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Reply #120 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:49pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:46pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:20pm:
PZ547 wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:18pm:
A referendum will kiss carbon tax goodnight forever



good, then ask Abbott to hold one before he takes any action.


why? do you think the Greens or Labor would take the slightest notice of the result?  they have lost an election by a landslide and still refuse to repeal it. 


of course they will dopey .... have they ever refused to uphold the result of a referendum?


Referenda are ONLY for constitutional changes - not legislative ones.  there is no facility whatsoever to hold a binding plebiscite on legislation.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #121 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 5:19pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:48pm:
agreed other than the pedantic detail that federally we have NEVER had 4 years terms.



Really?
Maybe it just felt that way or those before had more political courage.

But yes whether Labor or Liberal they should be given time to govern & 3 years is not long enough.

With a good enough argument I'd probably even toy with 5
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Reply #122 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 5:24pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 5:19pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:48pm:
agreed other than the pedantic detail that federally we have NEVER had 4 years terms.



Really?
Maybe it just felt that way or those before had more political courage.

But yes whether Labor or Liberal they should be given time to govern & 3 years is not long enough.

With a good enough argument I'd probably even toy with 5


if we want 4 or 5 year terms - preferably fixed dates then I would want a recall facility. 5 years is along time with a corrupt or grossly incompetent govt.  The recall facility needs to be diffult to achieve but still possible.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #123 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 6:34pm
 
longweekend58

I would prefer 5 year terms and fixed election dates.

I have no idea why we tolerate political gamesmanship with elections.

In our political system there is nothing more important than letting the electorate chose government, especially overseas wankfests.

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Reply #124 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 7:46pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:46pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 4:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:20pm:
PZ547 wrote on Sep 10th, 2013 at 1:18pm:
A referendum will kiss carbon tax goodnight forever



good, then ask Abbott to hold one before he takes any action.


why? do you think the Greens or Labor would take the slightest notice of the result?  they have lost an election by a landslide and still refuse to repeal it. 


of course they will dopey .... have they ever refused to uphold the result of a referendum?


Referenda are ONLY for constitutional changes - not legislative ones.  there is no facility whatsoever to hold a binding plebiscite on legislation.


fine, you're a genius who knows everything about everything, but you still failed to answer the question  .... again

Have they EVER refused to uphold the result of a referendum?
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Reply #125 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 7:46pm
 
4yr terms with fixed election dates ... 5yrs might be stretching it to far.
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Reply #126 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 11:27am
 
The ALP is continuing to live in a state of denial and it will cost them big time.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #127 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 5:16pm
 
The ALP are still failing to come to grips with the reasons for their electoral flogging.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #128 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 9:38pm
 
I agree Longy, YOU ARE IN A STATE OF DENIAL!
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Reply #129 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 10:42pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 9:38pm:
I agree Longy, YOU ARE IN A STATE OF DENIAL!


says the drongo who STILL claims we will run out of oil in...


1985!!!!


it takes a special breed of clown to be that delusional.


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Reply #130 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 11:13pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 10:42pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 9:38pm:
I agree Longy, YOU ARE IN A STATE OF DENIAL!


says the drongo who STILL claims we will run out of oil in...


1985!!!!


it takes a special breed of clown to be that delusional.




PN doesn't understand between absolute theory and reality

Any finite resource has a theoretical "Peak" point - PN based this theory on oil and mucked around with dates to validate himself

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Reply #131 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 11:17pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 5:16pm:
The ALP are still failing to come to grips with the reasons for their electoral flogging.


I am loving the ALP's focus on the travel rorts - then Dreyfuss had to pay back some money as well  Grin Grin

The more they focus on these travel issues - the more the LIBs are loving it

These travel issues is not much different than claiming back items on your tax return
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Reply #132 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 11:37pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 11:17pm:
These travel issues is not much different than claiming back items on your tax return


It's actually illegal to make false claims in your tax return.

