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Reply #15 - May 10th, 2012 at 8:16am
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:11am:
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:02am:
progressiveslol wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 7:54am:
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 7:51am:
Hockey indicates support for welfare increases funded from mining tax




The federal opposition has abandoned its principle of opposing all the measures the mining tax will fund and support $2.9 billion in welfare increases to be funded by the levy.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/hockey-indicates-support-for-welfa...

Source please. What was it that Hockey said that you are refering to?




--> Indicates <--

By supporting spending the revenue from the mining tax.


Liberals have caved in to logic.

Just a shame the tax was so lightweight.


lol so all that has happened is liberal/hockey supported a spending bill. Nothing more, nothing less. This has nothing to do with the mining tax and everything to do with available tax funding and this is what garbage you are throwing out these days. Manipulated drivel.




Pyne on ABC24 has just said Liberals support spending the mining tax.


Time for the Liberals to get their spin straight.
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Reply #16 - May 10th, 2012 at 8:19am
 
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:16am:
progressiveslol wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:11am:
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:02am:
progressiveslol wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 7:54am:
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 7:51am:
Hockey indicates support for welfare increases funded from mining tax




The federal opposition has abandoned its principle of opposing all the measures the mining tax will fund and support $2.9 billion in welfare increases to be funded by the levy.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/hockey-indicates-support-for-welfa...

Source please. What was it that Hockey said that you are refering to?




--> Indicates <--

By supporting spending the revenue from the mining tax.


Liberals have caved in to logic.

Just a shame the tax was so lightweight.


lol so all that has happened is liberal/hockey supported a spending bill. Nothing more, nothing less. This has nothing to do with the mining tax and everything to do with available tax funding and this is what garbage you are throwing out these days. Manipulated drivel.




Pyne on ABC24 has just said Liberals support spending the mining tax.


Time for the Liberals to get their spin straight.

That still does not say what you wish it said. It is available tax funds regardless of where it came from.

Now get the liberals to say they support the mining tax bill and that would be different.

Just so you know, which you obviously dont, the liberals could still get rid of the mining tax, get the money from somewhere else and still support the bill you have on this thread.
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Reply #17 - May 10th, 2012 at 8:52am
 

The other two new measures were the $1.1 billion supplementary allowance, which will provide cash payments to welfare recipients, and a $1.8 billion boost to Family Tax Benefit A, which is paid to low and middle-income earners.

These will be funded from proceeds of the mining tax after the government axed plans to fund a 1 percentage point cut to company tax.

The opposition opposed the company tax cut because it was funded by the mining tax. But yesterday it abandoned its principle of opposing policies funded by the mining tax and said it would support these two welfare measures.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/business/federal-budget/cash-flows-as-mining-tax...
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Reply #18 - May 10th, 2012 at 8:54am
 
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The other two new measures were the $1.1 billion supplementary allowance, which will provide cash payments to welfare recipients, and a $1.8 billion boost to Family Tax Benefit A, which is paid to low and middle-income earners.

These will be funded from proceeds of the mining tax after the government axed plans to fund a 1 percentage point cut to company tax.

The opposition opposed the company tax cut because it was funded by the mining tax. But yesterday it abandoned its principle of opposing policies funded by the mining tax and said it would support these two welfare measures.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/business/federal-budget/cash-flows-as-mining-tax...

BTW if you hadnt noticed, the mining tax is already passed, the company tax is not even a bill, this new bill is a bill. Der
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Reply #19 - May 10th, 2012 at 8:57am
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:54am:
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:52am:
The other two new measures were the $1.1 billion supplementary allowance, which will provide cash payments to welfare recipients, and a $1.8 billion boost to Family Tax Benefit A, which is paid to low and middle-income earners.

These will be funded from proceeds of the mining tax after the government axed plans to fund a 1 percentage point cut to company tax.

The opposition opposed the company tax cut because it was funded by the mining tax. But yesterday it abandoned its principle of opposing policies funded by the mining tax and said it would support these two welfare measures.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/business/federal-budget/cash-flows-as-mining-tax...

BTW if you hadnt noticed, the mining tax is already passed, the company tax is not even a bill, this new bill is a bill. Der




So why have Libers flip flopped.

Was their previous position of opposing spending the revenue from the mining tax wrong?
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Reply #20 - May 10th, 2012 at 9:22am
 
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:57am:
progressiveslol wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:54am:
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:52am:
The other two new measures were the $1.1 billion supplementary allowance, which will provide cash payments to welfare recipients, and a $1.8 billion boost to Family Tax Benefit A, which is paid to low and middle-income earners.

These will be funded from proceeds of the mining tax after the government axed plans to fund a 1 percentage point cut to company tax.

The opposition opposed the company tax cut because it was funded by the mining tax. But yesterday it abandoned its principle of opposing policies funded by the mining tax and said it would support these two welfare measures.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/business/federal-budget/cash-flows-as-mining-tax...

BTW if you hadnt noticed, the mining tax is already passed, the company tax is not even a bill, this new bill is a bill. Der




So why have Libers flip flopped.

Was their previous position of opposing spending the revenue from the mining tax wrong?

No, they know they can get the money for this bill from another source, so it has nothing to do with the mining tax.
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Reply #21 - May 10th, 2012 at 9:30am
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 9:22am:
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:57am:
progressiveslol wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:54am:
____ wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 8:52am:
The other two new measures were the $1.1 billion supplementary allowance, which will provide cash payments to welfare recipients, and a $1.8 billion boost to Family Tax Benefit A, which is paid to low and middle-income earners.

