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Re: Dog Whistle Journalism
Reply #45 - May 16th, 2012 at 9:33pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:37pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:33pm:
Every political party tries to "frame the debate." Every party uses catch-phrases, attempts to influence thinking, demonizes opponents, in fact, they will try and use every trick in the book to gain followers.

It's the same process as marketing.

It's intellectually dishonest to think one political group exists outside this paradigm.





While that is true - one political group does have the resources of the media behind them. The media are very good @ advertising (duh). The marketing is done for them (the libs in this country) by the media and the advertising is easy with those dog whistle words. Its all set up.

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It isn't true that it's completely bias toward the Liberals. I remember back in the 1990s when the Liberals were in opposition and the media gave them a hell of a time. Also, who can forget Phillip Adams in The Australian launching tirade after tirade on Howard. Don't get me started on the ABC.

Regardless of all that. People choose to buy newspapers, choose to watch tv, and choose to surf the internet. There's no gun to their heads.

People currently dislike Labor because they've stuffed up too many times. Personally, I will never vote Labor because my views are at complete odds with the left-wing of that party. I don't need some journalist to tell me about that.





That's NOT dog whistling.



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Reply #46 - May 16th, 2012 at 10:00pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:51pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:06am:
Swagman wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:10pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:34pm:
Can you give me an example of where any other party has used this technique?


"Greedy, rich, xenophobic, racist, dog whistle, deniers, sceptics, uncompassionate",.......etc etc....all inflammatory political dialogue used by leftist journo wankers and politicians for the same schitt.... Sad








Thanks for doing me the honours. I'd also add to that list progressive, tolerance, equality, diversity, and multiculturalism.


Really? They look like normal words. What words would you use instead then? And who are the "leftist" journos I wouldl like to read some of them.

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/?WT.svl=news

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Reply #47 - May 16th, 2012 at 11:29pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:13am:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 8:35pm:
I have even been called Nazi for defending my country.


I have been called "antisemite" for asking questions about israel.

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Your questions that I have seen are criticism and not questions.
Critical to Israel but not to the terrorists. This is because Israel is a Jewish states and yes it is anti Semitic to do this.

You were called correct.
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Reply #48 - May 17th, 2012 at 8:43am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:37pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:33pm:
Every political party tries to "frame the debate." Every party uses catch-phrases, attempts to influence thinking, demonizes opponents, in fact, they will try and use every trick in the book to gain followers.

It's the same process as marketing.

It's intellectually dishonest to think one political group exists outside this paradigm.





While that is true - one political group does have the resources of the media behind them. The media are very good @ advertising (duh). The marketing is done for them (the libs in this country) by the media and the advertising is easy with those dog whistle words. Its all set up.

SOB


It isn't true that it's completely bias toward the Liberals. I remember back in the 1990s when the Liberals were in opposition and the media gave them a hell of a time. Also, who can forget Phillip Adams in The Australian launching tirade after tirade on Howard. Don't get me started on the ABC.

Regardless of all that. People choose to buy newspapers, choose to watch tv, and choose to surf the internet. There's no gun to their heads.

People currently dislike Labor because they've stuffed up too many times. Personally, I will never vote Labor because my views are at complete odds with the left-wing of that party. I don't need some journalist to tell me about that.



Yes. It is biased towards the liberals. For some reason the media needs to pick a side. Silly I know but they do. Rebekkah Brooks said that in the uk they were backing labour until they did something they disagreed with and the switched to liberal. Its same here they switched to liberal long ago during howard era.

Hahahaha @ "choose to buy newspapers". Yes they do. Is that something to do with it?

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Re: Dog Whistle Journalism
Reply #49 - May 17th, 2012 at 8:46am
 
Swagman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:00pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:51pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:06am:
Swagman wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:10pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:34pm:
Can you give me an example of where any other party has used this technique?


"Greedy, rich, xenophobic, racist, dog whistle, deniers, sceptics, uncompassionate",.......etc etc....all inflammatory political dialogue used by leftist journo wankers and politicians for the same schitt.... Sad








Thanks for doing me the honours. I'd also add to that list progressive, tolerance, equality, diversity, and multiculturalism.


Really? They look like normal words. What words would you use instead then? And who are the "leftist" journos I wouldl like to read some of them.

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/?WT.svl=news

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I dont see them using dog whistles? Well not the non-existant ones in the example anyway. They use the right wing ones sometimes.

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Reply #50 - May 17th, 2012 at 8:47am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:29pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:13am:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 8:35pm:
I have even been called Nazi for defending my country.


I have been called "antisemite" for asking questions about israel.

SOB


Your questions that I have seen are criticism and not questions.
Critical to Israel but not to the terrorists. This is because Israel is a Jewish states and yes it is anti Semitic to do this.

