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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #165 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

I dispute that dna..

THOMO put himself out there to be voted in as an MP....

Williamson and Jackson did not..

dont you think we have every right to believe anyone that is an MP.. is at the least HONEST and above BEING DRAGGED THROUGH THE COURTS FOR STEALING.

you seem to believe that being a member of parliament should give him or anyone I guess special treatment..

I dont happen to believe that in fact I expect Better if not MORE from our members and I dont care which side they are on..

maybe its time you started expecting more instead of always finding and excuse for their behavior...

if he had been in the private sector... even a copper he would have been suspended from day one....

sorry if its a crime to expect more from our parliamentarians..

and there you have it Cods, albeit by accident, but you've finally gotten something right. Despite the fact that, from the looks of it, Thommo, Williamson And Jackson have all appeared to have been drinking from the same trough, the only one you care about is Thommo.

Does the fact that Jackson and Williamson appear to have been guilty of the same thing not matter? Why? Is it because they can't help abbot win government.

there is a HIGHER standard for MPs. I don't know why you don't know that.

Yes if you are not an MP you are allowed to steal and the laws don't matter. But of course if you are a Liberal MP then the laws don't matter anyway.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #166 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:50pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:32pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:15pm:

muso wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:49pm:

Wonder if we could start a "Neither Liberal, Nor Labor Party"?

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Please Explain Grin

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The NLNL Party.

Would pick up all those disenchanted voters from both sides.

Could be a winner...

who would you preference?

Being a 'Neither/Nor' party we would "internalise" our preferences.
We could call them Echo Preferences, as in bounce them back and forth.
If we 'internalise' them enough, we could end up with more votes than voters....

As that meerkat says in the ads....

"Ssimple!"

"What's in store for me in the direction I don't take?"-Jack Kerouac.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #167 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 8:41am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Thommo is a sleaze, a crook and he ripped off HSU members...he should be put in jail for a very very long time.

And anyone that supports him is just as bad as he is

I would neither SUPPORT - nor CONDEMN - Craig Thomson, for the same reasons I neither SUPPORTED - nor CONDEMNED - Lindy Chamberlain

SOMETIMES, I feel, I stand alone, in having less faith in POLITICS and the MEDIA - than I do in our JUSTICE SYSTEM

'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #168 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 8:56am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

wow... I never knew that!!!

the point was that he has been investigated several times and now facing both civil and criminal charges. That hardly amounts to the smell of innocence and integrity, does it. plenty of politicians and senior employees in large companies have stepped aside once charged with such things as a matter of honesty and integrity and come back once the charges were defeated.

but no thommo. but always good to see you lot defending such behaviour. it explains so much.

Well, now you do know that.

Also, being "investigated several times and now facing both civil and criminal charges" is not the same as being convicted of a crime.

And finally, I'm not "defending such behaviour". Quite the opposite: if he's found guilty on these charges he should have the book thrown at him. No sympathy at all.

So far though, no conviction.

We'll all wait and see. Unless, of course, you'd rather just do away with our court system. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

« Last Edit: Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:10am by greggerypeccary »

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #169 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:29am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 8:41am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Thommo is a sleaze, a crook and he ripped off HSU members...he should be put in jail for a very very long time.

And anyone that supports him is just as bad as he is

I would neither SUPPORT - nor CONDEMN - Craig Thomson, for the same reasons I neither SUPPORTED - nor CONDEMNED - Lindy Chamberlain

SOMETIMES, I feel, I stand alone, in having less faith in POLITICS and the MEDIA - than I do in our JUSTICE SYSTEM

http://nl.solutions-magazine.com/photo/art/grande/3916304-5897057.jpg

YOU ARE SUCH A VISIONARY Grin

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funny how you seemed to support the labor party through thick and thin not that long ago?????.

all things Labor were A.OK

even pinkbatts.. less fires in roofs remember??

when it comes to loss of faith.. for me the Justice system hits the top 10..

now an Anita Cobby murderer looks to being out on parole...

whats with giving people found guilty of murder parole??????..

do they of all people deserve a reward????? Angry

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #170 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:39am

Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:31pm:

Thommo: The archetypal loveable Aussie larrikin.

LABOR LARRIKIN

if you dont mind....

THE 42 faceless men and women in charge of the disgraced NSW Labor Party will be sacked by the end of the year.

All new officials on the ruling body will be limited to serving two years, in a bid to stamp out factional control of the party.

A secret report to be handed to the Prime Minister and the ALP's national executive today has confirmed a new administrative committee will be elected to run the NSW branch in a bid to break union control.

The findings of the controversial report are expected to be enforced by the national executive ahead of the damning report into NSW Labor corruption to be handed down by ICAC tomorrow.