These will be funded from proceeds of the mining tax after the government axed plans to fund a 1 percentage point cut to company tax.

The opposition opposed the company tax cut because it was funded by the mining tax. But yesterday it abandoned its principle of opposing policies funded by the mining tax and said it would support these two welfare measures.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/business/federal-budget/cash-flows-as-mining-tax...

BTW if you hadnt noticed, the mining tax is already passed, the company tax is not even a bill, this new bill is a bill. Der




So why have Libers flip flopped.

Was their previous position of opposing spending the revenue from the mining tax wrong?

No, they know they can get the money for this bill from another source, so it has nothing to do with the mining tax.


Where, the carbon tax revenue?
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Reply #22 - May 10th, 2012 at 9:30am
 
Welfare and tax are fine when liberals do it.

Just look at that GST, chains removal welfare. Do you see any people walking about in chains today? No! Imagine how much money they spent taking those chains off?

Bleeding heart liberals they should kill all of [insert minority here] on sight!
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Reply #23 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:35am
 
Of course it's cheaper to mine in the Congo, they have slave labour duh! If you don't like to pay your fair share go somewhere else, who cares. Swanny says we have 10% more mining applications since the introduction of the mining tax, we don't need another whingeing mining magnate, we have enough already. Go and rape the poor people of the Congo you greedy pig.
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Australia is very risky business, says our second wealthiest person Ivan Glasenberg

AUSTRALIA'S second wealthiest person has blamed the Gillard government for making the nation a less attractive place to invest than the world's poorest country - the Congo.

Ivan Glasenberg, the South-African-born head of commodities giant Glencore with a fortune valued at more than $6 billion, said the carbon tax and mining resources rent tax had made Australia a dangerous place to invest.

Speaking at a mining industry dinner in London, Mr Glasenberg said international mining companies were disadvantaged by not enjoying the same leverage in Australia that they did in poorer countries.

"At least in the Congo they need you, they want you there and if they start changing the rules, you may not continue investing," he said.

The war-torn Democratic Republic of Congo was this year voted by The Richest magazine as the poorest nation in the world.

Mr Glasenberg said the Gillard government's impositions on the mining industry made it easier for Glencore to defend investments in riskier countries: "One of the biggest questions was 'You are in difficult, risky countries, you have assets in the Congo in Africa, you have got assets in Zambia (and) Colombia (and) Kazakhstan, these are risky countries. We are not that happy investing in you, we don't know what these countries will do'.

"Ms Gillard made our life easy, because we could say 'Look, Australia just wanted to nationalise 30 per cent of their mines (with) a mineral resources tax!'

"So Australia does have its risk, yes. We saw the carbon tax, we saw the mineral resource tax. It is a first world country but is doing things that are making people cautious of investing, so Australia is becoming another country where you have got to make sure that the rules aren't going to change on you."

A spokesman for Treasurer Wayne Swan last night angrily refuted the claims.

"The facts speak louder than ever before when it comes to mining," he said.

"Figures from the Bureau of Resources and Energy Economics show Australia's pipeline of investment in resources is now at an all-time high of half a trillion dollars, growing more than 10 per cent in just six months ago."

http://www.news.com.au/business/australia-is-very-risky-business-says-our-second...
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Reply #24 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:40am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:35am:
Of course it's cheaper to mine in the Congo, they have slave labour duh! If you don't like to pay your fair share go somewhere else, who cares. Swanny says we have 10% more mining applications since the introduction of the mining tax, we don't need another whingeing mining magnate, we have enough already. Go and rape the poor people of the Congo you greedy pig.




Lets assume they pay exactly the same price - do you even understand the economic disaster it would cause the Congo government?

Last but not least - it's easier to point a finger and tell what others should do with their money.

But when it's your own money - it's a different story.
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Reply #25 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:48am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:40am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:35am:
Of course it's cheaper to mine in the Congo, they have slave labour duh! If you don't like to pay your fair share go somewhere else, who cares. Swanny says we have 10% more mining applications since the introduction of the mining tax, we don't need another whingeing mining magnate, we have enough already. Go and rape the poor people of the Congo you greedy pig.




Lets assume they pay exactly the same price - do you even understand the economic disaster it would cause the Congo government?

Last but not least - it's easier to point a finger and tell what others should do with their money.

But when it's your own money - it's a different story.


Maqqa your a fountain of wisdom ... but what was the point of all that? and how did it relate to the debate at hand?
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Reply #26 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:52am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:48am:
Maqqa wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:40am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:35am:
Of course it's cheaper to mine in the Congo, they have slave labour duh! If you don't like to pay your fair share go somewhere else, who cares. Swanny says we have 10% more mining applications since the introduction of the mining tax, we don't need another whingeing mining magnate, we have enough already. Go and rape the poor people of the Congo you greedy pig.




Lets assume they pay exactly the same price - do you even understand the economic disaster it would cause the Congo government?

Last but not least - it's easier to point a finger and tell what others should do with their money.

But when it's your own money - it's a different story.


Maqqa your a fountain of wisdom ... but what was the point of all that? and how did it relate to the debate at hand?


I was responding to the Congo comment
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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number
 
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