You were called correct.


Hahahahahahhahaha

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Reply #51 - May 17th, 2012 at 9:51am
 
"the left" is not an interchangeable term for labor
"the right" is not an inetrchangeable term for liberal

All are held to the narrative set by the cultural elite who are unreservedly and unashamedly leftwing.
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Reply #52 - May 17th, 2012 at 10:10am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:43am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:37pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:33pm:
Every political party tries to "frame the debate." Every party uses catch-phrases, attempts to influence thinking, demonizes opponents, in fact, they will try and use every trick in the book to gain followers.

It's the same process as marketing.

It's intellectually dishonest to think one political group exists outside this paradigm.





While that is true - one political group does have the resources of the media behind them. The media are very good @ advertising (duh). The marketing is done for them (the libs in this country) by the media and the advertising is easy with those dog whistle words. Its all set up.

SOB


It isn't true that it's completely bias toward the Liberals. I remember back in the 1990s when the Liberals were in opposition and the media gave them a hell of a time. Also, who can forget Phillip Adams in The Australian launching tirade after tirade on Howard. Don't get me started on the ABC.

Regardless of all that. People choose to buy newspapers, choose to watch tv, and choose to surf the internet. There's no gun to their heads.

People currently dislike Labor because they've stuffed up too many times. Personally, I will never vote Labor because my views are at complete odds with the left-wing of that party. I don't need some journalist to tell me about that.



Yes. It is biased towards the liberals. For some reason the media needs to pick a side. Silly I know but they do. Rebekkah Brooks said that in the uk they were backing labour until they did something they disagreed with and the switched to liberal. Its same here they switched to liberal long ago during howard era.
SOB


If you want trendy lefty stuff then read Fairfax, ABC, and Crikey.

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Hahahaha @ "choose to buy newspapers". Yes they do. Is that something to do with it?


Concentrate.
People buy newspaper of their own volition. There's no grand conspiracy forcing people to buy them and absorb the information therein. The Murdoch press is a private industry and survives because people are willing to buy its products. It's telling that the ABC needs millions of taxpayers dollars to sprout its lefty views; because there's no market for them. It needs to be artificially propped up because it can't survive in the marketplace.
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Reply #53 - May 17th, 2012 at 10:17am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:10am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:43am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:37pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:33pm:
Every political party tries to "frame the debate." Every party uses catch-phrases, attempts to influence thinking, demonizes opponents, in fact, they will try and use every trick in the book to gain followers.

It's the same process as marketing.

It's intellectually dishonest to think one political group exists outside this paradigm.





While that is true - one political group does have the resources of the media behind them. The media are very good @ advertising (duh). The marketing is done for them (the libs in this country) by the media and the advertising is easy with those dog whistle words. Its all set up.

SOB


It isn't true that it's completely bias toward the Liberals. I remember back in the 1990s when the Liberals were in opposition and the media gave them a hell of a time. Also, who can forget Phillip Adams in The Australian launching tirade after tirade on Howard. Don't get me started on the ABC.

Regardless of all that. People choose to buy newspapers, choose to watch tv, and choose to surf the internet. There's no gun to their heads.

People currently dislike Labor because they've stuffed up too many times. Personally, I will never vote Labor because my views are at complete odds with the left-wing of that party. I don't need some journalist to tell me about that.



Yes. It is biased towards the liberals. For some reason the media needs to pick a side. Silly I know but they do. Rebekkah Brooks said that in the uk they were backing labour until they did something they disagreed with and the switched to liberal. Its same here they switched to liberal long ago during howard era.
SOB


If you want trendy lefty stuff then read Fairfax, ABC, and Crikey.

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Hahahaha @ "choose to buy newspapers". Yes they do. Is that something to do with it?


Concentrate.
People buy newspaper of their own volition. There's no grand conspiracy forcing people to buy them and absorb the information therein. The Murdoch press is a private industry and survives because people are willing to buy its products. It's telling that the ABC needs millions of taxpayers dollars to sprout its lefty views; because there's no market for them. It needs to be artificially propped up because it can't survive in the marketplace.


So thats your excuse for them using dog whistles?

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Reply #54 - May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am
 


Most times the dogs arent aware of what has set them off.
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Reply #55 - May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am
 
... wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:51am:
"the left" is not an interchangeable term for labor
"the right" is not an inetrchangeable term for liberal

All are held to the narrative set by the cultural elite who are unreservedly and unashamedly leftwing.


Who said it was? They are both the same. However the liberals have the media on thier "side".

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Reply #56 - May 17th, 2012 at 10:21am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:17am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:10am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:43am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:37pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:33pm:
Every political party tries to "frame the debate." Every party uses catch-phrases, attempts to influence thinking, demonizes opponents, in fact, they will try and use every trick in the book to gain followers.

