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Reply #15 - May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am
 
darkhall67 wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Looks like some people dont understand the concept of "dog whistle".


Quite clearly they don't understand it. Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.

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Reply #16 - May 16th, 2012 at 11:49am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
darkhall67 wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Looks like some people dont understand the concept of "dog whistle".


Quite clearly they don't understand it. Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.




I understand it perfectly thank you very much.
The terms used by non-Liberals works in the exact same manner.
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Reply #17 - May 16th, 2012 at 12:36pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
darkhall67 wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Looks like some people dont understand the concept of "dog whistle".


Quite clearly they don't understand it. Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.




I understand it perfectly thank you very much.
The terms used by non-Liberals works in the exact same manner.




And yet you are unable to provide examples.

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Reply #18 - May 16th, 2012 at 12:40pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:36pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
darkhall67 wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Looks like some people dont understand the concept of "dog whistle".


Quite clearly they don't understand it. Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.




I understand it perfectly thank you very much.
The terms used by non-Liberals works in the exact same manner.




And yet you are unable to provide examples.




And yet, there are a dozen or so examples contained within post 12.
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Reply #19 - May 16th, 2012 at 12:51pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:06am:
Swagman wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:10pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:34pm:
Can you give me an example of where any other party has used this technique?


"Greedy, rich, xenophobic, racist, dog whistle, deniers, sceptics, uncompassionate",.......etc etc....all inflammatory political dialogue used by leftist journo wankers and politicians for the same schitt.... Sad








Thanks for doing me the honours. I'd also add to that list progressive, tolerance, equality, diversity, and multiculturalism.


Really? They look like normal words. What words would you use instead then? And who are the "leftist" journos I wouldl like to read some of them.

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Reply #20 - May 16th, 2012 at 2:01pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.



Did you get a job or are you still unemployed?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice


Is that dog whistling or stating a fact?

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Reply #21 - May 16th, 2012 at 2:19pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 2:01pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.



Did you get a job or are you still unemployed?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice


Is that dog whistling or stating a fact?



It is neither. Instead of attempting to construct an argument you resort, as usual, to personal abuse. Some things, and people, never change.
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Reply #22 - May 16th, 2012 at 2:36pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 2:19pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 2:01pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.



Did you get a job or are you still unemployed?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice


Is that dog whistling or stating a fact?



It is neither. Instead of attempting to construct an argument you resort, as usual, to personal abuse. Some things, and people, never change.


you are a hypocrite
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Reply #23 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:09pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 2:36pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 2:19pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 2:01pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.



Did you get a job or are you still unemployed?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice


Is that dog whistling or stating a fact?



It is neither. Instead of attempting to construct an argument you resort, as usual, to personal abuse. Some things, and people, never change.


you are a hypocrite



Why thank you. You have proved my point.   Wink
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Reply #24 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:28pm
 
Paul Murray's blatherings about the "entitlement society" are bizarre.

The welfare system is enshrined in law, if you meet the criteria then you have a legal entitlement, because the law says so.

What would Murray prefer?

In the Depression of the 1930s, any worker in NZ could apply for a niggardly dole payment, but only if he was considered to be "of good character". This decision was made by some worthy establishment figure such as a magistrate or JP and there was no right of appeal.

So socialists, unionists and political agitators need not apply. And if you were known to have a drink occasionally you had no show.

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Reply #25 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:38pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:28pm:
Paul Murray's blatherings about the "entitlement society" are bizarre.

The welfare system is enshrined in law, if you meet the criteria then you have a legal entitlement, because the law says so.

What would Murray prefer?

In the Depression of the 1930s, any worker in NZ could apply for a niggardly dole payment, but only if he was considered to be "of good character". This decision was made by some worthy establishment figure such as a magistrate or JP and there was no right of appeal.

So socialists, unionists and political agitators need not apply. And if you were known to have a drink occasionally you had no show.




He was quite clear in his meaning - money for doing nothing is stupid.  It breeds a blase attitude towards self-reliance, in favour of a hapless dependency on the government.  I'd rather people be responsible for their own lives, rather than throw up their hands and cry "oh why won't the government bail me out of the mess I've made of my life".
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Reply #26 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:41pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
darkhall67 wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Looks like some people dont understand the concept of "dog whistle".


Quite clearly they don't understand it. Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.



Yeah pretty obvious they dont get it. Good thing they arent in charge of anything important.

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Reply #27 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:51pm
 
... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:40pm:
darkhall67 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:36pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
darkhall67 wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Looks like some people dont understand the concept of "dog whistle".


Quite clearly they don't understand it. Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.




I understand it perfectly thank you very much.
The terms used by non-Liberals works in the exact same manner.




And yet you are unable to provide examples.




And yet, there are a dozen or so examples contained within post 12.




None of which are examples of "dog whistling".
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Reply #28 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:56pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:51pm:
... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:40pm:
darkhall67 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:36pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
darkhall67 wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Looks like some people dont understand the concept of "dog whistle".


Quite clearly they don't understand it. Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.




I understand it perfectly thank you very much.
The terms used by non-Liberals works in the exact same manner.




And yet you are unable to provide examples.




And yet, there are a dozen or so examples contained within post 12.




None of which are examples of "dog whistling".



Some are, but no, not all.

How often do you see a headline or artciel "such and such in racist outrage" The comment that leads to this "racist outrage" is usually something completely innocuous, but as soon as that racist "dog whistle" has been seen/heard, it turns the lachrimists sensitivity meter up to 11. 

left-leaners also invariably frame their story in terms of "equality, progress" and by extension anyone deviating even slightly from the script is immediately associated with the opposite - inequality and regression.  Any article on homosexual unions is a prime example of this.
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Reply #29 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:58pm
 
... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:56pm:
darkhall67 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:51pm:
... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:40pm:
darkhall67 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 12:36pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:49am:
Peter Freedman wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:31am:
darkhall67 wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:19pm:
Looks like some people dont understand the concept of "dog whistle".


Quite clearly they don't understand it. Dog whistle is NOT name calling. It is a subtle technique for sending messages to certain elements of the electorate using phrases which seem innocent enough but press the anger buttons of some people.

Like the use of the term "hand outs" for example. This sets off those who believe the poor are lazy, idle bludgers who always have their hands out for support from hardworking, industrious taxpayers. It is a subliminal message which is heard only by some voters, just as dogs hear a dog whistle that other animals cannot discern.




I understand it perfectly thank you very much.
The terms used by non-Liberals works in the exact same manner.




And yet you are unable to provide examples.




And yet, there are a dozen or so examples contained within post 12.




None of which are examples of "dog whistling".



Some are, but no, not all.

How often do you see a headline or artciel "such and such in racist outrage" The comment that leads to this "racist outrage" is usually something completely innocuous, but as soon as that racist "dog whistle" has been seen/heard, it turns the lachrimists sensitivity meter up to 11. 

left-leaners also invariably frame their story in terms of "equality, progress" and by extension anyone deviating even slightly from the script is immediately associated with the opposite - inequality and regression.  Any article on homosexual unions is a prime example of this.




Come on

The right are the champions of framing debates.

The left doesnt even come close to their skills in that area.

Unfortunately.




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