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Reply #45 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:57pm
 
The the onus should be on those claiming others are 'socks' to provide hard evidence.

Nevertheless, whether someone is a 'sock' shouldn't matter if you are confident in your argument. If you're confident in your position, then your opponent will fall, and all the 'socks' he/she is supposed to have will be defeated by that same argument.
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Reply #46 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 3:15pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
The the onus should be on those claiming others are 'socks' to provide hard evidence.

Nevertheless, whether someone is a 'sock' shouldn't matter if you are confident in your argument. If you're confident in your position, then your opponent will fall, and all the 'socks' he/she is supposed to have will be defeated by that same argument.


Yeah. the socks turn up when the original poster doesnt want to acknowledge a point.

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Reply #47 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 3:39pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
The the onus should be on those claiming others are 'socks' to provide hard evidence.

Nevertheless, whether someone is a 'sock' shouldn't matter if you are confident in your argument. If you're confident in your position, then your opponent will fall, and all the 'socks' he/she is supposed to have will be defeated by that same argument.

WHY? It is obvious with most of the sox. there is no need to prove anything,as I have already said my reason for pointing out the sock is out them I know it annoys them being outed, it puts the whole dishonesty of socking up back onto them. If they are stupid enough to think they fool anyone they are only fooling themselves, and those that depend on them pissing in their pocket.

Now, do have a comment on the thread or you just like,Andrei?
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Reply #48 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 4:52pm
 
The way NSW, Vic and Queensland are going it will be a long time before they vote Liberal or LNP again.
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Reply #49 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 4:56pm
 
skippy. wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 3:39pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
The the onus should be on those claiming others are 'socks' to provide hard evidence.

Nevertheless, whether someone is a 'sock' shouldn't matter if you are confident in your argument. If you're confident in your position, then your opponent will fall, and all the 'socks' he/she is supposed to have will be defeated by that same argument.

WHY? It is obvious with most of the sox. there is no need to prove anything,as I have already said my reason for pointing out the sock is out them I know it annoys them being outed, it puts the whole dishonesty of socking up back onto them. If they are stupid enough to think they fool anyone they are only fooling themselves, and those that depend on them pissing in their pocket.

Now, do have a comment on the thread or you just like,Andrei?


It gets beyond a joke when people like Aussie's only answer to anyone that disagreed with him was that they are Mellie's sock.  What was even funnier was Aussie joined AFTER Mellie left!

If your only counter arguement is to call someone a sock, then you dont have any at all.

Who gives a crap if they are a "sock" or not, still doesnt change what it is they have said to counter your point.

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Reply #50 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:01pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 9:01am:
What  this tells me is that Australians like labor, but hate gillard (out of the news).  Change leader and they will win the election.


The voices in your head might be telling you that because no one else is.

Even the head of NewsPOll warned that such a rise is fairly typical of times like during the Olympics where people's minds go off politics. The real test is if she can hold this figure in a months time. And in case anyone forgets (and you all do, so it seems), we have seen these kinds of rises before only to see them evaporate and head south of 30% again. It may be a false dawn and given that Abbott is still preferred PM and the Libs maintain a massive margin, there is nothing to be excited about.

Anyone with the ability to remember polls in the past wil ahve seen it all before - all to no avail in the end. Why do so many of you have the memory of a goldfish?
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Reply #51 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:19pm
 
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It gets beyond a joke when people like Aussie's only answer to anyone that disagreed with him was that they are Mellie's sock.  What was even funnier was Aussie joined AFTER Mellie left!


So, now I am a skippy. sock?

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Reply #52 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:26pm
 
skippy. wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 3:39pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
The the onus should be on those claiming others are 'socks' to provide hard evidence.

Nevertheless, whether someone is a 'sock' shouldn't matter if you are confident in your argument. If you're confident in your position, then your opponent will fall, and all the 'socks' he/she is supposed to have will be defeated by that same argument.

WHY? It is obvious with most of the sox. there is no need to prove anything,as I have already said my reason for pointing out the sock is out them I know it annoys them being outed, it puts the whole dishonesty of socking up back onto them. If they are stupid enough to think they fool anyone they are only fooling themselves, and those that depend on them pissing in their pocket.

Now, do have a comment on the thread or you just like,Andrei?


Provide evidence. Just saying 'it is obvious' doesn't cut it.
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Reply #53 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:30pm
 
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Provide evidence. Just saying 'it is obvious' doesn't cut it.


