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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Why Should we? Reply #150 - May 17^th, 2012 at 5:47pm I just lay the blame where it belongs - the Western Government, the Corpiotate Maggot and the Australian aristocracy who trade in and live off the proceeds Vice and filth that they peddle in working class suburbs.
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Reply #151 - May 17^th, 2012 at 6:33pm

Matty, we know that these dole bludgers are vile types who live off our valuable tax dollars.

What should we do, however, with the political student crowd who attend university, get Austudy, and spend all their time trying to overthrow the government that pay for their keep?

Many of them think they're better than us even though we pay for their fees, textbooks, takeaway and internet. Personally, I think Mr Abbott should step in and do something when he becomes PM.

Thoughts?

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Why Should we? Reply #152 - May 17^th, 2012 at 6:59pm Tony won't put up with people getting educated. There will be no mucking around at uni when Tony gets in, everyone down the mines, there's work to be done.
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Reply #153 - May 17^th, 2012 at 7:02pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:59pm:

Tony won't put up with people getting educated. There will be no mucking around at uni when Tony gets in, everyone down the mines, there's work to be done.

Victorian England is Tony Abbotts great inspiration..kids down mines, the disabled in workhouses, rich people using the poor as unpaid servants...it will be so grand

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Reply #154 - May 17^th, 2012 at 9:17pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:59pm:

Tony won't put up with people getting educated. There will be no mucking around at uni when Tony gets in, everyone down the mines, there's work to be done.

I don't think people who intent to become specialists should be included here, Pansi.

After all, they will be making at least $180,000 per annum when they complete their studies. They should be subsidized accordingly.

I think we should protect people who, one day, will earn big incomes and employ cleaners, gardeners, lawn mowers, leaf rakers, etc, and maybe bring a little wife in from overseas as well.

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Reply #155 - May 18^th, 2012 at 10:13am

Big Donger wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Matty, we know that these dole bludgers are vile types who live off our valuable tax dollars.

What should we do, however, with the political student crowd who attend university, get Austudy, and spend all their time trying to overthrow the government that pay for their keep?

Many of them think they're better than us even though we pay for their fees, textbooks, takeaway and internet. Personally, I think Mr Abbott should step in and do something when he becomes PM.

Thoughts?

Firstly and honestly.. what is matty? lol. I'm new on here and i have absolutely no idea what anyone is talking about lol
But I absolutely agree with you. There should be a limited time that hard working people pay for the schooling of others or for dole bludgers. For example, give the dole bludgers 3 months to find a job if they don't then bad luck they get $0... Obviously when it comes to schooling it's a grey area but I think it depends on the course, if they are doing a teaching degree (generally 4 years full time) they get assisted for 4 years from the start date. If they choose to do it "part-time" and it takes 5 years for example then they pay for that extra year out of their own money. I bet they'll get it done within 4 if you were to enforce that rule. People expanding there qualifications eg Maters etc... Pay for that themselves too.

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Reply #156 - May 18^th, 2012 at 10:22am

CommonSense wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

Obviously when it comes to schooling it's a grey area but I think it depends on the course, if they are doing a teaching degree (generally 4 years full time) they get assisted for 4 years from the start date. If they choose to do it "part-time" and it takes 5 years for example then they pay for that extra year out of their own money. I bet they'll get it done within 4 if you were to enforce that rule. People expanding there qualifications eg Maters etc... Pay for that themselves too.

That's what happens now, CommonSense. Do you go to uni?

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Reply #157 - May 18^th, 2012 at 3:02pm

Hi Common Sense and thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately you come across as a pretty bitter, resentful extreme rightwing individual.

You write in sweeping generalisations. Everyone on the dole is a "bludger"? Do these words always fit together in your mind? That's sad.

Who are the "illegal immigrants" you talk about?

How about enjoying your life without being constantly resentful of others?

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warrigal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2569 australia Gender:	Re: Why Should we? Reply #158 - May 20^th, 2012 at 8:59am so now we dole bludger bash university students getting a education.
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Reply #159 - May 20^th, 2012 at 9:06am

as quoted

But I absolutely agree with you. There should be a limited time that hard working people pay for the schooling of others or for dole bludgers. For example, give the dole bludgers 3 months to find a job if they don't then bad luck they get $0... [/quote]

So in your oppinion its alright for Trained and Qualified person just to be kept unemployed.

I am being told too just take a Disability support pension now. why should I have to do that.

There are JOBS out There, there are Employers screaming for workers. why then is it so hard to put people into Jobs /Employment.

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If you can create a big enough lie about someone IGNORANT people will bellieve it.

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Reply #160 - May 20^th, 2012 at 9:03pm

warrigal wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

as quoted

But I absolutely agree with you. There should be a limited time that hard working people pay for the schooling of others or for dole bludgers. For example, give the dole bludgers 3 months to find a job if they don't then bad luck they get $0...

So in your oppinion its alright for Trained and Qualified person just to be kept unemployed.

I am being told too just take a Disability support pension now. why should I have to do that.

There are JOBS out There, there are Employers screaming for workers. why then is it so hard to put people into Jobs /Employment.

Matty is currently studying a degree in medical sciences: 3 years.

He then wants to study medicine: 6 years.

After that, he wants to study to become a specialist: at least 2 more years, depending. Most are longer.

