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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #75 - Feb 1^st, 2013 at 4:42pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 31^st, 2013 at 4:48pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 31^st, 2013 at 4:32pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 31^st, 2013 at 4:28pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 31^st, 2013 at 4:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2013 at 3:48pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 31^st, 2013 at 3:20pm:

its called isolated weather events, no pattern, no conspiracy theory, no need to deny it, just call it what it is, the WEATHER.

Yep.

However, the AGW alarmists have a tough time distinguishing between weather & climate, and local & global.

You measure climate through weather.

Weather events are never climate. Weather observed over a timeframe is climate..

Thats what I said. You measure climate through weather.

But you were referring to someone calling out weather events are not the new climate. Play with words, just like you are doing with flannery's words, but it by no means makes you correct.

Climate is weather over a long period of time. You are right. Just wrong to reply to the post you did.

No you are wrong.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #76 - Feb 6^th, 2013 at 4:09pm

muso wrote on Feb 1^st, 2013 at 4:36pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2013 at 10:37pm:

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I don't see the point of arguing with the faithful, so I'll leave it to Dr Jolly.

Oh the irony....

There is no faith involved. I understand the science. It's my field.

Do you have faith when you believe that the earth orbits the sun?

It's a good theory, but it has not been proven by a long shot.

Maybe you believe that the Earth follows a straight line in distorted space time? That's another good theory, but it hasn't been proven either.

Maybe you believe that two parallel lines never meet? This time, you'd be wrong. They meet at infinity. Now that can be proven because it's pure mathematics.

In science, saying that something hasn't been proven is disingenuous. It's not really saying anything useful.

HANG ON,I THOUGHT PARALLEL LINES MEETING AT INFINITY WAS CHI-GUNG!??!

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #77 - Feb 8^th, 2013 at 1:33pm

Seems like there is no record-breaking heat after all....JoNova rips the BOM a new one.

But the headlines that reached around the world is what the alarmists want, and even if they did put an apology in the next week, it doesn't matter they have spread their BS.

It will be a great day when scientists can be respected again. Until these climate change charlotans are exposed and run out of town then sorry, we have every reason to take every press release with contempt and well deserved sceptism.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Get used to record-breaking heat Reply #78 - Feb 9^th, 2013 at 7:02pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 6^th, 2013 at 4:09pm: *HANG ON,I THOUGHT PARALLEL LINES MEETING AT INFINITY WAS CHI-GUNG!??!* It's also Projective Geometry (but not Euclidean Geometry). I wondered if anybody would bite.
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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #79 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 4:30pm

Rider wrote on Feb 8^th, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Seems like there is no record-breaking heat after all....JoNova rips the BOM a new one.

But the headlines that reached around the world is what the alarmists want, and even if they did put an apology in the next week, it doesn't matter they have spread their BS.

It will be a great day when scientists can be respected again. Until these climate change charlotans are exposed and run out of town then sorry, we have every reason to take every press release with contempt and well deserved sceptism.

LOL,

"fire"

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Get used to record-breaking heat Reply #80 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 10:45pm we have every reason to take every press release with contempt and well deserved sceptism ..LOL --- Ridden. ooh that sounds painful.
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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #81 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 9:25am

Rider wrote on Feb 8^th, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Seems like there is no record-breaking heat after all....JoNova rips the BOM a new one.

But the headlines that reached around the world is what the alarmists want, and even if they did put an apology in the next week, it doesn't matter they have spread their BS.

It will be a great day when scientists can be respected again. Until these climate change charlotans are exposed and run out of town then sorry, we have every reason to take every press release with contempt and well deserved sceptism.

And the UAH satelites don't agree it was the hottest summer evah either... BOM FAIL!!!!

JoNova rocks!

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Get used to record-breaking heat Reply #82 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 8:34pm what are the UAH satellites, again?? Do satellites have the ability to disagree??
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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #83 - Mar 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm

SO

THE STATS ARE IN..

all you anal retentives who want the facts... the facts are in.

Hottest ever...!! for simplification purposes.

And now you fearful deniers will say... BUT BUT BUT what about before records were kept.?? What about it?
You have speculation only.. you'd rather rely on .. but.. maybe .. than on recorded history.

What a fanciful idea... that there was a similar time in the past. Roll Eyes

Er what civilisation WAS that??

It just doesn't make it as a reasonable argument, and you'll just have to admit that it has been the hottest ever yr...

tough ,
and times are going to get tougher again. Tongue

and I am still waiting to hear what exactly UAH Satellites are,.. and why , how , they have some say.???

