bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:36am:


Hence why I stress the fact that CONVENTIONALLY the US can curbstomp Russia.  Problem is that Russia is a nuclear power, and the fun benefits of being a nuclear power is that 1. you can't get your ass kicked by another nuclear power, and 2. you no longer have to ever worry about a nation invading you.

There's an old saying in my line of work that applies here.

"One flies, they all fly."

Meaning is that once a single nuclear weapon is used all sides involved that have them will use them.  If you don't believe me, just ask and I'll explain why. 


bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 9:36am:


I take this sort of thing seriously as well.  The last sixty years or so bears out my claim that the Russians will not get involved in a conflict in Syria other than to secure their naval base simply because they have nuclear weapons and NATO has them.  We've sent six decades or so doing our level damnedest to not get into a  confrontation that we both knew would go nuclear, so why would we start now?

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:


Russia's military isn't even a shadow of what it was under the USSR. They don't have anywhere near the naval assets to contest the US Navy, their Air Force is kind of a joke now, and they're army is still a pack of poorly trained conscripts. Conventionally we'd have an easy time of it.  Sure, we'd take some losses, but the k/d ratio would be so hilariously skewed in our favor it resemble clubbing baby harp seals.

If you'd like I can take the time to give you a full order of battle for our military and theirs so you can see the massive disparity of forces here.


bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:


The last thing the world needs is more nuclear armed nations. The more nations that have them the greater the likelihood that an irrational state actor will get them and use them.


bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:


They don't go looking for trouble because they can't afford to do it.  Their economy is seriously jacked up. 


bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:


It's not a misconception. We really are that much more capable than either Russia or China militarily. Neither country has the ability to project military power outside of their region, and even then only on land.


bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:


Yeah, the history of the Cold War says you're wrong here.  We all go to great lengths to not get into direct conflicts with each other simply because we all have nuclear weapons.

Let's have one ding dong battle and get it over with.
Then we can all go back to watching telly

The problem is that this crap is decided by[ppl in suits in lil rooms far far away from the "trouble" and all the ppl it effects.

SOB