It's the same process as marketing.

It's intellectually dishonest to think one political group exists outside this paradigm.





While that is true - one political group does have the resources of the media behind them. The media are very good @ advertising (duh). The marketing is done for them (the libs in this country) by the media and the advertising is easy with those dog whistle words. Its all set up.

SOB


It isn't true that it's completely bias toward the Liberals. I remember back in the 1990s when the Liberals were in opposition and the media gave them a hell of a time. Also, who can forget Phillip Adams in The Australian launching tirade after tirade on Howard. Don't get me started on the ABC.

Regardless of all that. People choose to buy newspapers, choose to watch tv, and choose to surf the internet. There's no gun to their heads.

People currently dislike Labor because they've stuffed up too many times. Personally, I will never vote Labor because my views are at complete odds with the left-wing of that party. I don't need some journalist to tell me about that.



Yes. It is biased towards the liberals. For some reason the media needs to pick a side. Silly I know but they do. Rebekkah Brooks said that in the uk they were backing labour until they did something they disagreed with and the switched to liberal. Its same here they switched to liberal long ago during howard era.
SOB


If you want trendy lefty stuff then read Fairfax, ABC, and Crikey.

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Hahahaha @ "choose to buy newspapers". Yes they do. Is that something to do with it?


Concentrate.
People buy newspaper of their own volition. There's no grand conspiracy forcing people to buy them and absorb the information therein. The Murdoch press is a private industry and survives because people are willing to buy its products. It's telling that the ABC needs millions of taxpayers dollars to sprout its lefty views; because there's no market for them. It needs to be artificially propped up because it can't survive in the marketplace.


So thats your excuse for them using dog whistles?

SOB



It's already been explained that 'dog whistles' are part of politics regardless of the affiliation.

Like most people who debate on raw emotion, you seem to think that your party affiliation stands outside this paradigm.
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Reply #57 - May 17th, 2012 at 10:22am
 
darkhall67 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am:
Most times the dogs arent aware of what has set them off.



Don't be a hypocrite. Whenever someone has a genuine concern over a racial or gender issue you clowns are there to scream "racist" and "sexist."

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Reply #58 - May 17th, 2012 at 10:52am
 
darkhall67 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am:
Most times the dogs arent aware of what has set them off.


Exactly

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Reply #59 - May 17th, 2012 at 10:54am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:17am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:10am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:43am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:37pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 7:33pm:
Every political party tries to "frame the debate." Every party uses catch-phrases, attempts to influence thinking, demonizes opponents, in fact, they will try and use every trick in the book to gain followers.

It's the same process as marketing.

It's intellectually dishonest to think one political group exists outside this paradigm.





While that is true - one political group does have the resources of the media behind them. The media are very good @ advertising (duh). The marketing is done for them (the libs in this country) by the media and the advertising is easy with those dog whistle words. Its all set up.

SOB


It isn't true that it's completely bias toward the Liberals. I remember back in the 1990s when the Liberals were in opposition and the media gave them a hell of a time. Also, who can forget Phillip Adams in The Australian launching tirade after tirade on Howard. Don't get me started on the ABC.

Regardless of all that. People choose to buy newspapers, choose to watch tv, and choose to surf the internet. There's no gun to their heads.

People currently dislike Labor because they've stuffed up too many times. Personally, I will never vote Labor because my views are at complete odds with the left-wing of that party. I don't need some journalist to tell me about that.



Yes. It is biased towards the liberals. For some reason the media needs to pick a side. Silly I know but they do. Rebekkah Brooks said that in the uk they were backing labour until they did something they disagreed with and the switched to liberal. Its same here they switched to liberal long ago during howard era.
SOB


If you want trendy lefty stuff then read Fairfax, ABC, and Crikey.

Quote:
Hahahaha @ "choose to buy newspapers". Yes they do. Is that something to do with it?


Concentrate.
People buy newspaper of their own volition. There's no grand conspiracy forcing people to buy them and absorb the information therein. The Murdoch press is a private industry and survives because people are willing to buy its products. It's telling that the ABC needs millions of taxpayers dollars to sprout its lefty views; because there's no market for them. It needs to be artificially propped up because it can't survive in the marketplace.


So thats your excuse for them using dog whistles?

SOB



It's already been explained that 'dog whistles' are part of politics regardless of the affiliation.

Like most people who debate on raw emotion, you seem to think that your party affiliation stands outside this paradigm. 


No. I am "debating" on the OP post. He gave the definition of dog whistling and what you are saying is the "left" doing it doesnt fit the description. I have no party affiliation. What party are you accusing me of affiliating with?

It may have been "explained" but it wasnt right. The media is doing it on behalf of the liberal party.

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