So....it seems the Mods are happy that this continue here. 

If they are using proxies to post, it is extremely likely they are socks.  If you have nothing to hide, you do not need to use a proxy.

Ban anyone using a proxy IP to post.  Easy to pick.
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Reply #54 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:33pm
 
Gist wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 9:49am:
Guildford wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 9:09am:
Greens support down a massive 10%, so much for steady voter base.

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You dope. They went from 11% to 10% - that's a 1% fall not a 10% fall. In future please leave the numbers to people who can count.


Oh really? it is actually a 9.1% drop. You really should leave the maths to those that studied it beyond year 8.
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Reply #55 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:34pm
 
Shane B wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:05am:
Anyway, Essential Media have been more consistent.

Their report still has Labor at 44 per cent versus 56 per cent to the Coalition.

http://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport


except they are never right or even close. ignore essential research. They are essentially wrong.
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Reply #56 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:39pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:44am:
Shane B wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 9:00am:
LOL @ skippy.

The poll is just a false dawn.

Gillard has been hiding away on and people are watching the olympics.

Congrats on your optimism.


what have the olympics got to do with it? Wow - ive seen some irrelevant strawmen but that is a doozy.

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Well the comment comes from the head of NewsPoll and Im tipping he is brighter and more experienced in such matters than you. its the same reason why the SA govt plans so many festivals and events in March because every 4 years there is an election - in March. You've never heard of 'voter distraction' before?
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Reply #57 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:40pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 12:01pm:
You're like a child.
I can't believe you are a grown man.


All you do is go on about how someone is someone else, someone is Mellie etc etc etc.

It's a politics forum. Make some comments on that rather than all this socks crap.

And why do you people all seem to need to go on about Righties v Lefties and all that bullsh*t.

Just fking post opinions and stop behaving like children.

For supposedly grown adults you are like children you really are.

THAT is my point.

Your responses to me and the fact you can't see what I am saying speaks volumes.


*thunderous applause*

sock fetish and left/right debates by people who dont know left from right...

Its a joke usually.
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Reply #58 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:45pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 1:13pm:
Firstly I want to agree with Andrei, the abuse and level of sensible debate are in inverse proportion, and when one goes up, the other invariably goes down.
Mad mel is a serial loon, we have unfortunately seen morph through so many ID's that any idiotic ultra right foolishness is assumed to be her in a new guise, but as we know from listening to talkback radio, she is not the only nut in the packet, so sounding like mad mel does not prove it is mad mel, so better to stop assuming, and just address the issues.

The issue I think this thread highlights for me is that whilst the media is still firmly backing the coalition, and slagging Labor incessantly still, the actions of the Liberal State Govenments is reminding people what the Libs deliver in power.
Attacks on Health and Education services is always where they start, and the closing of Swinburne University Campuses in Lilydale, and Prahran, with the loss of initially 500 teachers jobs, with more to follow next year is exactly what will be echoed across the whole country, under an Abbott Government.
Running down services and infrastructure, and overseeing the lowering of standards across the whole education system will be the inevitable result, with the attached social degradation that goes hand in hand with less youth engagement in education.
Now while some won't care, the fact is that those five hundred folks losing their jobs have friends and families, and many were coalition supporters, but witnessing this education vandalism has many questioning if they could continue to support a party who destroys education opportunity for our future.

That type of reaction will be repeated as these right wing governments continue to remind people what Liberal Parties deliver, and so I think the longer it is before the Federal Election, the less people will fall at Abbotts feet, despite the best efforts of the media to portray Labor as an unsupportable option.
I still think he will win easily, but not QLD style, because down south we do not have the same lemming mentality going.


Perhaps these Liberal governments want to try something completely unknown in labor circles - living with your means. All of these Liberal govts are faced with truly massive debt problems and unlike Labor, takes these things seriously. What I find amazing is if you try and engage a labor supporter into the 'balanced budget' debate, all they do is run and hide or refer to Howard. How about a little reality and facing up to the truth of proper balanced budgets. Or would you rather massive increases in taxes?
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Reply #59 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 5:47pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:36pm:
skippy. wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 9:03am:
And there is one now, right on cue, morning mellie, hows boganville this morning sweet thing?



Yeah heaven forbid we de-rail such insightful political commentary as this.....


I am trying to work out how you could possibly derail an already derailed thread. According to the marsupial, everyone is a sock. Obviously his foot and sock fetish is an obsessive problem.
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