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Reply #225 - Nov 12^th, 2012 at 11:45pm

Adamant wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 8:50pm:

Caliph Aziz son Hakim, one of your mob, slaughtered all and sundry. In about 1004 AD you devils forced the closure of Churches & Synagogues, turning them into the pagan worship of allah.

This particular Shiite, Shite caring Muslim burnt the Jewish quarter of Cairo. Not satisfied with this the sub human scum then destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

Fatimids have about as much relevance to mainstream Islam as Jesus (pbuh) does to mainstream Judaism.

Adamant wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 8:50pm:

And so endeth the second lesson

I see you've now abandoned (and thereby conceded) your other defective line of argument.

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Reply #226 - Nov 13^th, 2012 at 9:13am

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 12^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

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Abraham was in Canaan, at the age of 90 or 99 he circumcised himself did he do this to become a Jew or because God told him to do it. Year 1730 BC, God gave the land of Canaan to Abraham.

Jacob is blessed by Isaac in Canaan. He becomes the first Jew and starts the Jewish nation. God gives the land of Israel to Jacob. The Year 1590 BC.

Clearly you don't know what Jew means. A Jew is a descendant of Judah. Judah was a descendant of Abraham (pbuh), therefore claiming Abraham (pbuh) was a Jew is just ludicrous. Even to claim Judah was a Jew would be a stretch.

"A Jew is a descendant of Judah."

Correct.

But the Jews Judah was only one, of the 12 tribes of the Hebrew people, who ALL are the covenant people.

The other tribes [all of the Hebrew people] are now spread among the nations of the world, and are not identifiable - TO US [but God knows who we are]. [the woman, the wilderness, Revelation 12:6]

But the Jewish people today, ARE the remaining identifiable remnant of the Hebrew people, the covenant people of God.

They are the people that SATAN wishes to exterminate, as the only remaining, identifiable remnant of the Hebrew people - The covenant people of God.

But God will not, and never will, allow SATAN to destroy the last identifiable remnant of his covenant people.

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Also Abraham (pbuh) was the ancestor of not just Jews but Arabs and various other Semitic peoples of the Middle East,

Correct.

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........therefore such a claim is moot, as it applies to Arabs as well.

Incorrect.

The Ishmaelites [the Arab peoples] are the children of Abraham, but they are NOT a people who are in the covenant line.

The covenant line are Abraham, Isaac, Jacob [<--- Jacob, AKA 'Israel'].

And Israel's [Jacob's] line ARE the Hebrew people, the covenant people.

Genesis 50:24
And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die: and God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land unto the land which he sware to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

Exodus 2:24
And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.

Exodus 3:6
Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.......

Exodus 3:15
And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob,......

Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Deuteronomy 9:5
Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

......and many more verses referring to the covenant that God made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #227 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 8:48am Are you alright yadda? it wasn't you who handed yourself in yesterday, was it?
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Reply #228 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 6:17pm

Better go read your Bible again Yadda...

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In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Genesis 15:18

The only descendants of Abraham (pbuh) who lived in the land stretching from the great river of Egypt to the Euphrates were the Ishmaelite Arabs (during the Islamic Caliphate).

And also...

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This [is] my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

And Abraham [was] ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.

And Ishmael his son [was] thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.

In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son.

Genesis 17:10-26

Clearly the "token" of the covenant between God and Abraham (pbuh) was also made with Ishmael (pbuh) in the self same day. And the Arabs continued to keep this covenant right up until the present day, and therefore they did not break the covenant and become cut off from their people.

If only you actually read your own books instead of making up your own beliefs to suit your own vain desires.

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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #229 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 7:05pm The Jews live there now Abu so you may as well just get used to it.
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #230 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 7:10pm Big Dave wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 7:05pm: The Jews live there now Abu so you may as well just get used to it. Should the Polish, French etc... have got use to the Nazis who occupied their land as well?
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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #231 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 7:15pm There's no use banging on about something you can't change.bobbythefap1 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 7:10pm: Big Dave wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 7:05pm: The Jews live there now Abu so you may as well just get used to it. Should the Polish, French etc... have got use to the Nazis who occupied their land as well?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #232 - Nov 15^th, 2012 at 10:56pm Remember that little piece of advice.. when the Indonesians or the Chinese arrive here to claim Australia for themselves.
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Reply #233 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 4:32am

You'd love it if Indonesia took over. I wouldn't worry your little head about that happening though. That's about as much chance as a great muslim army driving the Jews into the sea.abu_rashid wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

Remember that little piece of advice.. when the Indonesians or the Chinese arrive here to claim Australia for themselves.

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Reply #234 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 5:52am

That's exactly what the Arabs thought when Jews started coming to Palestine... how complacent they were, and how they've suffered since for that under-estimation.

Anyway it shouldn't bother you, as you're perfectly happy with the idea of foreigners taking over your country right? You'll just "accept the reality" and get on with your life as a second class citizen in your own country.

I'd love nothing more than to see your kind eat their own words and swallow their own advice one day

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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #235 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 5:14pm I do well in life Osama Abu Rashid. I own a house , have children and am very comfortable. I couldn't be more happier. It's people like you I feel sorry for. I love seeing haters like you wallow your isolation and unhappiness.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: More Australian Muslim terrorists Reply #236 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:00pm So if someone took all that away from you... how do you think you'd react towards them? With the same kind of indifference you're suggesting others should?
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Reply #237 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:17pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 6:17pm:

Better go read your Bible again Yadda...

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In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Genesis 15:18

The only descendants of Abraham (pbuh) who lived in the land stretching from the great river of Egypt to the Euphrates were the Ishmaelite Arabs (during the Islamic Caliphate).

And also...

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This [is] my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

And Abraham [was] ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.

And Ishmael his son [was] thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.

In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son.

Genesis 17:10-26

Clearly the "token" of the covenant between God and Abraham (pbuh) was also made with Ishmael (pbuh) in the self same day. And the Arabs continued to keep this covenant right up until the present day, and therefore they did not break the covenant and become cut off from their people.

If only you actually read your own books instead of making up your own beliefs to suit your own vain desires.

Genesis 16:1
Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar.
2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.

Genesis 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Genesis 17:15
And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be.
16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.

Genesis 21:9
And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.
10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.

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"And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #238 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:28pm

'The land' belongs to God, and he, God, will give 'the land' to whom he will.

To his servants.

God will NOT give 'the land' to the servants of SATAN.

Matthew 6:9
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Thy kingdom come.

Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Amen.

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Reply #239 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:46pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:17pm:

Genesis 17:15
And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be.
16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.

Genesis 21:9
And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.
10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.
"And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Wouldn't be the first time the lying pens of the false scribes (Jeremiah 8:8) doctored the words of God to suit themselves.

Besides, really what kind of covenant could be built on robbing the eldest son of his inheritance? Not like it's the only case claimed in the corrupted texts anyway. The story of Esau is even more disturbing... a covenant and a "blessing" based on one brother lying to his blind father, putting goatskin on his body so he appears like his older [hairier] brother, in order to rob him of his inheritance, duping his father into bequeathing him with the so called covenant and blessing.... if this is what your covenant and your blessing is based on, then it's pretty empty. this is the routine kind of the stuff the Bible claims the entire Jewish favour is all about. and it is this Jewish favour that you worship as your idol.

Have you even bothered to read the book you put your trust in for your eternal salvation Yadda? My guess is if you actually did, you'd realise it's corrupted.

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