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Reply #15 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:02pm

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

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De-registered User wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:

What a crock of shyte!

The Libs will win this election and hold the senate, this is guaranteed.

After the last 3 years of shyte governing from the greens and the ALP your both gone and will be assured they be gone for the next 2 terms at the very least. The public has had enough!!!!!!!!

If people are sick of a hung parliament then why vote for a lame duck Liberal since if they win then will face a hostile senate.

Liberals = uncertainty for the economy.

And I doubt it will be long before they're facing a hostile electorate either, once the idiots realise the disaster they've voted for.

As opposed to the amazing government that we've had for the last three years?

Well, yes.

No, they're not my idea of good government.

But they're light-years closer to it than the assholes in this Con-alition.

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Re: Greens On Track For Balance Of Power
Reply #16 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:05pm

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

____ wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 7:29pm:

De-registered User wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:

What a crock of shyte!

The Libs will win this election and hold the senate, this is guaranteed.

After the last 3 years of shyte governing from the greens and the ALP your both gone and will be assured they be gone for the next 2 terms at the very least. The public has had enough!!!!!!!!

If people are sick of a hung parliament then why vote for a lame duck Liberal since if they win then will face a hostile senate.

Liberals = uncertainty for the economy.

And I doubt it will be long before they're facing a hostile electorate either, once the idiots realise the disaster they've voted for.

As opposed to the amazing government that we've had for the last three years?

Well, yes.

No, they're not my idea of good government.

But they're light-years closer to it than the assholes in this Con-alition.

What is your evidence?

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Re: Greens On Track For Balance Of Power
Reply #17 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:18pm

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 8:31pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 8:21pm:

Greens are on track to go the same way as the Democrats and One Nation

Shame the Libs aren't, if ever there was a party and philosophy that didn't deserve to exist, it's them.

Is that why we've been in government more than any other party since Federation?

Yes, unfortunate how the people often don't get the government they want. On at least five occasions more people voted Labor than the coalition but given that government is won on seats and not overall votes Labor have not formed government. Labor won more votes in 1940, 1954, 1961,1969 , and 1998 but didn't win government. It's only happened to the Coaltion once.

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Re: Greens On Track For Balance Of Power
Reply #18 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:28pm

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:05pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

____ wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 7:29pm:

De-registered User wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:

What a crock of shyte!

The Libs will win this election and hold the senate, this is guaranteed.

After the last 3 years of shyte governing from the greens and the ALP your both gone and will be assured they be gone for the next 2 terms at the very least. The public has had enough!!!!!!!!

If people are sick of a hung parliament then why vote for a lame duck Liberal since if they win then will face a hostile senate.

Liberals = uncertainty for the economy.

And I doubt it will be long before they're facing a hostile electorate either, once the idiots realise the disaster they've voted for.

As opposed to the amazing government that we've had for the last three years?

Well, yes.

No, they're not my idea of good government.

But they're light-years closer to it than the assholes in this Con-alition.

What is your evidence?

The past performance (or rather, lack of it) by its members, both singly and severally.

Their lies, especially those related to the economy.

Their bullshyt 'policies'.

And that's enough for me.

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Re: Greens On Track For Balance Of Power
Reply #19 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:28pm

skippy. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:18pm:

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 8:31pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 8:21pm:

Greens are on track to go the same way as the Democrats and One Nation

Shame the Libs aren't, if ever there was a party and philosophy that didn't deserve to exist, it's them.

Is that why we've been in government more than any other party since Federation?

Yes, unfortunate how the people often don't get the government they want. On at least five occasions more people voted Labor than the coalition but given that government is won on seats and not overall votes Labor have not formed government. Labor won more votes in 1940, 1954, 1961,1969 , and 1998 but didn't win government. It's only happened to the Coaltion once.

How many times have the Liberals or Nationals won seats because of preferences, despite coming second in those seats?

Off the top of my head, from the last election I can recall Banks, Moreton, Lilley, La Trobe, Deakin, Corrangamite and Robertson. The Coalition was first in all of the seats that they won.

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Reply #20 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:29pm

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:28pm:

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:05pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

____ wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 7:29pm:

De-registered User wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:

What a crock of shyte!

The Libs will win this election and hold the senate, this is guaranteed.

After the last 3 years of shyte governing from the greens and the ALP your both gone and will be assured they be gone for the next 2 terms at the very least. The public has had enough!!!!!!!!

If people are sick of a hung parliament then why vote for a lame duck Liberal since if they win then will face a hostile senate.

Liberals = uncertainty for the economy.

And I doubt it will be long before they're facing a hostile electorate either, once the idiots realise the disaster they've voted for.

As opposed to the amazing government that we've had for the last three years?

Well, yes.

No, they're not my idea of good government.

But they're light-years closer to it than the assholes in this Con-alition.

What is your evidence?

The past performance (or rather, lack of it) by its members, both singly and severally.

Their lies, especially those related to the economy.

Their bullshyt 'policies'.

And that's enough for me.

