about Muslims, automatically. That is bigotry, BV.
You constantly make up stories about me to avoid addressing the issue.
You're BV? How interesting, FD.
I don't "make up stories", I point out where your views lead. If you don't like it, change your views, FD. Stop writing stuff that makes me think you're a bigot and an Islamophobe.
Quote: Apparently creating elaborate fantasies to explain why I say the things I say is much easier than actually addressing what I say.
I am addressing it, FD. It appears you don't like the result of what you're typing.
Quote:Your errors have been pointed out to you countless times, but you just keep regurgitating it. I wouldn;t call it bigotry though. It is more about spineless, mindless apologetics.
Yeah, sure, FD, sure, I suppose you lying to yourself helps you sleep at night.
Quote: Quote:I am unsure who "King Leer" is or what his relationship to Islam is, FD. Another red herring or is this the code you use to communicate with your fellow bigots with?
Quote: [quote]Show me a Muslim who doesn't continually question themselves and their beliefs, FD.
You first Brian. Show me a Muslim who does not think Muhammed is an eternal example to all mankind.
I could introduce you to my best mate, Abdul. We served together for about 6 years in the Army. He is Turkish Cypriot by birth. Would you like to meet him?
Quote: Quote:As has been indicated many times, Muslims do not worship Mohammed.
Red herring.
Nope, fact. You appear unable to accept that for some reason, FD. Now, what was that definition of "bigot" again?