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Reply #15 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:09pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:08pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 4:50pm:
There can be absolutely no doubt about it anymore. Julia Gillard is officially Australia's worst-ever Prime Minister and her Deputy PM and Treasurer, Wayne Swan is the worst DPM and Treasurer this country has ever had!


Having been around in Whitlams time I never thought I'd see anyone top his arrogance or match his incompetence. But along comes Gillard wih LESS competence, MORE arrogance and that voice... UGH! Whitlam was an oratorical champion while Gillard is bogan central with the Kath and Kim voice.

Gough Whitlam... you may yet live to see your record lost beaten and by a significant margin.


Gillard claimed with confidence in QT recently that she'll win the next election. Seems highly unlikely, to say the least!
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Reply #16 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:16pm
 
2 great points to come out of this poll are:

(1) Labor on 30% primary

(2) Greens on 10% primary
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Reply #17 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:19pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:16pm:
2 great points to come out of this poll are:

(1) Labor on 30% primary

(2) Greens on 10% primary


Gillard dissatisfaction at 65% is just as good...
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Reply #18 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:41pm
 
I think the struggle, bloodshed and survival of the fittest tards of the right wing atheist persuasion are in for a shock if they think the coalition is going to be able to implement Darwins Nazi superstitions...
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Reply #19 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:46pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:16pm:
2 great points to come out of this poll are:

(1) Labor on 30% primary

(2) Greens on 10% primary


shhhh! dont tell FD. He still thinks the Greens are rising and headed towards becoming a major party!!! LOL
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Reply #20 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:50pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:46pm:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:16pm:
2 great points to come out of this poll are:

(1) Labor on 30% primary

(2) Greens on 10% primary


shhhh! dont tell FD. He still thinks the Greens are rising and headed towards becoming a major party!!! LOL


Hell, they aren't even a minor party. They're just a bunch of lunatic activists...
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Reply #21 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:54pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:50pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:46pm:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:16pm:
2 great points to come out of this poll are:

(1) Labor on 30% primary

(2) Greens on 10% primary


shhhh! dont tell FD. He still thinks the Greens are rising and headed towards becoming a major party!!! LOL


Hell, they aren't even a minor party. They're just a bunch of lunatic activists...



Milne tells us they are a credible alternative - but if it wasn't for Labor's power lust they wouldn't have a say at all
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Reply #22 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 7:53pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:54pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:50pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 6:46pm:
Maqqa wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 5:16pm:
2 great points to come out of this poll are:

(1) Labor on 30% primary

(2) Greens on 10% primary


shhhh! dont tell FD. He still thinks the Greens are rising and headed towards becoming a major party!!! LOL


Hell, they aren't even a minor party. They're just a bunch of lunatic activists...



Milne tells us they are a credible alternative - but if it wasn't for Labor's power lust they wouldn't have a say at all


Milne says alot - I doubt much if any is the truth.
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Reply #23 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 10:51pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 8:49am:
Today's Newspoll gives the nation's view on the ALP and its interminable leadership crisis and it is a massive thumbs down.

In a result which would eclipse Gough Whitlam's massive defeat in 1975, Julia Gillard is taking her fractured and demoralised party to an annihilation that would see 30 of Labors 72 seats go to the popular Coalition. It is a maxim in politics that 'disunity is death' but even labor strategists are shocked by the severity of the hit they have taken. The Coalition have reached 50% of the primary vote while Labor has plunged four points to just 30% and a two-party preferred figure of 58/42. But what Labor fears even more is that the worst is yet to come.

The labor vote is on a solid trajectory down hill and the indications are that nobody is listening to Gillard or indeed, anyone else from labor. Kevin Rudd has shown himself to be a coward and consequently, voters who had a hope that he would rise and 'save' Labor have had their hopes dashed. Gillards actions in sacking and forcing pro-Rudd front benchers out just underlines her divisive rule. Suddenly, there is not just one Rudd on the back bench sniping and leaking information. There are ten of them. And to underline all that misery comes the news that Tonny Abbott is preferred Prime Minister by his biggest margin yet.