Agreed. How dare they pay back all of keating's debt and leave us with a 22 billion surplus. Angry

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Re: Greens On Track For Balance Of Power
Reply #21 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:07pm

matty wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:29pm:

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Agreed. How dare they pay back all of keating's debt and leave us with a 22 billion surplus. Angry

Well you see thats your whole f#ckin problem isn't it, the complete inability to see things from a leftoid perspective, in looney leftoid world a surplus is a f#ckin evil demon that must be destroyed ... and a massive interest bill to China and the ayrabs is their idea of nirvana Cheesy

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Greens On Track For Balance Of Power Reply #22 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:39pm For a government to even *have* a surplus means one (or both) of two things *only. Either they've been over-taxing. Or they've been under-spending. Or both*. But, that'd be beyond the understanding of the dickwads from the Right.
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Reply #24 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:09pm

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:39pm:

For a government to even have a surplus means one (or both) of two things only.

Either they've been over-taxing.

Or they've been under-spending.

Or both.

But, that'd be beyond the understanding of the dickwads from the Right.

I agree to a certain point, but there's no better feeling of security than having at least a small surplus.

I think Howard would still be PM today if he started to spend a little in his last term.

AND the Howard government would have spent when the GFC hit, BUT in a controlled and regulated fashion, they would of delivered a lot more from the surplus than Labor and yes they may have delivered a deficit but it would of been a hell of a lot smaller

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Re: Greens On Track For Balance Of Power
Reply #25 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:24pm

De-registered User wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:09pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:39pm:

For a government to even have a surplus means one (or both) of two things only.

Either they've been over-taxing.

Or they've been under-spending.

Or both.

But, that'd be beyond the understanding of the dickwads from the Right.

I agree to a certain point, but there's no better feeling of security than having at least a small surplus.

I think Howard would still be PM today if he started to spend a little in his last term.

Howard would still be PM if it wasnt for workchoices. His policy on workplace relations mobilised and united the Unions in such an unprecedented manner that I dont think the Coalition had any idea that they were going to bombard the media in such volume.

The unions campaign was so influential as it become a united message and one that the Coalition didnt have the funds to combat, as they also had to campaign against the ALP as well.

Howard also suffered the "its time for change" issue, and was seen as an aging leader compared to a more media friendly Rudd.

I honestly dont think Howards lack of infrastructure spending was ever considered a critical factor at the time.

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Reply #26 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 4:30pm

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:39pm:

For a government to even have a surplus means one (or both) of two things only.

Either they've been over-taxing.

Or they've been under-spending.

Or both.

But, that'd be beyond the understanding of the dickwads from the Right.

Not necessarily. It shows that the government can actually ahdnle the economy, and not waste money on things like canteens without doors and home inulation disasters that led to the death of four young men.

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Reply #27 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 4:32pm

Verge wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:24pm:

De-registered User wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:09pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:39pm:

For a government to even have a surplus means one (or both) of two things only.

Either they've been over-taxing.

Or they've been under-spending.

Or both.

But, that'd be beyond the understanding of the dickwads from the Right.

I agree to a certain point, but there's no better feeling of security than having at least a small surplus.

I think Howard would still be PM today if he started to spend a little in his last term.

Howard would still be PM if it wasnt for workchoices. His policy on workplace relations mobilised and united the Unions in such an unprecedented manner that I dont think the Coalition had any idea that they were going to bombard the media in such volume.

The unions campaign was so influential as it become a united message and one that the Coalition didnt have the funds to combat, as they also had to campaign against the ALP as well.

Howard also suffered the "its time for change" issue, and was seen as an aging leader compared to a more media friendly Rudd.

I honestly dont think Howards lack of infrastructure spending was ever considered a critical factor at the time.

Nice to see you can actually post something sensible for once. I couldn't agree more.

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Reply #28 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 4:33pm

matty wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 4:30pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:39pm:

For a government to even have a surplus means one (or both) of two things only.

Either they've been over-taxing.

Or they've been under-spending.

Or both.

But, that'd be beyond the understanding of the dickwads from the Right.

Not necessarily. It shows that the government can actually ahdnle the economy, and not waste money on things like canteens without doors and home inulation disasters that led to the death of four young men.

So it was the spending on these two projects that created a deficit was it, and the fact you keep bring up the deaths of 4 people as for some cheap political gain shows you not only lack the class to debate in a political forum, but the maturity to debate in an adult one.

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Reply #29 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 4:38pm

Verge wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 4:33pm:

matty wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 4:30pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:39pm:

For a government to even have a surplus means one (or both) of two things only.

Either they've been over-taxing.

Or they've been under-spending.

Or both.

But, that'd be beyond the understanding of the dickwads from the Right.

Not necessarily. It shows that the government can actually ahdnle the economy, and not waste money on things like canteens without doors and home inulation disasters that led to the death of four young men.

So it was the spending on these two projects that created a deficit was it, and the fact you keep bring up the deaths of 4 people as for some cheap political gain shows you not only lack the class to debate in a political forum, but the maturity to debate in an adult one.

That big hand out we all got, $1800 I think, that didn't help keep the budget in check. Plasmas for everyone.

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