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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #30 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10pm

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Why can't you answer the question?

Is it true he killed 500 in Medina alone?

The Jewish population in the Islamic state was probably around 100,000.

Killing only 500 enemy Jewish warriors who had fought against the Islamic state demonstrates that Jews were treated well as long as they did not fight against the state.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #31 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:20pm

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Why can't you answer the question?

Is it true he killed 500 in Medina alone?

The Jewish population in the Islamic state was probably around 100,000.

Killing only 500 enemy Jewish warriors who had fought against the Islamic state demonstrates that Jews were treated well as long as they did not fight against the state.

SO killing the Moonee Ponds jihadis - Bebrinka and Co - would be OK, Islamically speaking? They are fighting against the state.

Killing every single Muslim who fights against the state in the west is to be killed - as a way of of accommodating Islam, of course.

Everyone, ululate! The scholar has given us all a clear sign!!

(You stupid bloody jihadi idiot)

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #32 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:25pm

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Why can't you answer the question?

Is it true he killed 500 in Medina alone?

The Jewish population in the Islamic state was probably around 100,000.

Killing only 500 enemy Jewish warriors who had fought against the Islamic state demonstrates that Jews were treated well as long as they did not fight against the state.

I was talking about Medina alone. Isn't this the place where Muhammed had a peace treaty that he reneged on, as collective punishment for what was clearly a crime rather than an act of war?

You previously attempted to explain it away by saying the entire tribe was only about 100 people. Now you have done another mental backflip and are instead talking about how many Jews there were. You can't have it both ways Falah.

Is it true or not?

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #33 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:03pm

Soren wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

SO killing the Moonee Ponds jihadis - Bebrinka and Co - would be OK, Islamically speaking? They are fighting against the state.

Killing every single Muslim who fights against the state in the west is to be killed - as a way of of accommodating Islam, of course.

Everyone, ululate! The scholar has given us all a clear sign!!

(You stupid bloody jihadi idiot)

When a confederation of armies invade Australia, and Muslim Australians assist them in that invasion, then you will be able to say you are doing the same.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #34 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:31pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:03pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

SO killing the Moonee Ponds jihadis - Bebrinka and Co - would be OK, Islamically speaking? They are fighting against the state.

Killing every single Muslim who fights against the state in the west is to be killed - as a way of of accommodating Islam, of course.

Everyone, ululate! The scholar has given us all a clear sign!!

(You stupid bloody jihadi idiot)

When a confederation of armies invade Australia, and Muslim Australians assist them in that invasion, then you will be able to say you are doing the same.

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10pm:

Killing only 5000 enemy Muslim warriors who have fought against the Australian state on Australian soil demonstrates that Muslims are treated well as long as they do not fight against the state again.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #35 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:03am

Soren wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:31pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 11:03pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

SO killing the Moonee Ponds jihadis - Bebrinka and Co - would be OK, Islamically speaking? They are fighting against the state.

Killing every single Muslim who fights against the state in the west is to be killed - as a way of of accommodating Islam, of course.

Everyone, ululate! The scholar has given us all a clear sign!!

(You stupid bloody jihadi idiot)

When a confederation of armies invade Australia, and Muslim Australians assist them in that invasion, then you will be able to say you are doing the same.

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10pm:

Killing only 5000 enemy Muslim warriors who have fought against the Australian state on Australian soil demonstrates that Muslims are treated well as long as they do not fight against the state again.

^ What the heck? You Islam-haters are now making up fake posts and attributing them to me. How pathetic can you get?

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: How Islam Saved The Jews Reply #36 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:05am freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:25pm: I was talking about Medina alone. Isn't this the place where Muhammed had a peace treaty that he reneged on, as collective punishment for what was clearly a crime rather than an act of war? It was the Jews that broke peace treaties and attacked the islamic state.
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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #37 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:13am

Soren wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Why can't you answer the question?

Is it true he killed 500 in Medina alone?

The Jewish population in the Islamic state was probably around 100,000.

Killing only 500 enemy Jewish warriors who had fought against the Islamic state demonstrates that Jews were treated well as long as they did not fight against the state.

