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Baronvonrort

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #90 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

We dont want boat people at all.

Don't include me in that "we".

I have no problem with assisting legal asylum seekers.

What is it about helping legal asylum seekers that bothers you? What do you have against assisting fellow humans in need?

The point - which you fail to acknowledge - is that most people DO consider them illegals. And their argument is rather compelling. You dont gain anything by an argument such as yours which is entirely one of terminology.

Facts.

They are legal asylum seekers.

Except we don't know who they are because they have destroyed their IDs.

How do you know they are telling the truth? You have no way of identifying them and so you have no way of verifying what they say. Fact.

They can give you a well-rehearsed story about someone else and you wouldn't know whether they are lying or not. Fact.

SO you give them the benefit of doubt. Others don't because they are aware that there is a racket going with this no-name asylum caper.

thats another fallicy perpetrated by the liberal government ...while some do throw away passports ... most retain some form of ID. Thorwing away everything means they risk spending years in detention ...

3200 out of 3237 boat people surveyed ,almost 99% of them admitted to disposing of their passports after flying into Indonesia with a passport

Its on the Labor minister's website so why does this become a fallacy by the liberals,are labor supporters ignorant or stupid or a combination of both?
Linky-http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/cb/2012/cb182430.htm

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #91 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

We dont want boat people at all.

Don't include me in that "we".

I have no problem with assisting legal asylum seekers.

What is it about helping legal asylum seekers that bothers you? What do you have against assisting fellow humans in need?

The point - which you fail to acknowledge - is that most people DO consider them illegals. And their argument is rather compelling. You dont gain anything by an argument such as yours which is entirely one of terminology.

Facts.

They are legal asylum seekers.

Except we don't know who they are because they have destroyed their IDs.

How do you know they are telling the truth? You have no way of identifying them and so you have no way of verifying what they say. Fact.

They can give you a well-rehearsed story about someone else and you wouldn't know whether they are lying or not. Fact.

SO you give them the benefit of doubt. Others don't because they are aware that there is a racket going with this no-name asylum caper.

thats another fallicy perpetrated by the liberal government ...while some do throw away passports ... most retain some form of ID. Thorwing away everything means they risk spending years in detention ...

3200 out of 3237 boat people surveyed ,almost 99% of them admitted to disposing of their passports after flying into Indonesia with a passport

Its on the Labor minister's website so why does this become a fallacy by the liberals,are labor supporters ignorant or stupid or a combination of both?
Linky-http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/cb/2012/cb182430.htm

It seems that you are stupid and ignorant ... and incapable of basic English ... I did say some throw away passports (highlighted) ... BUT MOST have some other form of identification ... drivers license, library membership, swingers club membership ,....

OTHER

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #92 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:17pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 6:09am:

Labor has been caught with its pants down after the AFP contradicted what Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare told reporters about the "interception" of the latest boatload of illegal immigrants. Oh, by the way - that's 11 boats in 11 days and that makes it well over 700 people this month already.

What would you post about if the boats actually stopped?

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Baronvonrort

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #93 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:24pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

We dont want boat people at all.

Don't include me in that "we".

I have no problem with assisting legal asylum seekers.

What is it about helping legal asylum seekers that bothers you? What do you have against assisting fellow humans in need?

The point - which you fail to acknowledge - is that most people DO consider them illegals. And their argument is rather compelling. You dont gain anything by an argument such as yours which is entirely one of terminology.

Facts.

They are legal asylum seekers.

Except we don't know who they are because they have destroyed their IDs.

How do you know they are telling the truth? You have no way of identifying them and so you have no way of verifying what they say. Fact.

They can give you a well-rehearsed story about someone else and you wouldn't know whether they are lying or not. Fact.

SO you give them the benefit of doubt. Others don't because they are aware that there is a racket going with this no-name asylum caper.

thats another fallicy perpetrated by the liberal government ...while some do throw away passports ... most retain some form of ID. Thorwing away everything means they risk spending years in detention ...

3200 out of 3237 boat people surveyed ,almost 99% of them admitted to disposing of their passports after flying into Indonesia with a passport

Its on the Labor minister's website so why does this become a fallacy by the liberals,are labor supporters ignorant or stupid or a combination of both?
Linky-http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/cb/2012/cb182430.htm

It seems that you are stupid and ignorant ... and incapable of basic English ... I did say some throw away passports (highlighted) ... BUT MOST have some other form of identification ... drivers license, library membership, swingers club membership ,....

OTHER

You did say the fact that almost 99% of boat people surveyed destroyed their passports before coming to Australia was a fallacy perpetrated by the liberals when the truth is this information can be found on the Labor immigration ministers website.

The leftists have no shame in telling lies to cover up this billion dollar debacle caused by a myopic labor PM.

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John Smith

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #95 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:40pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

We dont want boat people at all.

Don't include me in that "we".

