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Re: A good day for Queenslanders
Reply #15 - May 29th, 2012 at 10:52am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 10:47am:
The Can Do administration is looking more and more like a rerun of Yes Minister. First the pot plants, then tea and coffee, then sandwiches, now people.

Will the tea ladies be next?

Got a link to that. Any substance at all or is it that this new government is getting rid of the yes minister parties waste.
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Reply #16 - May 29th, 2012 at 11:44am
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 10:38am:
Incomptinence wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 10:29am:
Private sector funded offices for pollies?

Sounds fishy.

How so. They will lease just like any other business does.


Great now our pollies are paying astronomical rent with taxpayer funding! 

FOREVER!
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Reply #17 - May 29th, 2012 at 11:55am
 
Leasing is fine, for a business without the capital to buy, and which can claim the lease payments as a full write off against tax, but for a government to sell it's buildings, then lease back space, is insanely bad economic sense.
My brothers law firm had been leasing offices in the cbd of melbourne and sydney for many, many decades, and when he became senior partner he looked at the figures, and bought a few floors in new buildings around the corner from the courts.
It has saved the company millions, and they have to pay taxes so I just do not see how they can justify this sort of short term thinking.
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Reply #18 - May 29th, 2012 at 11:56am
 
mozzaok wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 11:55am:
Leasing is fine, for a business without the capital to buy, and which can claim the lease payments as a full write off against tax, but for a government to sell it's buildings, then lease back space, is insanely bad economic sense.
My brothers law firm had been leasing offices in the cbd of melbourne and sydney for many, many decades, and when he became senior partner he looked at the figures, and bought a few floors in new buildings around the corner from the courts.
It has saved the company millions, and they have to pay taxes so I just do not see how they(a government body) can justify this sort of short term thinking.

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Reply #19 - May 29th, 2012 at 12:26pm
 
Incomptinence wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 11:44am:
Great now our pollies are paying astronomical rent with taxpayer funding! 

FOREVER!


As opposed to the 'free' building they would just acquire out of thin air.

It is normal practice for business and governments to rent office space from Op Ex instead of buying buildings out of Cap Ex.

No massive expenditure (taxpayer funds) up front, allowing funds to be better utilised elsewhere.

No maintenance costs




Remember every day we don't have the bligh labor government in power is a beautiful day for all Queenslanders


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Reply #20 - May 29th, 2012 at 12:34pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
Incomptinence wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 11:44am:
Great now our pollies are paying astronomical rent with taxpayer funding! 

FOREVER!


As opposed to the 'free' building they would just acquire out of thin air.

It is normal practice for business and governments to rent office space from Op Ex instead of buying buildings out of Cap Ex.

No massive expenditure (taxpayer funds) up front, allowing funds to be better utilised elsewhere.

No maintenance costs




Remember every day we don't have the bligh labor government in power is a beautiful day for all Queenslanders




But to commission a private company to build and pay for building a privately owned building (2bil) just so the govt can lease it @ some phenomenal rate? Comon theres a scam in there somewhere. Why the heck would the private company do that anyway?

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Reply #21 - May 29th, 2012 at 12:54pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 12:34pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
Incomptinence wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 11:44am:
Great now our pollies are paying astronomical rent with taxpayer funding! 

FOREVER!


As opposed to the 'free' building they would just acquire out of thin air.

It is normal practice for business and governments to rent office space from Op Ex instead of buying buildings out of Cap Ex.

No massive expenditure (taxpayer funds) up front, allowing funds to be better utilised elsewhere.

No maintenance costs




Remember every day we don't have the bligh labor government in power is a beautiful day for all Queenslanders




But to commission a private company to build and pay for building a privately owned building (2bil) just so the govt can lease it @ some phenomenal rate? Comon theres a scam in there somewhere. Why the heck would the private company do that anyway?

SOB



The scam is that Queenslanders don't have to fork out $2 bil for a building that the government can just rent once it is finished.

It seems dastardly to some people but it is pretty standard these days.

Many governments rent office space from private companies, I don't really understand the conspiracy theory here.


BTW you people seem to like to use highly emotive words like astronomical and phenomenal, do you know what rent they will be paying in comparison to the normal rents paid for office space in brisbane?

Try and keep the hysterical language to a minimum if we could.

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Reply #22 - May 29th, 2012 at 3:58pm
 
Way to not get it.

IF you were an 80 year old, and thought, blow it, I am not gonna live forever, I will sell my home, and spend the proceeds, renting some beautiful new apartment, and live like a king til I die, I would say, good move.
If you were 22, just married, and having your first kid, and had inherited a house, and said the same, I would say you are a freakin nice person, because the money will run out in ten years, and you will be far worse off, and with NO assets.
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Reply #23 - May 29th, 2012 at 4:20pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 12:54pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 12:34pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
Incomptinence wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 11:44am:
Great now our pollies are paying astronomical rent with taxpayer funding! 

FOREVER!


As opposed to the 'free' building they would just acquire out of thin air.

It is normal practice for business and governments to rent office space from Op Ex instead of buying buildings out of Cap Ex.

No massive expenditure (taxpayer funds) up front, allowing funds to be better utilised elsewhere.

No maintenance costs




Remember every day we don't have the bligh labor government in power is a beautiful day for all Queenslanders




But to commission a private company to build and pay for building a privately owned building (2bil) just so the govt can lease it @ some phenomenal rate? Comon theres a scam in there somewhere. Why the heck would the private company do that anyway?

SOB



The scam is that Queenslanders don't have to fork out $2 bil for a building that the government can just rent once it is finished.

It seems dastardly to some people but it is pretty standard these days.

Many governments rent office space from private companies, I don't really understand the conspiracy theory here.


BTW you people seem to like to use highly emotive words like astronomical and phenomenal, do you know what rent they will be paying in comparison to the normal rents paid for office space in brisbane?

Try and keep the hysterical language to a minimum if we could.



Oh you mean like "you people" and "conspiracy" and "hysterical ?

Idiot.

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Re: A good day for Queenslanders
Reply #24 - May 29th, 2012 at 5:13pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 10:52am:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 10:47am:
The Can Do administration is looking more and more like a rerun of Yes Minister. First the pot plants, then tea and coffee, then sandwiches, now people.

Will the tea ladies be next?

Got a link to that. Any substance at all or is it that this new government is getting rid of the yes minister parties waste.


Of course I have a link. It's called a brain. You should try it sometime.
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Reply #25 - May 29th, 2012 at 5:19pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 4:20pm:
Oh you mean like "you people" and "conspiracy" and "hysterical ?

Idiot.

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Actually that is nothing like what I meant.


Read it all again or get a child to read it for you, it isn't that difficult to follow.


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Reply #26 - May 29th, 2012 at 5:27pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 5:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 29th, 2012 at 4:20pm:
Oh you mean like "you people" and "conspiracy" and "hysterical ?

Idiot.

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Actually that is nothing like what I meant.


Read it all again or get a child to read it for you, it isn't that difficult to follow.




Yes it is. You said highly emotive words. Meaning meant to get a reaction. Like you did.

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