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Reply #915 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am
 
He Man wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:34am:
The problem with America is guns lying around the house for kids to lay their hands on.

Banning them at least gets rid of those.
I understand the deterrent point of view but stats don't lie.



You have no idea what you are posting about. Children in da hood and the Barrio may find unattended firearms but the rest of us know the penalty for unsupervised access  leading to accidents. Add to that the  tragedy the owner would have to live with.

Handguns are very handy  tools, last week I used a double action .22 revolver to dispatch  five field rats in my garden. Years ago I discouraged  a home intruder from entering my home with a Star PD.

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Reply #916 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:05am
 
He Man wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:34am:
The problem with America is guns lying around the house for kids to lay their hands on.

Banning them at least gets rid of those.
I understand the deterrent point of view but stats don't lie.


More kids die from drowning compared to gun deaths in the USA, why are no hoplophobes calling for pool fences in the USA?
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Reply #917 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:25am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:05am:
He Man wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:34am:
The problem with America is guns lying around the house for kids to lay their hands on.

Banning them at least gets rid of those.
I understand the deterrent point of view but stats don't lie.


More kids die from drowning compared to gun deaths in the USA, why are no hoplophobes calling for pool fences in the USA?




I'm calling for pool fencing and gun control.

Done.
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Reply #918 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 10:38am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:01am:
Years ago I discouraged  a home intruder from entering my home with a Star PD.


"Discouraged"  Grin

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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?
 
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Reply #919 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 10:42am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:25am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:05am:
He Man wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:34am:
The problem with America is guns lying around the house for kids to lay their hands on.

Banning them at least gets rid of those.
I understand the deterrent point of view but stats don't lie.


More kids die from drowning compared to gun deaths in the USA, why are no hoplophobes calling for pool fences in the USA?




I'm calling for pool fencing and gun control.

Done.


Although in fairness, if I had to choose one, I'd choose gun control.

Why? As Baron said -- guns don't kill people; idiots with guns do. Since we're not allowed to get rid of the idiots (would be most of the voting base), the guns will have to do.
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Reply #920 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:02pm
 
He Man wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:34am:
The problem with America is guns lying around the house for kids to lay their hands on.

Banning them at least gets rid of those.
I understand the deterrent point of view but stats don't lie.


You go tell 'em that to get rid of the handful or two guns 'lying around the house', all the estimated 150 million law abiding citizens will have to fork over their legal firearms just to save a mere few hundred kiddies who ignorantly love to pick 'em up to play with.

Not in a billion years mate.....seriously.

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If you decide on carrying on with such lunacy might I suggest you bring plenty of bandages, all the transfusion blood you can carry, & corks to plug up yer holes!!!  ...  ...

JFYI.....unlike here, in the States, the people need to overwhelmingly rescind their rights, government isn't free to just cavalierly ban their rights......government by law is responsible to the people (who they are employed by), not their own personal agendas, noble or not. Wink

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"....Shall not be infringed...."    isn't a passive suggestion, it's an firm order to government to mind their place.....period! Wink




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Reply #921 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 1:02pm
 
MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 10:42am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:25am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 9:05am:
He Man wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:34am:
The problem with America is guns lying around the house for kids to lay their hands on.

Banning them at least gets rid of those.
I understand the deterrent point of view but stats don't lie.


More kids die from drowning compared to gun deaths in the USA, why are no hoplophobes calling for pool fences in the USA?




I'm calling for pool fencing and gun control.

Done.


Although in fairness, if I had to choose one, I'd choose gun control.

Why? As Baron said -- guns don't kill people; idiots with guns do. Since we're not allowed to get rid of the idiots (would be most of the voting base), the guns will have to do.


In all fairness if you want to dictate to Americans on how they should live then surely they can dictate to us on how to live.

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Reply #922 - Nov 3rd, 2015 at 10:51pm
 
Panther wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 12:02pm:
If you decide on carrying on with such lunacy might I suggest you bring plenty of bandages, all the transfusion blood you can carry, & corks to plug up yer holes!!!  ...  ...