If there was ever any hope of a miracle win, it evaporated with this poll. A PM with the strategic and oratorical skills of a Paul Keating couldnt save this turkey. Gillard's political strategy skills are appalling and apart from when she is embarrassing herself by playing the gender card, her oratorical skills match Kath and Kim and even with the accent.

But the ALP are stuck with her now. There is literally no one else left to take on the job and possibly salvage some warm bodies from the wreckage. Like any one of a hundred dictators before her, she has 'executed' her opponents.

By Sept 14 we could be looking at a 40+ seat loss and an ALP doomed to the opposition benches for a decade or more.


I agree, Labor will lose & lose badly, in the upcoming election, as the Public look for someone to blame!

That said, the Liberals will be a "one term" government, as the GFC returns & the Libs go for their standard DNA fix of AUS-terity, which will only exacerbate issues & rush the OZ Economy further into the downward spiral!

So, you can guess what's coming next, as the Public look for someone to blame, which this time will be the Liberals & yes, they will become a term government, as will Labor, who will in trun lose the following election, as a pattern sets in!
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Reply #24 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 10:58pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 10:51pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 8:49am:
Today's Newspoll gives the nation's view on the ALP and its interminable leadership crisis and it is a massive thumbs down.

In a result which would eclipse Gough Whitlam's massive defeat in 1975, Julia Gillard is taking her fractured and demoralised party to an annihilation that would see 30 of Labors 72 seats go to the popular Coalition. It is a maxim in politics that 'disunity is death' but even labor strategists are shocked by the severity of the hit they have taken. The Coalition have reached 50% of the primary vote while Labor has plunged four points to just 30% and a two-party preferred figure of 58/42. But what Labor fears even more is that the worst is yet to come.

The labor vote is on a solid trajectory down hill and the indications are that nobody is listening to Gillard or indeed, anyone else from labor. Kevin Rudd has shown himself to be a coward and consequently, voters who had a hope that he would rise and 'save' Labor have had their hopes dashed. Gillards actions in sacking and forcing pro-Rudd front benchers out just underlines her divisive rule. Suddenly, there is not just one Rudd on the back bench sniping and leaking information. There are ten of them. And to underline all that misery comes the news that Tonny Abbott is preferred Prime Minister by his biggest margin yet.

If there was ever any hope of a miracle win, it evaporated with this poll. A PM with the strategic and oratorical skills of a Paul Keating couldnt save this turkey. Gillard's political strategy skills are appalling and apart from when she is embarrassing herself by playing the gender card, her oratorical skills match Kath and Kim and even with the accent.

But the ALP are stuck with her now. There is literally no one else left to take on the job and possibly salvage some warm bodies from the wreckage. Like any one of a hundred dictators before her, she has 'executed' her opponents.

By Sept 14 we could be looking at a 40+ seat loss and an ALP doomed to the opposition benches for a decade or more.


I agree, Labor will lose & lose badly, in the upcoming election, as the Public look for someone to blame!

That said, the Liberals will be a "one term" government, as the GFC returns & the Libs go for their standard DNA fix of AUS-terity, which will only exacerbate issues & rush the OZ Economy further into the downward spiral!

So, you can guess what's coming next, as the Public look for someone to blame, which this time will be the Liberals & yes, they will become a term government, as will Labor, who will in trun lose the following election, as a pattern sets in!

Its good to day dream. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Reply #25 - Mar 27th, 2013 at 4:24am
 
Oh gawd. Are you ppl gunna keep this up all the way to september? Negativity and slogans? Actually not a bad idea (for the other side) of you do.