I have no problem with assisting legal asylum seekers.

What is it about helping legal asylum seekers that bothers you? What do you have against assisting fellow humans in need?

The point - which you fail to acknowledge - is that most people DO consider them illegals. And their argument is rather compelling. You dont gain anything by an argument such as yours which is entirely one of terminology.

Facts.

They are legal asylum seekers.

Except we don't know who they are because they have destroyed their IDs.

How do you know they are telling the truth? You have no way of identifying them and so you have no way of verifying what they say. Fact.

They can give you a well-rehearsed story about someone else and you wouldn't know whether they are lying or not. Fact.

SO you give them the benefit of doubt. Others don't because they are aware that there is a racket going with this no-name asylum caper.

thats another fallicy perpetrated by the liberal government ...while some do throw away passports ... most retain some form of ID. Thorwing away everything means they risk spending years in detention ...

3200 out of 3237 boat people surveyed ,almost 99% of them admitted to disposing of their passports after flying into Indonesia with a passport

Its on the Labor minister's website so why does this become a fallacy by the liberals,are labor supporters ignorant or stupid or a combination of both?
Linky-http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/cb/2012/cb182430.htm

It seems that you are stupid and ignorant ... and incapable of basic English ... I did say some throw away passports (highlighted) ... BUT MOST have some other form of identification ... drivers license, library membership, swingers club membership ,....

OTHER

You did say the fact that almost 99% of boat people surveyed destroyed their passports before coming to Australia was a fallacy perpetrated by the liberals when the truth is this information can be found on the Labor immigration ministers website.

The leftists have no shame in telling lies to cover up this billion dollar debacle caused by a myopic labor PM.

I never said any such thing ... no wonder you righties think everything is a lie ... you hear all these imaginary voices in your head and then can't understand when real people don't do what those voices told you ...

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #96 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:47pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:40pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

We dont want boat people at all.

Don't include me in that "we".

I have no problem with assisting legal asylum seekers.

What is it about helping legal asylum seekers that bothers you? What do you have against assisting fellow humans in need?

The point - which you fail to acknowledge - is that most people DO consider them illegals. And their argument is rather compelling. You dont gain anything by an argument such as yours which is entirely one of terminology.

Facts.

They are legal asylum seekers.

Except we don't know who they are because they have destroyed their IDs.

How do you know they are telling the truth? You have no way of identifying them and so you have no way of verifying what they say. Fact.

They can give you a well-rehearsed story about someone else and you wouldn't know whether they are lying or not. Fact.

SO you give them the benefit of doubt. Others don't because they are aware that there is a racket going with this no-name asylum caper.

thats another fallicy perpetrated by the liberal government ...while some do throw away passports ... most retain some form of ID. Thorwing away everything means they risk spending years in detention ...

3200 out of 3237 boat people surveyed ,almost 99% of them admitted to disposing of their passports after flying into Indonesia with a passport

Its on the Labor minister's website so why does this become a fallacy by the liberals,are labor supporters ignorant or stupid or a combination of both?
Linky-http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/cb/2012/cb182430.htm

It seems that you are stupid and ignorant ... and incapable of basic English ... I did say some throw away passports (highlighted) ... BUT MOST have some other form of identification ... drivers license, library membership, swingers club membership ,....

OTHER

You did say the fact that almost 99% of boat people surveyed destroyed their passports before coming to Australia was a fallacy perpetrated by the liberals when the truth is this information can be found on the Labor immigration ministers website.

The leftists have no shame in telling lies to cover up this billion dollar debacle caused by a myopic labor PM.

I never said any such thing ... no wonder you righties think everything is a lie ... you hear all these imaginary voices in your head and then can't understand when real people don't do what those voices told you ...

Maybe you need help with the word 'some'. If you need help after research, I am here to help. All you gotta do is ask.

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #97 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:50pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:40pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

We dont want boat people at all.

Don't include me in that "we".

I have no problem with assisting legal asylum seekers.

What is it about helping legal asylum seekers that bothers you? What do you have against assisting fellow humans in need?

The point - which you fail to acknowledge - is that most people DO consider them illegals. And their argument is rather compelling. You dont gain anything by an argument such as yours which is entirely one of terminology.

Facts.

They are legal asylum seekers.

Except we don't know who they are because they have destroyed their IDs.

How do you know they are telling the truth? You have no way of identifying them and so you have no way of verifying what they say. Fact.

They can give you a well-rehearsed story about someone else and you wouldn't know whether they are lying or not. Fact.

SO you give them the benefit of doubt. Others don't because they are aware that there is a racket going with this no-name asylum caper.

thats another fallicy perpetrated by the liberal government ...while some do throw away passports ... most retain some form of ID. Thorwing away everything means they risk spending years in detention ...