I suggest that's a cultural problem that needs to be fixed. Make love, not war.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2015 at 1:02pm:
In all fairness if you want to dictate to Americans on how they should live then surely they can dictate to us on how to live.


They do, and have been for donkeys' years. The difference is, the Yanks have the option of implementing our suggestions.
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Reply #923 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 8:56am
 
When parents were in charge of the home guns were unsecured and accidents were rare. We knew to leave them alone without permission unlike today were parents jump through hoops to meet every desire of their children.

Most new firearms come with some kind of lock or trigger blocking device, it is the owners responsibility to use them. Gun safes are good sellers and generally cost less then two high end handguns. No one wants a tragedy or having their property stolen.
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Reply #924 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:32pm
 
The truth is society is a joke today.  Guns are just a way to sidetrack that issue.
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Reply #925 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 4:46pm
 
Appropriations Act Signed Into Law
With Important Pro-Second Amendment Provisions



Source:  NRA - ILA  Quote:
On Wednesday, November 25, President Obama signed S. 1356, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2016 into law. Included in the bill were some very important pro-gun provisions that represent the culmination of long-term efforts by your NRA to advance Second Amendment rights at the federal level.

The first of these provisions clarifies an exception in the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) that pertains to ammunition. Although TSCA clearly exempts “cartridges” and “shells” from the Act’s jurisdiction, radical environmental groups like the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) have for years been trying to force the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to regulate lead projectiles under the Act. Splitting the finest of legal hairs, CBD has tried to claim that the exception applies only to assembled cartridges, not to their individual components. CBD characterized the effort in a fundraising appeal to supporters as "a once-in-a-lifetime campaign … to ban all lead bullets everywhere in the United States."

Section 315 of the NDAA makes explicit the clear intent of the exception, which was to conclusively remove ammunition from the scope of the TSCA. Thus, the exception now includes not just shells and cartridges but “components of shot shells and cartridges.”

Section 526 responds to the ongoing issue of terrorist violence against America’s men and women in uniform on military installations. Ironically, individual service members are generally prohibited from carrying firearms for self-defense while on base, leading terrorists to view them as soft targets. This language would require the Secretary of Defense to “establish and implement a process by which the commanders of military installations … and such other defense facilities as the Secretary may prescribe” could “authorize a member of the Armed Forces who is assigned to duty at the installation … or facility to carry an appropriate firearm … if the commander determines that carrying such a firearm is necessary as a personal- or force-protection measure.”

Rounding out the list of pro-gun provisions is section 1087, which restores authorization to the Secretary of Defense to transfer to the Civilian Marksmanship Program surplus M1911 and M1911A1 .45 ACP pistols for sale to the public. The component of the CMP that dispenses the pistols would be required to obtain a federal firearms license and abide by all requirements of the Gun Control Act pertaining to licensed sales and transfers. Currently, the military has some 100,000 such pistols that it no longer needs and that are being stored as taxpayer expense. These historically-significant firearms can now be transferred to law-abiding owners at a net gain to the government’s heavily-indebted balance sheet.

The NRA thanks those pro-gun members of Congress who sponsored and voted for these provisions. They are a win for America’s law-abiding gun owners and for the nation’s gun-owning heritage.




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Reply #926 - Dec 3rd, 2015 at 11:14am
 
I am sure it hair lipped the hell out of President  Comacho to let the Civilian Marksmanship Program sell old 1911 handguns to qualified Americans. They will not be available to everyone but they will be available to me and I hope to get one that has not been arsenal rebuilt with mixed parts.
On the other hand our HNIC is more then happy to arm Muslims in the middle east with modern high dollar weapons of war!
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Reply #927 - Dec 3rd, 2015 at 11:22am
 
HNIC?


PLus your previous CiC did that as well.
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Reply #928 - Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:48pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 11:22am:
HNIC?


PLus your previous CiC did that as well.


As I have stated before, I opposed  the invasion of Iraq. Destabilizing a country who's people had no concept of Self rule was sure to end badly.
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Reply #929 - Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:08pm
 
And HNIC?
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