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Re: Happy to leave OzPolitic forever if..
Reply #30 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:51pm
 
Grey wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm:
El Gatto wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away.

I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction?

It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH
sides) under a bit more control.

I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example?

**Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks
from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**


Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened.

It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result.

Welcome to the rabble.


Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints.

There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them.

They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo.


Any even half-way rational comparison of Nazi Germany and Israel would come off saying that they are vastly different. In fact, anyone who says they are does nothing but look like a fool. Two governments separated by 70 years with one or two policies the same is hardly a demonstration of equivalence.

And when the same people who make these comparisons ignore the plethora of dictators and despots around the world who make a far more compelling parallel, then they lose almost all credibility. You dont have to support Israel to mock the comparison. You only need to have a modicom of logic and balance and it looks increasingly ridiculous.
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Re: Happy to leave OzPolitic forever if..
Reply #31 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:58pm
 
Grey wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm:
El Gatto wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away.

I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction?

It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH
sides) under a bit more control.

I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example?

**Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks
from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**


Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened.

It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result.

Welcome to the rabble.


Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints.

There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them.

They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo.


I did not support Liebermann but he is NOT a Nazi.
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Re: Happy to leave OzPolitic forever if..
Reply #32 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:59pm
 
borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:51pm:
Grey wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm:
El Gatto wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away.

I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction?

It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH
sides) under a bit more control.

I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example?

**Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks
from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**


Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened.

It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result.

Welcome to the rabble.


Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints.

There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them.

They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo.


Any even half-way rational comparison of Nazi Germany and Israel would come off saying that they are vastly different. In fact, anyone who says they are does nothing but look like a fool. Two governments separated by 70 years with one or two policies the same is hardly a demonstration of equivalence.

And when the same people who make these comparisons ignore the plethora of dictators and despots around the world who make a far more compelling parallel, then they lose almost all credibility. You dont have to support Israel to mock the comparison. You only need to have a modicom of logic and balance and it looks increasingly ridiculous.


As far as I can see theres only 1 thing the same. They are treating the palestinians the same way the germans did to them.

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Re: Happy to leave OzPolitic forever if..
Reply #33 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:04pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:59pm:
borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:51pm:
Grey wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:37pm:
borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm:
El Gatto wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away.

I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction?

It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH
sides) under a bit more control.

I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example?

**Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks
from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**


Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened.

It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result.

Welcome to the rabble.


Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints.

There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them.

They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo.


Any even half-way rational comparison of Nazi Germany and Israel would come off saying that they are vastly different. In fact, anyone who says they are does nothing but look like a fool. Two governments separated by 70 years with one or two policies the same is hardly a demonstration of equivalence.

And when the same people who make these comparisons ignore the plethora of dictators and despots around the world who make a far more compelling parallel, then they lose almost all credibility. You dont have to support Israel to mock the comparison. You only need to have a modicom of logic and balance and it looks increasingly ridiculous.


As far as I can see theres only 1 thing the same. They are treating the palestinians the same way the germans did to them.

SOB


shooting, gassing and committing genocide? Do you want to rethink that assessment before you end up labelled as 'not very bright'?
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Reply #34 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:05pm
 
That comment is offensive to Jewish people.
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Reply #35 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:07pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:05pm:
That comment is offensive to Jewish people.


It's not really 'offensive'. You cant really get offended by something/someone so obviously and excessively wrong. You just nod and smile and look around for their carer.
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Reply #36 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm
 
Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever?

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Reply #37 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:10pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm:
Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever?

SOB


Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail.
What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years?
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Reply #38 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:11pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:05pm:
That comment is offensive to Jewish people.


What israel is doing is offensive. I never mentioned jewish ppl. I mentioned a country. When ppl talk about countries they generally mean the government. Is it okay to talk about the american government and what they are doing? Then why not yours?

The only reason israel is getting away with any of this is because of religion. And the powers of israel know this and use it to thier advantage feigning "offense" @ any criticism.

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Reply #39 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:15pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:10pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm:
Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever?

SOB


Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail.
What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years?


He was a soldier. Israeli soldiers kill palestinains. How many ppl have you got that havent had a trial? How long until they get one? And what kind of trials are they?

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Reply #40 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:16pm
 
Israel is defending from attack.

Criticism of Israel but not criticism of the Arab aggression is because of anti-semitism. We know this that is why there is this talk.

Israel is democratic, free country but is Jewish state and Muslims hate this.

Well you know some thing we will defend the country with every last Jew on this holy land.
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Reply #41 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:17pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:11pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:05pm:
That comment is offensive to Jewish people.


What israel is doing is offensive. I never mentioned jewish ppl. I mentioned a country. When ppl talk about countries they generally mean the government. Is it okay to talk about the american government and what they are doing? Then why not yours?

The only reason israel is getting away with any of this is because of religion. And the powers of israel know this and use it to thier advantage feigning "offense" @ any criticism.

SOB


You compared the treatment of palestinians to the Holocaust. That is pretty much the equivalent of putting your hand up in class and saying "I dont understand the question".
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Reply #42 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:19pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:15pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:10pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:08pm:
Well shooting and calling for genocide. Havent got to the gassing yet as far as I know. How many palestinainas are locked up in jewish cells forever?

SOB


Palestinians who are found guilty of terrorism are in jail.
What was Shalit crime to be hostage for many years?


He was a soldier. Israeli soldiers kill palestinains. How many ppl have you got that havent had a trial? How long until they get one? And what kind of trials are they?

SOB


I was a soldier. I did not kill Palestinians.
It is not a crime to be national service.

You know how he captured? They dig tunnel and arrive from behind.
Cowards. Like when I was in Gaza. They throw rocks but then run away from us. Cowards.
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Reply #43 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:20pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:16pm:
Israel is defending from attack.

Criticism of Israel but not criticism of the Arab aggression is because of anti-semitism. We know this that is why there is this talk.

Israel is democratic, free country but is Jewish state and Muslims hate this.

Well you know some thing we will defend the country with every last Jew on this holy land.


Israel caused the "attack" in the first place by trying to take what little the palestinains already have and building settlements on thier land. Israels so-called "Defense" is disproportionate.

Holy land. Its all about religion.

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Reply #44 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:22pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:20pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 7:16pm:
Israel is defending from attack.

Criticism of Israel but not criticism of the Arab aggression is because of anti-semitism. We know this that is why there is this talk.

Israel is democratic, free country but is Jewish state and Muslims hate this.

Well you know some thing we will defend the country with every last Jew on this holy land.


Israel caused the "attack" in the first place by trying to take what little the palestinains already have and building settlements on thier land. Israels so-called "Defense" is disproportionate.

Holy land. Its all about religion.

SOB


1967 where is the settlements when we are attacked by three country?
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