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UN Set To Ban Civilian Gun Ownership
Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am
 
I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.

Emergency Alert! UN Set To Ban Civilian Gun Ownership
http://www.infowars.com/border-staff-let-in-terror-suspects-ahead-of-olympics/
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The United Nations’ agenda for disarmament goes beyond the rhetoric the UN Arms Trade Treaty being debated in New York this month. The globalists want a total weapons ban– so they can kill innocents without opposition from the local populations. Crime rates soar wherever guns have been taken away– it is simple victim disarmament arithmetic. Look at all the uncovered martial law revelations: Troops have been trained to confiscate guns inside America (and it actually happened after Hurricane Katrina), while the politicians have been priming the nation to grudgingly accept new firearms restrictions.

See Aaron Dykes’ video analysis of the UN Arms Trade Treaty: Proof: UN Plans To Ban American Guns:
http://www.infowars.com/proof-un-plans-to-ban-american-guns/




Reason.com: Controlling Guns, Controlling People: http://reason.com/archives/2011/12/21/controlling-guns-controlling-people
A new history shows how gun control goes hand in hand with fear of black people—and The People.

Death by “Gun Control”

Mirrored from JPFO.org

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The message is simple: Disarmed people are neither free nor safe – they become the criminals’ prey and the tyrants’ playthings. When the civilians are defenseless and their government goes bad, however, thousands and millions of innocents die.

Professor R.J. Rummel, author of the monumental book Death by Government, said: “Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth.” For power to concentrate and become dangerous, the citizens must be disarmed.

What disarms the citizens? The idea of “gun control.” It’s the idea that only the government has the right to possess firearms, and that citizens have no unalienable right to use force to defend against aggression.

Death by Gun Control carefully examines the “gun control” idea: its meaning, its purposes, its effects. It comes in many forms, but in every form it enables the evildoers and works against righteous defense.

The Mother of All Stats: The Human Cost of “Gun Control” Ideas
http://static.infowars.com/2012/07/i/general/JPFO-genocide_Chart.jpg

When the gun prohibitionists quote a statistic about how many people are killed by firearms misuse, the discussion sometimes bogs down into whose crime stats to believe and how to count crimes vs. the defensive firearm uses. Death by Gun Control works on a level that nobody can dispute: documented world history.

In the 20th Century:

Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.
Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.

How could governments kill so many people? The governments had the power – and the people, the victims, were unable to resist. The victims were unarmed.

Truth They Cannot Refute

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Here’s the Formula: Hatred + Government + Disarmed Civilians = Genocide

What makes the argument so powerful? Two factors. First, it makes common sense: unarmed defenseless people have no hope against armed aggressors. Second, it states the historical truth: evil governments did wipe out 170,000,000 innocent non-military lives in the 20th Century alone.

Using the facts in Death by Gun Control, you can take down the enemies of the Bill of Rights. The rights-destroyers have no answers to these facts. They have no excuses for their killer ideas.

JPFO’s work has already borne fruit. John R. Bolton, an under-Secretary of State for the United States, this year urged the United Nations to recognize how an “oppressed non-state group defending itself from a genocidal government” will need ready access to firearms. Mr. Bolton might have been the first U.S. official in modern history to have argued to the UN that private citizens might need to be armed against their own killer governments.

Paul Harvey, the world-renowned and much admired radio commentator, last year reportedly broadcast the JPFO-produced facts linking “gun control” to the genocide of millions of unarmed civilians. Country by country, Mr. Harvey counted the murdered victims of civilian disarmament policies.

Our new book could inspire other opinion-makers to join the chorus. Chapters in the book teach about:

The essential meaning of “gun control”
The Genocide Formula
The laws and policies that led to mega murder in Cambodia, China, Nazi Germany, Guatemala, Rwanda, Ottoman Turkey, Uganda, USSR
Zimbabwe’s land invasions and firearms confiscations
Soaring crime in Britain after gun prohibition
Violence and police state polices in Japan
The right and duty of armed self-defense in Judaism and both Protestant and Catholic Christianity
Racist roots of “gun control” in America
The United Nations program to disarm civilians worldwide
Police state polices that condition Americans to accept victim disarmament.

Hurricane Katrina Door to Door Firearms Confiscation


The JPFO Genocide Chart
http://jpfo.org/pdf02/genocide-chart.pdf
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Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2012 at 1:57pm
 
You're not one of those who believe in increasing gun ownership are you?

I just don't trust the general population when it comes to guns. There's no guarantee that they won't end up in the black market or get passed on to criminal gangs. It disturbs me that people think their country's Constitution can't protect them with laws restricting the powers of the executive, legislative and judicial branches and the police and armed forces. What's the chance of Hitler coming to power in Australia?