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Reply #26 - Mar 27th, 2013 at 6:27am
 
theres only one thing that will prevent this being a bigger massacre than gough and thats abbott.

good grief, if the libs had howard/costello as their team instead of abbott /bishop who both are only marginally better than numptie material, well i think the the slaughter would be complete.

as ive said before, i mainly mix with bogans and they all liked gough. gough was worth listening to, the unions were strong at the time.

they universally HATE gillard. i almost feel sorry for her. like andrei i cannot wait to see swans face on election night. whilst julia is just an unfortunate woman with no leadership skills and ambition above her talent, swan is a truly evil class warfare arseh*le, and i have NO sympathy for him and his type. they truly would see australia a third world economy if it meant they could put the boot into the hard workers in the small business sector,  i mite frame his picture too andrei and see if i can get it laminated and fixed in  my toilet bowl Wink
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Reply #27 - Mar 27th, 2013 at 6:32am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 27th, 2013 at 4:24am:
Oh gawd. Are you ppl gunna keep this up all the way to september? Negativity and slogans? Actually not a bad idea (for the other side) of you do.

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I'm not negative! I'm positive that Abbott is goping to be PM come September!!!  Smiley
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Reply #28 - Mar 27th, 2013 at 6:35am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 10:51pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26th, 2013 at 8:49am:
Today's Newspoll gives the nation's view on the ALP and its interminable leadership crisis and it is a massive thumbs down.

In a result which would eclipse Gough Whitlam's massive defeat in 1975, Julia Gillard is taking her fractured and demoralised party to an annihilation that would see 30 of Labors 72 seats go to the popular Coalition. It is a maxim in politics that 'disunity is death' but even labor strategists are shocked by the severity of the hit they have taken. The Coalition have reached 50% of the primary vote while Labor has plunged four points to just 30% and a two-party preferred figure of 58/42. But what Labor fears even more is that the worst is yet to come.

The labor vote is on a solid trajectory down hill and the indications are that nobody is listening to Gillard or indeed, anyone else from labor. Kevin Rudd has shown himself to be a coward and consequently, voters who had a hope that he would rise and 'save' Labor have had their hopes dashed. Gillards actions in sacking and forcing pro-Rudd front benchers out just underlines her divisive rule. Suddenly, there is not just one Rudd on the back bench sniping and leaking information. There are ten of them. And to underline all that misery comes the news that Tonny Abbott is preferred Prime Minister by his biggest margin yet.

If there was ever any hope of a miracle win, it evaporated with this poll. A PM with the strategic and oratorical skills of a Paul Keating couldnt save this turkey. Gillard's political strategy skills are appalling and apart from when she is embarrassing herself by playing the gender card, her oratorical skills match Kath and Kim and even with the accent.

But the ALP are stuck with her now. There is literally no one else left to take on the job and possibly salvage some warm bodies from the wreckage. Like any one of a hundred dictators before her, she has 'executed' her opponents.

By Sept 14 we could be looking at a 40+ seat loss and an ALP doomed to the opposition benches for a decade or more.


I agree, Labor will lose & lose badly, in the upcoming election, as the Public look for someone to blame!

That said, the Liberals will be a "one term" government, as the GFC returns & the Libs go for their standard DNA fix of AUS-terity, which will only exacerbate issues & rush the OZ Economy further into the downward spiral!

So, you can guess what's coming next, as the Public look for someone to blame, which this time will be the Liberals & yes, they will become a term government, as will Labor, who will in trun lose the following election, as a pattern sets in!


Gawd, you're almost as delusional as Gillard! Labor is gonna lose up to 35 seats. That's not something you recover from in one term. So like it or not, Tony is gonna be PM for at least two terms, possibly three.
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Reply #29 - Mar 27th, 2013 at 7:10am
 
no i think perceptions has a good point.

campbell is coming under pressure in qld trying to pay off labor debt, but campbell is a VERY self assured good communicator.

tony will face massive problems
trying to reverse the pension increases
stop the rediculous NBN blowout
stop the indonesian pipeline
and pay off 200 billion of swan debt.

i'm sorry but i dont think he's up to the job. he tends to clam up (witness some of his interviews) and the media will turn on him when they get a whiff of blood and because they like to make themselves the centre of every interview.
he needs to be very carefully media managed when in the lodge.
i would go the putin route and just be the hard man who doesnt be bothered talking to his underlings.
if not and if he is replaced mid term, it will be a TERRIBLE look considering the current labor fiasco.

oh how i bet the libs wish they could get howard costello back.  the golden years. Wink
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