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #84 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:21am

Emma wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm:

SO

THE STATS ARE IN..

all you anal retentives who want the facts... the facts are in.

Hottest ever...!! for simplification purposes.

And now you fearful deniers will say... BUT BUT BUT what about before records were kept.?? What about it?
You have speculation only.. you'd rather rely on .. but.. maybe .. than on recorded history.

What a fanciful idea... that there was a similar time in the past. Roll Eyes

Er what civilisation WAS that??

It just doesn't make it as a reasonable argument, and you'll just have to admit that it has been the hottest ever yr...

tough ,
and times are going to get tougher again. Tongue

and I am still waiting to hear what exactly UAH Satellites are,.. and why , how , they have some say.???

The record heat was cause by UHI and poor station location (for BOM). Satelite data says it was not the hottest and that is the most reliable consider there is no poor station location but still has the UHI signiture.

The satellite data shows that the summer of 2012-2013 was close to ordinary, compared with the entire satellite record going back to 1979. Not a record. Not even extreme?

The graph data comes thanks to John Christy, Director, Earth System Science Center, Distinguished Professor, Atmospheric Science
University of Alabama in Huntsville, Alabama State Climatologist and Roy Spencer. It was graphed by Ken Stewart at KensKingdom, and inspired by Tom Quirk at Quadrant. I was very happy to connect them this weekend. The data cover “average lower troposphere temperature anomalies for land grids only for the region 10S-40S by 110E-155E.” UPDATE: The data in the graph above does include Tasmania as well, and does not include PNG or Timor.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #85 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:54am

was that supposed to answer my query??

now we have uhi data back to 1979 .. Roll Eyes

UHI ??

what about UAH ??

OH the University of Alabama.... but ..

I'm not actually specifically talking about Australia...
excluding Timor or PNG.

which is
Localised weather... Roll Eyes

..

Stats reflect actual data recorded, and it depends on who interprets those facts, and what the data is, and what it refers to.

P Lolly... ??? grasp as many straws as you can... and hold on as tight as you can ... because

you're still going to sink along with all the rest of us.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #86 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 5:47am

Emma wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 1:54am:

was that supposed to answer my query??

now we have uhi data back to 1979 .. Roll Eyes

UHI ??

what about UAH ??

OH the University of Alabama.... but ..

I'm not actually specifically talking about Australia...
excluding Timor or PNG.

which is
Localised weather... Roll Eyes

..

Stats reflect actual data recorded, and it depends on who interprets those facts, and what the data is, and what it refers to.

P Lolly... ??? grasp as many straws as you can... and hold on as tight as you can ... because

you're still going to sink along with all the rest of us.

You see the 79 temps are equal to 2013 temp. Shame on the AGW loons.

You see the lower temps for the 2012 summer. No spin, just the best data you can get apparently.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #87 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 6:10am

Emma only reads the warmist propaganda from BoM. All other sources are irrelevant Especially if they offer undoctored, non manipulated, un smoothed, un corrupted data which disputes the childish banter from a heavily politically organisation (a once proud and respected organisation).

The only extreme in Aust weather over summer was the all new metric developed by the BoM which created new records. Show us the methodology used BoM, let the light in and allow other scientists to peer review the science. A handful of hot days, a flood or two, and some bushfires does not make for extreme - quite normal actually - its a big open country not a laboratory.

Plenty of records breaking in Europe and UK at the moment.....global cooling anyone??

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #88 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:08pm

P Lolly

surely you can see, in your OWN graph....

that
- the number of anomalies ABOVE the line, = 15 in total between 1995 and 2013...
whereas

- in the period 1979 to 1994 ....the number of anomalies ABOVE the line, = 4 in total.

An almost 400% increase in recorded anomalous Heat data.??

Is this not the case???

Is there another way to view this information
which supports ... your view... ???

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #89 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:14pm

Emma wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:08pm:

P Lolly

surely you can see, in your OWN graph....

that
- the number of anomalies ABOVE the line, = 15 in total between 1995 and 2013...
whereas

- in the period 1979 to 1994 ....the number of anomalies ABOVE the line, = 4 in total.

An almost 400% increase in recorded anomalous Heat data.??

Is this not the case???

Is there another way to view this information
which supports ... your view... ???

Meaningless. 79 and 2013 are the same too. The inbetween is the way it has always been. Change. Now back to normal levels.

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