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Reply #240 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 7:57am

The only reason you care is because it's Jews on Muslim land. Don't make out you care one iota about land acquisition. If it was Muslims taking somebody else's land you'd have a happy moment. All Muslims care about is Muslims and that's why don't care about you. abu_rashid wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

So if someone took all that away from you... how do you think you'd react towards them? With the same kind of indifference you're suggesting others should?

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Reply #241 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:05am

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:46pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:17pm:

Genesis 17:15
And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be.
16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.

Genesis 21:9
And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.
10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.
"And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Wouldn't be the first time the lying pens of the false scribes (Jeremiah 8:8) doctored the words of God to suit themselves.

Besides, really what kind of covenant could be built on robbing the eldest son of his inheritance? Not like it's the only case claimed in the corrupted texts anyway. The story of Esau is even more disturbing... a covenant and a "blessing" based on one brother lying to his blind father, putting goatskin on his body so he appears like his older [hairier] brother, in order to rob him of his inheritance, duping his father into bequeathing him with the so called covenant and blessing.... if this is what your covenant and your blessing is based on, then it's pretty empty. this is the routine kind of the stuff the Bible claims the entire Jewish favour is all about. and it is this Jewish favour that you worship as your idol.

Have you even bothered to read the book you put your trust in for your eternal salvation Yadda? My guess is if you actually did, you'd realise it's corrupted.

Psalms 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.iAbu;
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"If only you actually read your own books instead of making up your own beliefs to suit your own vain desires."

Abu,
You worship Mohammed, the 'prophet of Allah' who tells moslems what wonderful people they are.
And all moslems just suck it all up.

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."

Koran 3.110

Abu which moslem community in the world, is the shining example of ISLAM's morality ???

Which group of moslem peoples are the exemplar of moslem people who are; 'enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah' ???

Was it the Taliban ???

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Or is it Sudan, or Somalia, or is it the 'land of the pure' believers of Pakistan?

Or Malaysia, or Indonesia [where they burn churches and behead Christian school girls as a 'gift to Allah'], or Saudi Arabia, or Iran, or Jordan, or Yemen ?

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A 'married' 8-year-old girl, a victim of rape and abuse, seeks divorce from her husband in Yemen

Abu,

Where are all of these moslem paragons of virtue ????

Abu again;
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"If only you actually read your own books instead of making up your own beliefs to suit your own vain desires."

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ISLAM is a deceitful, vicious, violent, death cult.

ISLAMIC ideology teaches moslems that,
1/ it is lawful for moslems to kill those who leave ISLAM, and that,
2/ it is lawful for moslems to kill those who resist the spread of ISLAM, and that,
3/ it is lawful for moslems to kill those who find cause to criticise ISLAM or Mohammed.

A moslem, is a person who chooses to embrace a philosophy, ISLAM, which tells moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to lie to, to plunder and to rob, to rape, to enslave, and to kill those, who do not believe, as they believe.

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"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.....

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......A moslem, promoting, justifying, ISLAM's murder of those who do not believe, as they believe.

Allah's Apostle said,

"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."

hadith/bukhari #004.052.220

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."

hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

n.b.
"...those who reject Faith"........ [are] "the friends of Satan:.."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists
Reply #242 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:51am

Big Dave wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

The only reason you care is because it's Jews on Muslim land. Don't make out you care one iota about land acquisition. If it was Muslims taking somebody else's land you'd have a happy moment. All Muslims care about is Muslims and that's why don't care about you.

Perhaps when you can show me where Muslims are acquiring anyone else's land, then we can discuss that point, and you can truly see my reaction.

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Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists
Reply #243 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:09am

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:05am:

Psalms 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

Perhaps when the Psalms were written it was still pristine, by Jeremiah's time it clearly was not.

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:05am:

Abu, You worship Mohammed, the 'prophet of Allah' who tells moslems what wonderful people they are. And all moslems just suck it all up.

I openly and loudly proclaim, anyone who worships Muhammad (pbuh) is a hell-bound idolator like you. Can you openly proclaim the same about anyone who worships Jesus (pbuh)?

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:05am:

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."

Koran 3.110

I really can't see your problem with this verse Yadda. Those who enjoin good and forbid evil are of course the best nation. As for the perverted transgressors part, you are good evidence of this.

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:05am:

Abu which moslem community in the world, is the shining example of ISLAM's morality ???

Which group of moslem peoples are the exemplar of moslem people who are; 'enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah' ???

Was it the Taliban ???

Or is it Sudan, or Somalia, or is it the 'land of the pure' believers of Pakistan?

Or Malaysia, or Indonesia [where they burn churches and behead Christian school girls as a 'gift to Allah'], or Saudi Arabia, or Iran, or Jordan, or Yemen ?

I'm sure there's plenty of people in all these lands who do enjoin the good and forbid the evil. Executing criminals is indeed part of forbidding evil, your own book speaks at great length about this. Again, it's a pity you never read it, and instead make up your own idolatrous beliefs.

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:05am:

A 'married' 8-year-old girl, a victim of rape and abuse, seeks divorce from her husband in Yemen

This issue's been addressed enough times. It's only been about 150-200 years since the Christian world raised the age of consent, so the idea Christianity is adverse to it is just nonsense.