11 years of full-time study (not including on-the-job training in multi-million dollar university hospitals if he passes his exams).

Matty is becoming a specialist to earn $180,000 per annum.

But what happens if Matty doesn't like being a specialist? What happens if he faints at the sight of blood?

Medical training doesn't come cheap. Matty's entire specialist training would cost more than one person being on Newstart for their entire life.

Still, Matty isn't doing it for the prestige, he's in it for the money. Hopefully he'll earn the big bucks and pay it off in HECS.

If he has a nervous breakdown, he won't be paying anything off. We'll be paying him.

I.e, people working in bum jobs for chump change are paying their taxes so that Matty can earn the big bucks - IF he passes his exams and doesn't faint when he sees his first cadaver.

Still, we need specialists.

Let's all hope that in ten year's time we'll be celebrating Matty's graduation.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Why Should we? Reply #161 - May 21^st, 2012 at 6:37am That makes sense. First he goes into politics to break people, now he goes into medicine to fix them.
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Reply #162 - May 21^st, 2012 at 6:48am

Big Donger wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 9:03pm:

warrigal wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

as quoted

But I absolutely agree with you. There should be a limited time that hard working people pay for the schooling of others or for dole bludgers. For example, give the dole bludgers 3 months to find a job if they don't then bad luck they get $0...

So in your oppinion its alright for Trained and Qualified person just to be kept unemployed.

I am being told too just take a Disability support pension now. why should I have to do that.

There are JOBS out There, there are Employers screaming for workers. why then is it so hard to put people into Jobs /Employment.

Matty is currently studying a degree in medical sciences: 3 years.

He then wants to study medicine: 6 years.

After that, he wants to study to become a specialist: at least 2 more years, depending. Most are longer.

11 years of full-time study (not including on-the-job training in multi-million dollar university hospitals if he passes his exams).

Matty is becoming a specialist to earn $180,000 per annum.

But what happens if Matty doesn't like being a specialist? What happens if he faints at the sight of blood?

Medical training doesn't come cheap. Matty's entire specialist training would cost more than one person being on Newstart for their entire life.

Still, Matty isn't doing it for the prestige, he's in it for the money. Hopefully he'll earn the big bucks and pay it off in HECS.

If he has a nervous breakdown, he won't be paying anything off. We'll be paying him.

I.e, people working in bum jobs for chump change are paying their taxes so that Matty can earn the big bucks - IF he passes his exams and doesn't faint when he sees his first cadaver.

Still, we need specialists.

Let's all hope that in ten year's time we'll be celebrating Matty's graduation.

sounds like you have a personal dislike to this person matty

What is the difference, if matty a new medical student does all these courses, to be a medical practicioner (A DOCTOR), then other courses to become a Specalist.

Too a already established doctor (medical practisioner) then doing all these course to be come a specialist.

nothing changes their, government, the people still pay for this

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Reply #163 - May 21^st, 2012 at 9:56am

warrigal wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 6:48am:

Big Donger wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 9:03pm:

warrigal wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 9:06am:

as quoted

But I absolutely agree with you. There should be a limited time that hard working people pay for the schooling of others or for dole bludgers. For example, give the dole bludgers 3 months to find a job if they don't then bad luck they get $0...

So in your oppinion its alright for Trained and Qualified person just to be kept unemployed.

I am being told too just take a Disability support pension now. why should I have to do that.

There are JOBS out There, there are Employers screaming for workers. why then is it so hard to put people into Jobs /Employment.

Matty is currently studying a degree in medical sciences: 3 years.

He then wants to study medicine: 6 years.

After that, he wants to study to become a specialist: at least 2 more years, depending. Most are longer.

11 years of full-time study (not including on-the-job training in multi-million dollar university hospitals if he passes his exams).

Matty is becoming a specialist to earn $180,000 per annum.

But what happens if Matty doesn't like being a specialist? What happens if he faints at the sight of blood?

Medical training doesn't come cheap. Matty's entire specialist training would cost more than one person being on Newstart for their entire life.

Still, Matty isn't doing it for the prestige, he's in it for the money. Hopefully he'll earn the big bucks and pay it off in HECS.

If he has a nervous breakdown, he won't be paying anything off. We'll be paying him.

I.e, people working in bum jobs for chump change are paying their taxes so that Matty can earn the big bucks - IF he passes his exams and doesn't faint when he sees his first cadaver.

Still, we need specialists.

Let's all hope that in ten year's time we'll be celebrating Matty's graduation.

sounds like you have a personal dislike to this person matty

What is the difference, if matty a new medical student does all these courses, to be a medical practicioner (A DOCTOR), then other courses to become a Specalist.

Too a already established doctor (medical practisioner) then doing all these course to be come a specialist.

nothing changes their, government, the people still pay for this

To clarify, I don't think we'd be paying for the post-grad study. This would have to come out of Matty's pocket, or his parents would need to pay. Unless he applied for post-grad fees HELP.

So that's 9 years.

On the contrary, I have a great deal of admiration for Matty. I would prefer to see him persue his political career than waste his time in this medicine racket.

We had a plan, and Matty decided to throw in the towel to become a specialist.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Why Should we? Reply #164 - May 21^st, 2012 at 10:17am Quote: Why should we? Because this is our country that's why you should, feel free to leave it.
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