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Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:30am

This has been going round in circles on the boycott halal thread for a while.

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 1:08pm:

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The throat is cut with a human hand.

Wouldn't it be better to use a knife? I'm sure they had those in Muhammed's day.

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How about you concentrate on backing up your claim that halal slaughterhouses necessarily require discrimination in the workforce.

You are the one saying it Gandalf. You just don't understand it.

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Not when its a job that otherwise wouldn't be required.

It is still discrimination Gandalf. It would not be discrimination if anyone was allowed to cut the animal's throat in the approved manner. If the job can only be performed by a Muslim, that is discrimination.

Is the throat-slitter forbidden from doing any other useful tasks that would still be required in a non-halal slaughterhouse?

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Its only discrimination if you take an existing role that is non-discriminatory and replace that worker with a muslim only.

So if a company came up with a policy that all newly-created positions must be filled by non-Muslims so they could put anti-terrorism stickers on their food, you would not complain about it being discrimination?

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You need to demonstrate how a halal-slaughterhouse would say to an ordinary non-muslim worker - "we don't need you because your role is taken by a muslim only".

No I don't. This is obviously religious discrimination in the workplace.

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polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 3:41pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 1:08pm:

This is obviously religious discrimination in the workplace.

No non-muslim abbattoir worker is being told that their role, or the role they wish to fill can only be filled by a muslim.

It is not discrimination.

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 92366 Gender:	Re: Muslim-only jobs is not discrimination??? Reply #1 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:21pm Read your state's Discrimination Act, FD. It should have exemptions for religious and language-specific jobs. Kindly move this thread to Relationships, thanks Moderator. I come here to read all the wonderful threads about the great religion of Islam.
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Reply #2 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:24pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:21pm:

Read your state's Discrimination Act, FD.

It should have exemptions for religious and language-specific jobs.

Kindly move this thread to Relationships, thanks Moderator. I come here to read all the wonderful threads about the great religion of Islam.

That's fine, but the legislation still discriminates by not recognising my religion.

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Reply #3 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:08pm

... wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:24pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:21pm:

Read your state's Discrimination Act, FD.

It should have exemptions for religious and language-specific jobs.

Kindly move this thread to Relationships, thanks Moderator. I come here to read all the wonderful threads about the great religion of Islam.

That's fine, but the legislation still discriminates by not recognising my religion.

It certainly does - that tends to be the purpose of legislation; discriminating amongst things.

This is discriminating discrimination legislation.

Typical.

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Muslim-only jobs is not discrimination??? Reply #4 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:32pm Of course it is discrimination, as are Aboriginal only jobs, men/women only jobs and hetero/homosexual only jobs... Discrimination has become far more common since 'political correctness' started..
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Reply #5 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:31pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:21pm:

Read your state's Discrimination Act, FD.

It should have exemptions for religious and language-specific jobs.

Kindly move this thread to Relationships, thanks Moderator. I come here to read all the wonderful threads about the great religion of Islam.

Working in an abattoir is not a religious job. Hence my point that it is not a mosque.

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Reply #6 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:06pm

Are the retarded Islamophobe hypocrites worried about Jews being employed to slaughter kosher food in Australia?

From what I have heard, an abattoir only needs one Muslim worker to produce halal meat.

Freediver's scare-mongering about every employee at an abattoir being Muslim should be seen for what it is - a sick attempt to stir up hate.

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Reply #7 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:18pm

True Colours wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Are the retarded Islamophobe hypocrites worried about Jews being employed to slaughter kosher food in Australia?

From what I have heard, an abattoir only needs one Muslim worker to produce halal meat.

Freediver's scare-mongering about every employee at an abattoir being Muslim should be seen for what it is - a sick attempt to stir up hate.

Actually, an abattoir only needs one Muslim Cleric, to produce halal meat, as long as there's someone to oversee the process and say the prayers, it's all good. Exactly the same thing applies for Kosher too

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Muslim-only jobs is not discrimination??? Reply #8 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:19pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:32pm: hetero/homosexual only jobs... What jobs are for homosexuals only?
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Muslim-only jobs is not discrimination??? Reply #9 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:20pm ... wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:19pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:32pm: hetero/homosexual only jobs... What jobs are for homosexuals only? None that I specifically know of..but there is still the 'I only hire gay/straight' situation in the work force.
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Reply #10 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:09pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

... wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:19pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

hetero/homosexual only jobs...

What jobs are for homosexuals only? Huh

None that I specifically know of..but there is still the 'I only hire gay/straight' situation in the work force.

Employers need to seek exemption through the state legislative office/ombudsman, etc, to advertise and hire women, Aboriginals or hommers specifically.

It’s not hard to prove you need a woman to look up ladies’s clackers, Abos to persuade other Abos to go to school, or hommers to have sex with other hommers in your gay brothel.

Actually, I might be wrong with the last one. There’s no reason a straight chap can’t service a fellow macho man, eh Gizmo?

None that I specifically know of, anyway.

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Reply #11 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:24pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

... wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:19pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

hetero/homosexual only jobs...

What jobs are for homosexuals only? Huh

None that I specifically know of..but there is still the 'I only hire gay/straight' situation in the work force.

Employers need to seek exemption through the state legislative office/ombudsman, etc, to advertise and hire women, Aboriginals or hommers specifically.

It’s not hard to prove you need a woman to look up ladies’s clackers, Abos to persuade other Abos to go to school, or hommers to have sex with other hommers in your gay brothel.

Actually, I might be wrong with the last one. There’s no reason a straight chap can’t service a fellow macho man, eh Gizmo?

None that I specifically know of, anyway.

Well if that's what 'floats' your boat Karnal...

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 92366 Gender:	Re: Muslim-only jobs is not discrimination??? Reply #12 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:34pm Boat? Surely there’s nothing wrong with rowing around the lake on a lazy day in our striped blazers and straw hats, eh Gizmo? Actually, it’s more of a punt than a boat. Could we say a rough cut punt? I think we could. Nothing wrong with that, eh? I’m sure you’ll find it floats.
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Reply #13 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 9:23pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:34pm:

]Boat? Surely there’s nothing wrong with rowing around the lake on a lazy day in our striped blazers and straw hats, eh Gizmo? [/highlight]

Actually, it’s more of a punt than a boat. Could we say a rough cut punt?

I think we could. Nothing wrong with that, eh?

I’m sure you’ll find it floats.

Well if that is what makes you excited..

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Reply #14 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 9:46pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 8:34pm:

]Boat? Surely there’s nothing wrong with rowing around the lake on a lazy day in our striped blazers and straw hats, eh Gizmo? [/highlight]

Actually, it’s more of a punt than a boat. Could we say a rough cut punt?

I think we could. Nothing wrong with that, eh?

I’m sure you’ll find it floats.

Well if that is what makes you excited..

Excited? Goodness me, no. Nothing excites me more than a lovely hot cup of tea and a thinly sliced cucumber sandwitch.

I do find sucking cock and gulping down cum so dull by comparison, don’t you?

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