School and university shootings and bank robberies should be a good enough reason not to allow private ownership of guns. How many people are robbed at gun point? Guns give people another way to commit homicide. They mean you can hire assassins to kill your estranged spouse and make death threats more credible due to the chance of you owning a firearm or having the means to hire an assassin.
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Reply #2 - Jul 16th, 2012 at 4:16pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am:
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I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.

In the 20th Century:

Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.


The most recent count on WWII has reached 72 million. The previous count totalled 44 million. Lets double that, what with WWI and all the Internicines that have added to the total before and since ...

Fair ?  144 million roughly ? multiply by 4 = 576 million or 0.576 billion

What govt killed half a billion people outside international and domestic wars between 1900 and 2000 ?

Did they have anyone left to vote ? Or did they kill all they're own supporters as well ... just to reach the total ?

If that main fact is 'Horse Shyt' ... then so is all the rest ?


Zac the Black


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Reply #3 - Jul 16th, 2012 at 5:28pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am:
I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.



It's WHAT they said that most people don't believe...
And it's not a matter of not liking the source...it's not 'trusting' the source
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Reply #4 - Jul 16th, 2012 at 5:35pm
 
I don't care what the source is, because it doesn't matter if it's all true. It obviously has political views that are different to my own.
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Reply #5 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:23am
 
Do you trust politicians ???



"Right is only in question between equals, and while the strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must."

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Reply #6 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:48am
 
Mnemonic wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 1:57pm:
You're not one of those who believe in increasing gun ownership are you?

I just don't trust the general population when it comes to guns. There's no guarantee that they won't end up in the black market or get passed on to criminal gangs. It disturbs me that people think their country's Constitution can't protect them with laws restricting the powers of the executive, legislative and judicial branches and the police and armed forces. What's the chance of Hitler coming to power in Australia?

School and university shootings and bank robberies should be a good enough reason not to allow private ownership of guns. How many people are robbed at gun point? Guns give people another way to commit homicide. They mean you can hire assassins to kill your estranged spouse and make death threats more credible due to the chance of you owning a firearm or having the means to hire an assassin.

I believe that people should have the freedom to do what they want.
I don't trust the government and large corporations being the only people with weapons.

The black market already has plenty of guns on it, more then enough to go around.
When weapons laws are in effect, all they do is stop the good people getting guns; if you haven't noticed there are plenty of bad people with them.
It is important to note that the US government is the biggest player in the arms trade and have been giving arms to dangerous gangs and murderous governments for decades, is that the kind of think you do not want protection from?
Their constitution has already been raped to death.

The crimes of one person should not be used to restrict or punish another.
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Reply #7 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:51am
 
Mutawintji wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 4:16pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am:
.

I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.

In the 20th Century:

Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.


The most recent count on WWII has reached 72 million. The previous count totalled 44 million. Lets double that, what with WWI and all the Internicines that have added to the total before and since ...

Fair ?  144 million roughly ? multiply by 4 = 576 million or 0.576 billion

What govt killed half a billion people outside international and domestic wars between 1900 and 2000 ?

Did they have anyone left to vote ? Or did they kill all they're own supporters as well ... just to reach the total ?

If that main fact is 'Horse Shyt' ... then so is all the rest ?


Zac the Black


The specific number is sort of irrelevant. But if you account for other things i.e. non-direct methods of violence like mass poverty enforced by western governments and the financial system the number would be a lot higher.

The rest of the article is fairly sound, just open your eyes because it is happening.

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Reply #8 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:53am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 5:28pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am:
I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.



It's WHAT they said that most people don't believe...
And it's not a matter of not liking the source...it's not 'trusting' the source

So what did they say?
Are you denying the UN is trying to take guns away?
Are you basing your opinion on what is presented in this article, or your preconceived ideas of the presenter?
Because the latter is irrelevant here.
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Reply #9 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:26pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:53am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 5:28pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am:
I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.



It's WHAT they said that most people don't believe...
And it's not a matter of not liking the source...it's not 'trusting' the source

So what did they say?
Are you denying the UN is trying to take guns away?
Are you basing your opinion on what is presented in this article, or your preconceived ideas of the presenter?
Because the latter is irrelevant here.


you'd believe anything.... the UN has zero power to acheive anything. it most certainly has zero power to override national soveriengty.

and if it comes from infowars then you can be SURE its crap.
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Reply #10 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:32pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:53am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 5:28pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am:
I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.



It's WHAT they said that most people don't believe...
And it's not a matter of not liking the source...it's not 'trusting' the source

So what did they say?
Are you denying the UN is trying to take guns away?
Are you basing your opinion on what is presented in this article, or your preconceived ideas of the presenter?
Because the latter is irrelevant here.


you'd believe anything.... the UN has zero power to acheive anything. it most certainly has zero power to override national soveriengty.

and if it comes from infowars then you can be SURE its crap.

Coming from a man who believes in fairy tales..
Yes cause the removal of guns in Australia was a strictly Australian idea, just like all the other countries.

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Reply #11 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 3:25pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:32pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:53am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 5:28pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am:
I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.