3200 out of 3237 boat people surveyed ,almost 99% of them admitted to disposing of their passports after flying into Indonesia with a passport

Its on the Labor minister's website so why does this become a fallacy by the liberals,are labor supporters ignorant or stupid or a combination of both?
Linky-http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/cb/2012/cb182430.htm

It seems that you are stupid and ignorant ... and incapable of basic English ... I did say some throw away passports (highlighted) ... BUT MOST have some other form of identification ... drivers license, library membership, swingers club membership ,....

OTHER

You did say the fact that almost 99% of boat people surveyed destroyed their passports before coming to Australia was a fallacy perpetrated by the liberals when the truth is this information can be found on the Labor immigration ministers website.

The leftists have no shame in telling lies to cover up this billion dollar debacle caused by a myopic labor PM.

I never said any such thing ... no wonder you righties think everything is a lie ... you hear all these imaginary voices in your head and then can't understand when real people don't do what those voices told you ...

Maybe you need help with the word 'some'. If you need help after research, I am here to help. All you gotta do is ask.

welcome to the debate stupid ... if you have to get involved at least read the previous posts before you open your mouth ... where did I say what Baronvort claims I have said ... or have you voices in your head as well?

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #98 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:58pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 6:40pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

We dont want boat people at all.

Don't include me in that "we".

I have no problem with assisting legal asylum seekers.

What is it about helping legal asylum seekers that bothers you? What do you have against assisting fellow humans in need?

The point - which you fail to acknowledge - is that most people DO consider them illegals. And their argument is rather compelling. You dont gain anything by an argument such as yours which is entirely one of terminology.

Facts.

They are legal asylum seekers.

Except we don't know who they are because they have destroyed their IDs.

How do you know they are telling the truth? You have no way of identifying them and so you have no way of verifying what they say. Fact.

They can give you a well-rehearsed story about someone else and you wouldn't know whether they are lying or not. Fact.

SO you give them the benefit of doubt. Others don't because they are aware that there is a racket going with this no-name asylum caper.

thats another fallicy perpetrated by the liberal government ...while some do throw away passports ... most retain some form of ID. Thorwing away everything means they risk spending years in detention ...

3200 out of 3237 boat people surveyed ,almost 99% of them admitted to disposing of their passports after flying into Indonesia with a passport

Its on the Labor minister's website so why does this become a fallacy by the liberals,are labor supporters ignorant or stupid or a combination of both?
Linky-http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/cb/2012/cb182430.htm

It seems that you are stupid and ignorant ... and incapable of basic English ... I did say some throw away passports (highlighted) ... BUT MOST have some other form of identification ... drivers license, library membership, swingers club membership ,....

OTHER

You did say the fact that almost 99% of boat people surveyed destroyed their passports before coming to Australia was a fallacy perpetrated by the liberals when the truth is this information can be found on the Labor immigration ministers website.

The leftists have no shame in telling lies to cover up this billion dollar debacle caused by a myopic labor PM.

I never said any such thing ... no wonder you righties think everything is a lie ... you hear all these imaginary voices in your head and then can't understand when real people don't do what those voices told you ...

Maybe you need help with the word 'some'. If you need help after research, I am here to help. All you gotta do is ask.

welcome to the debate stupid ... if you have to get involved at least read the previous posts before you open your mouth ... where did I say what Baronvort claims I have said ... or have you voices in your head as well?

Dont mind me. I am here to help is all.

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It seems that you are stupid and ignorant ... and incapable of basic English ... I did say some throw away passports (highlighted) ... BUT MOST have some other form of identification ... drivers license, library membership, swingers club membership ,....

OTHER

Just helping, not debating. ie the word some, would be most

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #99 - Jul 5^th, 2012 at 9:12pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 6:31am:

Prime Minister Julia Gillard yesterday baulked at explaining the discrepancies. "I'll wait until we've got the full advice from relevant authorities," she said.

Gotta love Jules - she has all the advice she needs from the ALP but is stalling so her spin doctors can come up with some kind of lie or excuse to explain why it's not really yet another lie from her government.

Well she could have raced out and implemented a racist policy to destroy peoples lives while accusing them of intentionally throwing their children overboard and then calling an election in an atmosphere of fear and bigoted ignorance.

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Re: Labor telling lies over latest boat
Reply #100 - Jul 6^th, 2012 at 4:54am

nairbe wrote on Jul 5^th, 2012 at 9:12pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 6:31am:

Prime Minister Julia Gillard yesterday baulked at explaining the discrepancies. "I'll wait until we've got the full advice from relevant authorities," she said.

Gotta love Jules - she has all the advice she needs from the ALP but is stalling so her spin doctors can come up with some kind of lie or excuse to explain why it's not really yet another lie from her government.

Well she could have raced out and implemented a racist policy to destroy peoples lives while accusing them of intentionally throwing their children overboard and then calling an election in an atmosphere of fear and bigoted ignorance.

Well. Yeah. Theres that.

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