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warrigal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2569 australia Gender:	Re: Should Young Children be Checked for Mental Illnes Reply #30 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 10:13am I am pretty happy here your Poll gives a resounding NO answer here
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Re: Should Young Children be Checked for Mental Illnes
Reply #31 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 10:16am

warrigal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

I am pretty happy here your Pole gives a resounding NO answer here

Yeah it does but its just us. A captive audience of ppl in this forum however varied we are in opinion. There should really be some kind of public polls done on this topic before they bring such a thing in but nope.

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Re: Should Young Children be Checked for Mental Illnes
Reply #32 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 10:38am

Just as we have a growing number of kids being tagged as having ADHD, and pumped
full of drugs, simply because they don't want to sit quietly with a book all day, I can see
a HEAP of kids who are simply 'different', those who won't blindly comply, and those who
are simply stubborn or taciturn being labelled and hassled right throughout their childhood
and school years. The potential for stigmatism and bullying would be greatly increased.

I'm very concerned about any child that young being prescribed any form of anti-psychotic drug.

It also has the potential to return and bite them later in life ('Sorry, but you were diagnosed
as being 'anti-authority' when you were three, so you are not eligible for this job' etc).

Sorry, but I'm 100% opposed to this.

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Reply #33 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 11:28am

Kat wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 10:38am:

Just as we have a growing number of kids being tagged as having ADHD, and pumped
full of drugs, simply because they don't want to sit quietly with a book all day, I can see
a HEAP of kids who are simply 'different', those who won't blindly comply, and those who
are simply stubborn or taciturn being labelled and hassled right throughout their childhood
and school years. The potential for stigmatism and bullying would be greatly increased.

I'm very concerned about any child that young being prescribed any form of anti-psychotic drug.

It also has the potential to return and bite them later in life ('Sorry, but you were diagnosed
as being 'anti-authority' when you were three, so you are not eligible for this job' etc).

Sorry, but I'm 100% opposed to this.

I agree with your concern about ADHD etc which is usually misdiagnosed and is nothing more than an over-active imaginative kid. I know I have a grandson whose energy level could power a suburb! But he has no deficits - just a lot of energy. Often the medication is just a substitute for effective parenting. yes, we'd all like quieter and less energetic kids. Its easier. But that's not what parenting is about.

However I still see the potential merits as long as it is about identifying serious mental problems - not just inattention or over-activity.

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Re: Should Young Children be Checked for Mental Illnes
Reply #34 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:08pm

My three year old's too noisy. My three year old's too quiet. They're both mentally ill, nurse! take them to the treatment room.

My three year old cries a lot. Must be depressed, nurse! give him the blue pills.

My three year old laughs a lot. Life's not a joke, nurse! put him in the padded cell.

It could work out for the better, hopefully the generation that follows will have a fear of psychologists.

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Re: Should Young Children be Checked for Mental Illnes
Reply #35 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:17pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 8:51am:

warrigal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

WTH? As young as 3? How the heck can they tell @ that age if a child has a mental illness? That is ridiculous. Hate to be a godwin but hitler did this kind of crap. A lot of our mental health knowledge comes from his experiments.

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Well if a child does
or is effected by Mental illness at this age, The only reason for it is HEALTH and the LIFE style we lead these DAYS. Life of stress, where if we had a more quite life style we wounldn't have stress in our lives.

@ age 3? What stress does a child of 3 have now that they didnt have 50 years ago?

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Growing up with no male role model.

Being a boy in a society where masculine traits are regarded as "mental illness" ie AD(H)D.

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Reply #36 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:23pm

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 8:51am:

warrigal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

WTH? As young as 3? How the heck can they tell @ that age if a child has a mental illness? That is ridiculous. Hate to be a godwin but hitler did this kind of crap. A lot of our mental health knowledge comes from his experiments.

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Well if a child does
or is effected by Mental illness at this age, The only reason for it is HEALTH and the LIFE style we lead these DAYS. Life of stress, where if we had a more quite life style we wounldn't have stress in our lives.