1,500 prosecutions for tax and superannuation offences this financial year



Tax Office technology catches tax cheats
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Reply #133 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 11:57pm
 
As usual, both Longy & maqqa are consistent, BUT CONSISTENTLY INCORRECT!!!


perceptions_now wrote on Aug 26th, 2013 at 12:28pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 11:13pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 3:40pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jul 28th, 2013 at 3:28pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jul 27th, 2013 at 7:13pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27th, 2013 at 6:58pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jul 27th, 2013 at 6:47pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27th, 2013 at 3:55pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jul 27th, 2013 at 3:28pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 27th, 2013 at 2:48pm:
you will also not that Prozac_now never comes up with any solutions - just criticism.  He hates debt and hates spending cuts.  he seems to want it both ways while blaming everyone for everything.

clearly his medication is not working,


You assume too much, as usual! A solution, for everything, there is NOT!

As usual, you statements do not reflect the truth! I have no problem with Debt, Spending Cuts or Economic Stimulation measures, in the appropriate circumstances, of which there have been many, over the years, BUT NONE OF THEM WILL WORK NOW, FOR THE SHORT TO MEDIUM TERM, as the entire system has been destabilised over the last 40-50 years!


so in short, you are saying that you have no answers or solutions.  WHICH WAS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID, oh depressed one.


As usual, your statement is incorrect!

You said that, I never comes up with any solutions.

What I  said is that, there is not necessarily a solution for everything & in this instance there is no solution, which would restore the "status quo", in either the short or medium term and certainly not without a great deal of shared pain for all! 


Btw, which of the following options, per my following post, do you think primarily fit you OR is it simply all of them?

They ("those in the know OR thought they did") thought -
1) Like Longy, it had not happened before, so it never would!
2) "Something", like the cavalry riding to the rescue, would come along to save this from becoming a reality?
3) Then there were those who deliberately turned the other way, preferring short term rewards for themselves and a select few, at great cost to the long term future of the bulk of the Local & Global  Public!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1374843119/16#16


you certainly are a weirdo, Prozac_now.  I say you have never provided solutions and your protesting reply includes... NOT ONE SOLUTION.  has it ever occurred to you that you could skewer  my comments by simply providing those self-same solutions?

you talk and talk ad nauseum, criticising anyone and everyone for their economic policies and promises and yet not once, do you ever offer an alternative.  That's lame enough on its own but when you say that you HAVE but never post them... you look like a weirdo.


Did you ever learn how to read Longy, I said -
"What I  said is that, there is not necessarily a solution for everything & in this instance there is no solution, which would restore the "status quo", in either the short or medium term and certainly not without a great deal of shared pain for all!" 

Did you ever learn how to read Longy, I said -
"What I  said is that, there is not necessarily a solution for everything & in this instance there is no solution, which would restore the "status quo", in either the short or medium term and certainly not without a great deal of shared pain for all!"

You really do have some serious lack of capacities, in a number of areas!


How's your education going Longy?
Have you learned about the 3R's yet?
You know - Reading, Riting & Rithmetic?
Well, at least, you got a chance with the Riting, after all you are on the Rite side of politics?



all you ever is 'gah! we are all going to die'
and then say there are no solutions. Of what value do you think you are to anyone? 
You are the same bozo saying we would run out of oil in 1985 and even worse... still say so
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As usual Longy, YOU ARE INCORRECT!
I have never said, we are all going to die, IT IS YOU WHO JUST SAID THAT!
Also, I never said, we were going to run out of oil in 1985, BUT yes, we certainly will run out at some stage, AS OIL IS MOST DEINITELY A FINITE RESOURCE, don't you know! 



And, as for solutions, apparently you still, continue to fail the 4R's -
Reading
wRiting
aRithmetic
& compRehension
So, I say again -
"What I  said is that, there is not necessarily a solution for everything & in this instance there is no solution, which would restore the "status quo", in either the short or medium term and certainly not without a great deal of shared pain for all!" 

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Reply #134 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 6:08pm
 
True Colours wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 11:37pm:
Maqqa wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 11:17pm:
These travel issues is not much different than claiming back items on your tax return


It's actually illegal to make false claims in your tax return.

1,500 prosecutions for tax and superannuation offences this financial year



Tax Office technology catches tax cheats



a whole 1500???? that's all??

perhaps you missed the point that there is a difference with making an error in a tax return and FRAUD.
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