Btw, why did you not address the fact that your entire concept of covenant and blessing is based on deceiving a frail old blind man into cheating his son out of his inheritance?

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Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists
Reply #244 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:24am

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

Big Dave wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

The only reason you care is because it's Jews on Muslim land. Don't make out you care one iota about land acquisition. If it was Muslims taking somebody else's land you'd have a happy moment. All Muslims care about is Muslims and that's why don't care about you.

Perhaps when you can show me where Muslims are acquiring anyone else's land, then we can discuss that point, and you can truly see my reaction.

For a start;
Turkey, all of north Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, [we got Spain back!]....

These were all, military incursions, into non-moslem lands.i
Abu,

When are moslems going to return Turkey, and Hagia Sophia, to Christian authority ???

THIS GREAT CHRISTIAN CHURCH, WHICH WAS A MARVEL OF ENGINEERING FOR ITS AGE, WAS BUILT BY CHRISTIANS
AND IS A STRUCTURE, A CHRISTIAN HOLY PLACE, THAT WAS USURPED, STOLEN, BY ISLAM/MOSLEMS

When will moslems return it, to Christians ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #245 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:47am

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

Btw, why did you not address the fact that your entire concept of covenant and blessing is based on deceiving a frail old blind man into cheating his son out of his inheritance?

Abu,

Yes i concede, it was wrong, it was deceitful, the way in which Jacob obtained his fathers blessing.

But God, God, let the deception stand, for his own purpose.

But Esau was not worthy of the blessing, the inheritance, as a first son.

Esau himself, consented to sell his inheritance [as a first son], to Jacob, for a bowl of lentils.

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"....Remember, Israel still turned out exactly as God had planned, despite the human interference from deceitfulness, procrastination, blindness, the lack of caring, and all the other very human traits these characters showed in this story. When Jacob was ready to lie to his father's face, he was definitely just playing his part in Rebekah's plan to get for her favorite son what she felt he deserved. Esau had not merited his father's blessing of prosperity, while Jacob had. But the only way he could get it was through the human flaw of deceitfulness."

http://www.ezek22.net/s/gen.27.s.html

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #246 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 11:59am

I'll simplify it down for you dummy. Why should we care about one single thing to do with you muslims when your people don't even like us? I walk around around amongst muslims and they look right through you. I have nothing to do with muslims, don't know any, never had a muslim female speak to me or very few males speak to me.You and your mates call my family and other Australians kafur. If I had my way you wouldn't even be here. Why do I care?abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

Big Dave wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

The only reason you care is because it's Jews on Muslim land. Don't make out you care one iota about land acquisition. If it was Muslims taking somebody else's land you'd have a happy moment. All Muslims care about is Muslims and that's why don't care about you.

Perhaps when you can show me where Muslims are acquiring anyone else's land, then we can discuss that point, and you can truly see my reaction.

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Reply #247 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:19pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 9:51am:

Perhaps when you can show me where Muslims are acquiring anyone else's land, then we can discuss that point, and you can truly see my reaction.[/size]

For a start;
Turkey, all of north Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, [we got Spain back!]....

Perhaps you're not aware but the word "acquiring" is present tense continuous, not past tense.

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

These were all, military incursions, into non-moslem lands.

They became Muslim. The inhabitants embraced Islam, just as those lands weren't originally Christian either.

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

When are moslems going to return Turkey, and Hagia Sophia, to Christian authority ???

THIS GREAT CHRISTIAN CHURCH, WHICH WAS A MARVEL OF ENGINEERING FOR ITS AGE, WAS BUILT BY CHRISTIANS
AND IS A STRUCTURE, A CHRISTIAN HOLY PLACE, THAT WAS USURPED, STOLEN, BY ISLAM/MOSLEMS

When will moslems return it, to Christians ?

Are you going to return all the mosques which have been converted into churches?

Qasim Pasha mosque in Hungary, now a Catholic church.

How about all the mosques of Spain that are now cathedrals? Going to return them all? In Seville alone 70 mosques were converted into Churches. When are you giving them all back?

Grand Mosque of Cordoba, today a Catholic Cathedral.

Btw, one of the mosques I often attend is a former Church converted into a Mosque right here in Australia Grin

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Reply #248 - Nov 17^th, 2012 at 4:08pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 12:19pm:

Yadda wrote on Nov 17^th, 2012 at 10:24am:

These were all, military incursions, into non-moslem lands.

They became Muslim. The inhabitants embraced Islam,

just as those lands weren't originally Christian either.

Quote:

"The inhabitants embraced Islam..."

Of course they did.
/sarc off

ISLAMIC texts.......

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

"Well here we are. We have come to your land, we are the followers of Mohammed and Allah. And would you too like to embrace ISLAM ???

Well of course we would!"

Absurd.

Abu,

And do you think that you are going to Allah's paradise, for all of these LIES, that pretend that ISLAM is a virtue to humanity ?

"....I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads....."

Koran 8.012

"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land....."

Koran 8.67

Koran [8:67 above] meaning here, first moslems should beleaguer and slaughter their enemies in the land, to terrorise, to cower them.

And then later, moslems will more easily be able to defeat, and enslave a pliant, fearful enemy people, who are, 'the friends of Satan'.

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ISLAM has the sanction from Allah, to murder all of mankind, if they reject Allah's perfect religion.

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