A copy of the report, obtained by The Daily Telegraph, confirms the NSW rules committee has adopted all recommendations demanded by Mr Rudd, including banning property developers becoming ALP MPs.

hilarious.. too little too late I would think espec ially for those farmers that were robbed blind..

the enemy within! hope he is watching his back.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #171 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am

Verge wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

The job of an opposition is to hold the govermemt to account, represent their constituents and to provide a viable alternative.

It is not to dismantle a sitting government with sleaze and innuendo, nor miss represent the true position of the economy.

How many times did they attempt to suspend standing orders?

Abbots junk yard dog routine has gone on long enough and has done nothing to portray our leaders to a positive light.

I hope we get another hung parliament to teach the barstards a lesson that if they want to play the man and not the ball we will elect neither of them again.

charming!!!..

maybe then you would see how frustrating it is to spend 6 year without once getting an answer from the govt in parliament..

if you watched QT you would b e well aware the only questions they ever answered were from their own side...

so yes you may get your wish of a LESSON.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #172 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:44am

cods wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:29am:

YOU ARE SUCH A VISIONARY funny how you seemed to support the labor party through thick and thin not that long ago?????.all things Labor were A.OK even pinkbatts.. less fires in roofs remember??when it comes to loss of faith.. for me the Justice system hits the top 10..

are you able to comment on ANY topic without going on a rant about the pink batts? Stick to topic ... Thommo has NOT being found guilty of anything yet, and until such a time he deserves the presumption of innocence. Start changing the rules to suit your political agenda and we risk destroying our whole way of life. The system may not be perfect, but it's the best one we've got. If you don't like it, come up with a better system.

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #173 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:46am

John Smith wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

I dispute that dna..

THOMO put himself out there to be voted in as an MP....

Williamson and Jackson did not..

dont you think we have every right to believe anyone that is an MP.. is at the least HONEST and above BEING DRAGGED THROUGH THE COURTS FOR STEALING.

you seem to believe that being a member of parliament should give him or anyone I guess special treatment..

I dont happen to believe that in fact I expect Better if not MORE from our members and I dont care which side they are on..

maybe its time you started expecting more instead of always finding and excuse for their behavior...

if he had been in the private sector... even a copper he would have been suspended from day one....

sorry if its a crime to expect more from our parliamentarians..

and there you have it Cods, albeit by accident, but you've finally gotten something right. Despite the fact that, from the looks of it, Thommo, Williamson And Jackson have all appeared to have been drinking from the same trough, the only one you care about is Thommo.

Does the fact that Jackson and Williamson appear to have been guilty of the same thing not matter? Why? Is it because they can't help abbot win government.

there is a HIGHER standard for MPs. I don't know why you don't know that.

what a pathetic excuse ...what sort of higher standard do you set for Abbott? not just an MP, but the leader of the liberals and the man most likely to be our next PM ..... do you hold his abusing the system and taxpayers of $9000 to a higher standard? Don't you think he should be held to the highest standard, second only to the PM?

besides, Thommo wasn't a MP at the time of the alleged incidents. Admit it dopey, if Abbott was in govt. it would have barely got a mention

A) Thommo was still using his union credit card when he was an MP. I cant wait to see how you excuse that.
B) Abbotts repayment was similar to many other MPs who have been asked to repay amounts that didn't fall within the guidelines. it is actually pretty common experience. There is a difference between missing a guideline and blatantly rorting a system. or have you not realised that even labor hasn't made a big issue out of it either?? perhaps because half the front bench has had similar experience?

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #174 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:46am

cods wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am:

Verge wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

The job of an opposition is to hold the govermemt to account, represent their constituents and to provide a viable alternative.

It is not to dismantle a sitting government with sleaze and innuendo, nor miss represent the true position of the economy.

How many times did they attempt to suspend standing orders?

Abbots junk yard dog routine has gone on long enough and has done nothing to portray our leaders to a positive light.

I hope we get another hung parliament to teach the barstards a lesson that if they want to play the man and not the ball we will elect neither of them again.

charming!!!..

maybe then you would see how frustrating it is to spend 6 year without once getting an answer from the govt in parliament..

if you watched QT you would b e well aware the only questions they ever answered were from their own side...

so yes you may get your wish of a LESSON.

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #175 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:48am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:55pm:

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

There were people on here happy that Thomson would get away with it and stay in parliament just to stop Tony Abbott winning a no confidence vote.

There seems some very light morality these days.

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

Very important for Australia to stop the TAbbott danger.

yeah... bugger that whole democracy thing!

I was just thinking longy if the libs were in govt and mid stream they changed the leader so everyone had a new PM who was busy running round changing things and doing god only knows what in haste>??? without any mandate whatever..

do you think our friends from the left would be screaming by now for an election?

or would that not be democracy labor style

You don't remember when Howard promised to hand over to Costello mid term? Think it would have been a sensible change? They should have done it and no problem from me at all.