@ age 3? What stress does a child of 3 have now that they didnt have 50 years ago?

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Growing up with no male role model.

Being a boy in a society where masculine traits are regarded as "mental illness" ie AD(H)D.

ADHD is a masculine trait? Why do girls get it too?

50 years ago lots of children had only 1 parent. they just werent legally divorced with a piece of paper.

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Reply #37 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:39pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:23pm:

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 8:51am:

warrigal wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 10^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

WTH? As young as 3? How the heck can they tell @ that age if a child has a mental illness? That is ridiculous. Hate to be a godwin but hitler did this kind of crap. A lot of our mental health knowledge comes from his experiments.

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Well if a child does
or is effected by Mental illness at this age, The only reason for it is HEALTH and the LIFE style we lead these DAYS. Life of stress, where if we had a more quite life style we wounldn't have stress in our lives.

@ age 3? What stress does a child of 3 have now that they didnt have 50 years ago?

SOB

Growing up with no male role model.

Being a boy in a society where masculine traits are regarded as "mental illness" ie AD(H)D.

ADHD is a masculine trait? Why do girls get it too?

50 years ago lots of children had only 1 parent. they just werent legally divorced with a piece of paper.

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It only has been fairly recently that researchers have investigated gender differences among individuals with Attention-deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). Below is a summary of differences typically found between males and females with ADHD.

Prevalence and Behavioral Differences:

ADHD is much more common among males than females. It is estimated that boys are two to three times more likely to have ADHD than girls. They are up to nine times more likely than girls to be referred for evaluation and treatment.

The difference in referral rates between ADHD boys and girls is likely due to ADHD boys having more behavior problems than ADHD girls.

Studies have found that ADHD girls tend to have more internalizing behaviors such as anxiety, social withdrawal, and depression. Most girls diagnosed with ADHD, tend to cluster in the inattentive subtype. Because they are not a behavior problem, their difficulties are often overlooked. Boys diagnosed with ADHD are usually clinic-referred because of oppositional, aggressive, and conduct behaviors. They tend to be very disruptive in the classroom, drawing the attention of their teachers.

http://cpancf.com/articles_files/art_57attached_file.asp

aggression = masculine
aggression = disorder

Therefore:

masculine = disorder.

Or is it just a coincidence?

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50 years ago lots of children had only 1 parent. they just werent legally divorced with a piece of paper.

Maybe so - But today lots and lots have only once parent. You don't think that has repercussions?

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/2f762f95845417aeca25706c00834efa/adf83e7...

ONE-PARENT FAMILIES AS A PROPORTION OF ALL FAMILIES WITH DEPENDANTS(a

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Reply #39 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:46pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:42pm:

then why do girls get it?

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You're trying my patience already with this obstinate idiocy borg.

Girls "get it" at a much lower rate than boys, becasue they have a much lower representation of masculine traits tnat are likly to gte them referred, such as aggression. I didn't say there has never been an aggressive girl, the proportion of agrresive boys is far greater than the rate of aggressive girls.

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Reply #40 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:52pm

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 12:42pm:

then why do girls get it?

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You're trying my patience already with this obstinate idiocy borg.

Girls "get it" at a much lower rate than boys, becasue they have a much lower representation of masculine traits tnat are likly to gte them referred, such as aggression. I didn't say there has never been an aggressive girl, the proportion of agrresive boys is far greater than the rate of aggressive girls.

If it was a masculine trait then the girls wouldn't get it would they?

Awww sorry about the patience perhaps you have a touch of ADHD? Take a pill or better still have some sugar.

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Reply #43 - Jun 11^th, 2012 at 1:22pm

your whole argument is that its "masculine traits" that are being diagnosed as "bad". This is bullsh1t of course. If it were true then why are girls diagnosed with it @ all? you seem to have some problems mate. did you get fooled by a drag queen into thinking "her" child was yours or something?

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