There is no reason why we can't have a section on Judaism. I have even started a few threads about Jews myself. Did you know that they are always to blame for conflict? I wonder which way Brian would bend...

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But if a Muslim said it you would pretend it never happened, right? Because Muslims are above the Jews on your list of people to apologise for?

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 1:24pm:


Got it wrong, all deserve to be treated fairly, FD.   Do you think some to be treated unfairly merely through guilt by association?

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 1:43pm:


Some or all Muslims, FD?  See what I mean about stereotyping?   

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I mean by condemning them all because of the actions of a few.   

Do you think all Muslims do these things?  YES/NO

Your language indicates you do IMO.

True Colours wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 12:40pm:

wtf!?
Islam today is equivalent to fascism.

Judaism is merely philosophy at most, theology, not IDEOLOGY - where women are repressed, people are killed in the name of some pedophile.

Seriously, I don't know of many Jewish who would follow religion so blindly these days, most Jews (that I know) are interested in science, innovation, technology, and at most theology: but not on a extremist level. they do not stone to death anymore, there is nothing radical about the majority of Jewish, which you can not say about majority of muslims.
Something like comparing dingo's vs Labradors: most dingoes are vicious and dangerous animals, where only tiny minority happens to be friendly 'by lack', and it is the other way around with Labradors: intelligent and kind, and only a tiny odd minority.
Most muslim believers are falling backwards pre-ancient egypt, it's scary and should not be avoided in Australia. We don't want it here, we don't need it here!
Fascism is not tolerated.

Torpedo wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 2:13pm:


According to whom?  You?  And your expertise on the issue is?

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You obviously know very little about Judaism, particularly WRT to it's extreme, orthodox groups or it's political ideology of Zionism.  You also seem to have missed the long running history of Israeli oppression of the Palestinians or even the Israeli use of terrorism to further it's political ideals...

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I take it that you assume the reverse about the majority of Muslims.   I wonder why do you believe that?  Do you have any evidence to back your claims or is it merely blind prejudice (again)? 

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14^th, 2013 at 11:46pm:


You want a special deal for Islam where it cannot be criticised, you are a hypocrite who will bag all religions except Islam.

Is this the Islam you are so keen to defend with your "fair deal" nonsense, what about those who no longer believe in that bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit do they deserve a fair deal like article 18 of the Universal declaration of human rights?
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Since you are so keen to defend Islam what is a fair deal for a religion that kills-imprisons people for Apostasy,blasphemy,adultery and homsexuality in 2013, do you expect people to remain silent about a religion that kills people for thought crimes?

freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:


That is not the issue. The issue is what muslims consider the 'take-home' message about Muhammad. Your conclusion is that because (in your view) Muhammad was a warmongering misogynistic rapist pedophile, that all muslims therefore condone warmongering, misogyny, rape and pedophile - and even more than that, consider those things virtues.

Your problem is that you assume muslims accept that portrayal of Muhammad. Its what we call a logical fallacy.