SO killing the Moonee Ponds jihadis - Bebrinka and Co - would be OK, Islamically speaking? They are fighting against the state.

Can you provide any proof that they were fighting against the state.

Even the judge when sentencing admitted that the group had no actual target.

They were simply discussing religious rulings (of which none of them was qualified to give) on hypothetical situations.

The only evidence in the trial was a schizophrenic liar's testimony. The star witness in the trial spoke to imaginary characters, was a diagnosed schizophrenic, and had been proven in the past to be a liar.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #38 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:30am

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:13am:

Soren wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:10pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

Why can't you answer the question?

Is it true he killed 500 in Medina alone?

The Jewish population in the Islamic state was probably around 100,000.

Killing only 500 enemy Jewish warriors who had fought against the Islamic state demonstrates that Jews were treated well as long as they did not fight against the state.

SO killing the Moonee Ponds jihadis - Bebrinka and Co - would be OK, Islamically speaking? They are fighting against the state.

Can you provide any proof that they were fighting against the state.

They are in jail for fighting the state. Or does Australian law not count?

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Even the judge when sentencing admitted that the group had no actual target.

He admitted, did he?
Even the judge admitted?

Grin

You are an Arab, aren't you??

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They were simply discussing religious rulings (of which none of them was qualified to give) on hypothetical situations.

Well, let that be a lesson you you, bearded jihadi. Simply discussing religious rulings can land you in jail.
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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #39 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:47am

Soren wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:30am:

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:13am:

They were simply discussing religious rulings (of which none of them was qualified to give) on hypothetical situations.

Well, let that be a lesson you you, bearded jihadi. Simply discussing religious rulings can land you in jail.

No. Having an overzealous secret police, and a jury made up of morons can land you in jail.

People like you are stupidly happy to live in a fascist state - until the state destroys itself like Nazi Germany did. Then you will probably try to run off to Argentina trying to avoid your war crimes trial.

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #40 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:59am

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:47am:

Soren wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:30am:

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:13am:

They were simply discussing religious rulings (of which none of them was qualified to give) on hypothetical situations.

Well, let that be a lesson you you, bearded jihadi. Simply discussing religious rulings can land you in jail.

People like you are stupidly happy to live in a fascist state

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Where do you live, bearded jihadi?

(thank god you are Arabs)

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #41 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 9:19am

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:05am:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

I was talking about Medina alone. Isn't this the place where Muhammed had a peace treaty that he reneged on, as collective punishment for what was clearly a crime rather than an act of war?

It was the Jews that broke peace treaties and attacked the islamic state.

By molesting a woman and murdering a man?

Is it true that Muhammed murdered 500 Jewish men in response, and that you tried to pass this off as a merciful act because it averted a war with those 500 men?

Is this what you mean by 'saving' the Jews?

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Re: How Islam Saved The Jews
Reply #42 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 10:40am

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 9:19am:

By molesting a woman and murdering a man?

Is it true that Muhammed murdered 500 Jewish men in response, and that you tried to pass this off as a merciful act because it averted a war with those 500 men?

Is this what you mean by 'saving' the Jews?

You probably need to specify which event you're speaking about freediver, because it doesn't sound like you really understand what you're talking about. You seem to be mixing up all sorts of events.

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Reply #44 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:53pm

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Is it true that Muhammed killed 500 Jews in Medina alone? Was there more than one massacre of Jews in this town? You would think they would run out pretty quickly at that rate.

I don't think he killed any Jews.

A tribe of Jews were found guilty of treason (with their own representative, Sa'd Bin Mu'adh as judge) though and executed, after they assisted an invading confederacy of Jewish & Pagan Arab armies to invade Madinah.

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Were these Jews 'saved'?

If it's the ones above, no, they were treasonous criminals, who were found guilty by a court of law and were sentenced accordingly. Why would they be saved?

Your question is the most illogical bunch of nonsense I've ever come across. Nowhere did anyone state Muslims preserved the life of every single Jew ever to come across their path. Of course criminals were executed under Islamic law, be they Jews, Zoroastrians, Muslims or Buddhists.

Honestly fd discussing with you is quite tiresome, I feel like I am amusing a toddler.

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