It's WHAT they said that most people don't believe...
And it's not a matter of not liking the source...it's not 'trusting' the source

So what did they say?
Are you denying the UN is trying to take guns away?
Are you basing your opinion on what is presented in this article, or your preconceived ideas of the presenter?
Because the latter is irrelevant here.


you'd believe anything.... the UN has zero power to acheive anything. it most certainly has zero power to override national soveriengty.

and if it comes from infowars then you can be SURE its crap.

Coming from a man who believes in fairy tales..
Yes cause the removal of guns in Australia was a strictly Australian idea, just like all the other countries.



you believe in INFOWARS. that makes you an idiot
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Reply #12 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:02pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 3:25pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:32pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:53am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 5:28pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 11:22am:
I know you don't like the source, but I'm not posting it because of who said it; rather what they said.



It's WHAT they said that most people don't believe...
And it's not a matter of not liking the source...it's not 'trusting' the source

So what did they say?
Are you denying the UN is trying to take guns away?
Are you basing your opinion on what is presented in this article, or your preconceived ideas of the presenter?
Because the latter is irrelevant here.


you'd believe anything.... the UN has zero power to acheive anything. it most certainly has zero power to override national soveriengty.

and if it comes from infowars then you can be SURE its crap.

Coming from a man who believes in fairy tales..
Yes cause the removal of guns in Australia was a strictly Australian idea, just like all the other countries.



you believe in INFOWARS. that makes you an idiot

What makes you believe that?
I don't believe any source, hence why I visit multiple different ones.
Unlike you I am able to review the information presented without bias.
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Reply #13 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:10pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:48am:
Mnemonic wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 1:57pm:
You're not one of those who believe in increasing gun ownership are you?

I just don't trust the general population when it comes to guns. There's no guarantee that they won't end up in the black market or get passed on to criminal gangs. It disturbs me that people think their country's Constitution can't protect them with laws restricting the powers of the executive, legislative and judicial branches and the police and armed forces. What's the chance of Hitler coming to power in Australia?

School and university shootings and bank robberies should be a good enough reason not to allow private ownership of guns. How many people are robbed at gun point? Guns give people another way to commit homicide. They mean you can hire assassins to kill your estranged spouse and make death threats more credible due to the chance of you owning a firearm or having the means to hire an assassin.

I believe that people should have the freedom to do what they want.
I don't trust the government and large corporations being the only people with weapons.

The black market already has plenty of guns on it, more then enough to go around.
When weapons laws are in effect, all they do is stop the good people getting guns; if you haven't noticed there are plenty of bad people with them.
It is important to note that the US government is the biggest player in the arms trade and have been giving arms to dangerous gangs and murderous governments for decades, is that the kind of think you do not want protection from?
Their constitution has already been raped to death.

The crimes of one person should not be used to restrict or punish another.


There was a scandal in the United States recently, which I think is still ongoing. Some government-sanctioned program resulted in a large amount of guns falling into the hands of Mexican drug gangs.
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Reply #14 - Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:17pm
 
Shane B wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:10pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 17th, 2012 at 9:48am:
Mnemonic wrote on Jul 16th, 2012 at 1:57pm:
You're not one of those who believe in increasing gun ownership are you?

I just don't trust the general population when it comes to guns. There's no guarantee that they won't end up in the black market or get passed on to criminal gangs. It disturbs me that people think their country's Constitution can't protect them with laws restricting the powers of the executive, legislative and judicial branches and the police and armed forces. What's the chance of Hitler coming to power in Australia?

School and university shootings and bank robberies should be a good enough reason not to allow private ownership of guns. How many people are robbed at gun point? Guns give people another way to commit homicide. They mean you can hire assassins to kill your estranged spouse and make death threats more credible due to the chance of you owning a firearm or having the means to hire an assassin.

I believe that people should have the freedom to do what they want.
I don't trust the government and large corporations being the only people with weapons.

The black market already has plenty of guns on it, more then enough to go around.
When weapons laws are in effect, all they do is stop the good people getting guns; if you haven't noticed there are plenty of bad people with them.
It is important to note that the US government is the biggest player in the arms trade and have been giving arms to dangerous gangs and murderous governments for decades, is that the kind of think you do not want protection from?
Their constitution has already been raped to death.

The crimes of one person should not be used to restrict or punish another.


There was a scandal in the United States recently, which I think is still ongoing. Some government-sanctioned program resulted in a large amount of guns falling into the hands of Mexican drug gangs.
Yeah it was called the 'fast and the furious'.
Apparently they were trying to track the route of the guns to the cartels.

Many people believe that certain elements of the US government has been active in perpetuating instability in Mexico. On its own it seems unlikely but when you consider the huge number of dangerous international governments/regimes, gangs, militias, terrorist groups they have bank rolled and heavily armed in the past its certainly a possibility; there is no doubt that the benefits are great.
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