I would have liked to see how he would have been in the top job.

my memory tells me it was more just before an election announcement..

and yes I agree he should have done it..Peter may have been good we will never know.

at least we know we can never have a worse PM. than what we have experienced...brutus would have been proud.

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Reply #176 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:48am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:46am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

I dispute that dna..

THOMO put himself out there to be voted in as an MP....

Williamson and Jackson did not..

dont you think we have every right to believe anyone that is an MP.. is at the least HONEST and above BEING DRAGGED THROUGH THE COURTS FOR STEALING.

you seem to believe that being a member of parliament should give him or anyone I guess special treatment..

I dont happen to believe that in fact I expect Better if not MORE from our members and I dont care which side they are on..

maybe its time you started expecting more instead of always finding and excuse for their behavior...

if he had been in the private sector... even a copper he would have been suspended from day one....

sorry if its a crime to expect more from our parliamentarians..

and there you have it Cods, albeit by accident, but you've finally gotten something right. Despite the fact that, from the looks of it, Thommo, Williamson And Jackson have all appeared to have been drinking from the same trough, the only one you care about is Thommo.

Does the fact that Jackson and Williamson appear to have been guilty of the same thing not matter? Why? Is it because they can't help abbot win government.

there is a HIGHER standard for MPs. I don't know why you don't know that.

what a pathetic excuse ...what sort of higher standard do you set for Abbott? not just an MP, but the leader of the liberals and the man most likely to be our next PM ..... do you hold his abusing the system and taxpayers of $9000 to a higher standard? Don't you think he should be held to the highest standard, second only to the PM?

besides, Thommo wasn't a MP at the time of the alleged incidents. Admit it dopey, if Abbott was in govt. it would have barely got a mention

A) Thommo was still using his union credit card when he was an MP. I cant wait to see how you excuse that.
B) Abbotts repayment was similar to many other MPs who have been asked to repay amounts that didn't fall within the guidelines. it is actually pretty common experience. There is a difference between missing a guideline and blatantly rorting a system. or have you not realised that even labor hasn't made a big issue out of it either?? perhaps because half the front bench has had similar experience?

A) I don't excuse anything you fvcken moron. Do you believe in trial by media longy?

B) It was Abbott who was pushing for slipper to be charged for falsely claiming $750 ..... don't move the goal posts just because your idiol has now been caught

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #177 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am

John Smith wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:44am:

cods wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:29am:

YOU ARE SUCH A VISIONARY funny how you seemed to support the labor party through thick and thin not that long ago?????.all things Labor were A.OK even pinkbatts.. less fires in roofs remember??when it comes to loss of faith.. for me the Justice system hits the top 10..

are you able to comment on ANY topic without going on a rant about the pink batts? Stick to topic ... Thommo has NOT being found guilty of anything yet, and until such a time he deserves the presumption of innocence. Start changing the rules to suit your political agenda and we risk destroying our whole way of life. The system may not be perfect, but it's the best one we've got. If you don't like it, come up with a better system.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #178 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am

Verge wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

The job of an opposition is to hold the govermemt to account, represent their constituents and to provide a viable alternative.

It is not to dismantle a sitting government with sleaze and innuendo, nor miss represent the true position of the economy.

How many times did they attempt to suspend standing orders?

Abbots junk yard dog routine has gone on long enough and has done nothing to portray our leaders to a positive light.

I hope we get another hung parliament to teach the barstards a lesson that if they want to play the man and not the ball we will elect neither of them again.

oh please... do you spend your days watching Play School? You are behaving as if every labor opposition has not done exactly the same thing and worse. When you talk about the Libs misrepresenting the state of the economy you fail to state that Labor - IN GOVT - has done just that and far worse. How can a budget go from small surplus to massive deficit in a couple months without deliberate misrepresentation?

But mostly, I am amused and disappointed that you seme to understand little of the true nature of politics which is and has always been... A FIGHT.

You must hate our legal system too. it is essentially the same thing.

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #179 - Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:50am

Lobo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:49pm:

Verge wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

The job of an opposition is to hold the govermemt to account, represent their constituents and to provide a viable alternative.

It is not to dismantle a sitting government with sleaze and innuendo, nor miss represent the true position of the economy.

How many times did they attempt to suspend standing orders?

Abbots junk yard dog routine has gone on long enough and has done nothing to portray our leaders to a positive light.

I hope we get another hung parliament to teach the barstards a lesson that if they want to play the man and not the ball we will elect neither of them again.

Be an interesting scenario if we had a House full of Independents...

Actually 'scarey' is more the word.

Wonder if we could start a "Neither Liberal, Nor Labor Party"?

Wink

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a group of independents is a party - a POLITICAL PARTY. that is the problem with the rather naïve suggestion that parties be banned. people gather into groups naturally and in politics do exactly the same thing.

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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