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Reply #15 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:56pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:50pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:47pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
- You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same.


Yes Israel is a democratic government were as Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
- You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same.


Yes fairy tales always have happy endings, religion doesn't

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
- You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do.


Well now they call in police, they didn't 20 to 30 years ago, but a lot of things were different back then.

Move on

Hahaha yes the voting seems to do a lot seeming they head the same direction no matter what politician leads them. While Jews in Israel may have a bit more say the people they oppress do not, much like in Nazi Germany.

Most fairy tales do not have happy endings, in fact they are often based on horrible real life things.

The church hardly ever hands pedos over to the cops.


you basically get everything wrong. is it a natural skill or did you train for it?

as smithy said, nazi germany and Israel are vastly different governments. and dismissing religion as fairy tales is only a valid statement if you know pretty much EVERYTHING and you of all people demonstrate just how LITTLE you know.  and your 'pedo' thing makes YOU look a little suspect as well as more than a little naive.  where is your criticising of the boy scouts? or the ALP or ANY group that has affiliate with children. did it ever occur to your teenage mind that pedos may have targeted groups that work with children?? no of course not. you are an idiot.
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Reply #16 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 1:00pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:50pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:47pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
- You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same.


Yes Israel is a democratic government were as Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state.

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
- You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same.


Yes fairy tales always have happy endings, religion doesn't

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
- You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do.


Well now they call in police, they didn't 20 to 30 years ago, but a lot of things were different back then.

Move on

Hahaha yes the voting seems to do a lot seeming they head the same direction no matter what politician leads them. While Jews in Israel may have a bit more say the people they oppress do not, much like in Nazi Germany.

Most fairy tales do not have happy endings, in fact they are often based on horrible real life things.

The church hardly ever hands pedos over to the cops.



Jews were stripped of voting rights in Nazi Germany and then later stripped of the same rights as non-Jew Germans in every walk of life.

In Israel -

According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, the Arab population in 2010 was estimated at 1,573,000, representing 20.4% of the country's population.

The majority of these identify themselves as Arab or Palestinian by nationality and Israeli by citizenship.

Many have family ties to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, as well as to Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. Negev Bedouins tend to identify more as Israelis than other Arab citizens of Israel.

Most of the Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel since the Six-Day War of 1967, were offered Israeli citizenship, but refused, not wanting to recognize Israeli sovereignty.

They became permanent residents.
They are entitled to municipal services and have municipal voting rights

There are three mainstream Arab parties in Israel: Hadash (a joint Arab-Jewish party with a large Arab presence), Balad, and the United Arab List, which is a coalition of several different political organizations including the Islamic Movement in Israel. In addition to these, there is Ta'al.

All of these parties primarily represent Arab-Israeli and Palestinian interests, and the Islamic Movement is an Islamist organization with two factions: one which opposes Israel's existence, and another which opposes its existence as a Jewish state. Two Arab parties ran in Israel's first election in 1949, with one, the Democratic List of Nazareth, winning two seats.

Until the 1960s all Arab parties in the Knesset were aligned with Mapai, the ruling party.

A minority of Arabs join and vote for Zionist parties; in the 2006 elections 30% of the Arab vote went to such parties, up from 25% in 2003, though down on the 1999 (30.5%) and 1996 elections (33.4%).

Left-wing parties (i.e. Labor Party and Meretz-Yachad, and previously One Nation) are the most popular parties amongst Arabs, though some Druze have also voted for right-wing parties such as Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu, as well as the centrist Kadima

Arab Israelis enjoy full voting rights for Knesset elections alongside other non-Arab citizens.
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Reply #17 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 1:01pm
 
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you basically get everything wrong. is it a natural skill or did you train for it?

as smithy said, nazi germany and Israel are vastly different governments. and dismissing religion as fairy tales is only a valid statement if you know pretty much EVERYTHING and you of all people demonstrate just how LITTLE you know.  and your 'pedo' thing makes YOU look a little suspect as well as more than a little naive.  where is your criticising of the boy scouts? or the ALP or ANY group that has affiliate with children. did it ever occur to your teenage mind that pedos may have targeted groups that work with children?? no of course not. you are an idiot.

Hmm well if I am wrong surely you can provide something other then opinion to back up your claims..

We are not talking about how the Germans go treated you twat, we are talking about the people they oppressed and how it is the same as how Israel oppresses people.

I would love for you to point out a significant difference between religion and fairy tales.

The fact you continue to deny that the church supports pedos makes people like you look very suspicious.

My problem is not with pedos, because they are everywhere.. But people who protect them.

You continue to piss in the wind, never a proper answer and always a lot of baseless opinion if that.
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Reply #18 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 1:02pm
 
Wow Andrei how nice of them to give them a choice on which dictator kills their family
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Reply #19 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 3:48pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:24pm:
I do not have joy in the deaths of people in 9/11, but I believe they are necessary for positive change; which they have been.



Would you approve torture if it resulted in positive change or a positive outcome (thank you Susan Ryan)?
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Reply #20 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 4:32pm
 
The tykes certainly used every means at theyr disposal to cover up and rotate pedophile preists. The curren pope, that Rat-Singer, in his previous brief was responsible for telling church authorities to threaten angry parents with excommunication if they went to the police. Sweet guy.

They're probably doing it a lot tless, now that the victims are somewhat more empowered, but I dare say it still goes on (the covering up)

Toodlloo then!   Cheesy
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Reply #21 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:07pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:24pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:17pm:
I think people just object to anti-semitism and showing joy at the deaths of people in 9/11.

It just makes you a generally nasty human being.

Whether you stay or don't on here, I couldn't give a monkeys.

I am not anti semitic I just do not support the killing of innocent people.
I do not have joy in the deaths of people in 9/11, but I believe they are necessary for positive change; which they have been.

You can call me whatever you want but at least I care about what someone does, not who is doing it.
The fact you do that proves you lack empathy and makes me question if you actually care about the 9/11 victims at all, of course you will say you do but words are easy to write aren't they.

We both know if you could answer those questions you would.

That is not to say they cannot be answered tho.

PP don't feel so bad, nobody seems to answer my question on compulsory super either.
Most of my posts about finances seem to stop people on this forum in their tracks and I,am no financial guru.
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Reply #22 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm
 

Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away.

I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction?

It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH
sides) under a bit more control.

I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example?

**Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks
from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**
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Reply #23 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:33pm
 

Hawil, you could print my entire financial knowledge in 24pt caps on the back of a
stamp, so, apart from the odd general observation, I usually refrain from posting
on such matters.

Unlike some, I don't usually weigh-in on topics that I know very little about.
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Reply #24 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm
 
El Gatto wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away.

I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction?

It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH
sides) under a bit more control.

I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example?

**Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks
from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**


Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened.

It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result.

Welcome to the rabble.
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Reply #25 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:28pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
Stop being a drama queen and don't break the rules.

You won't have a problem.


Are there rule on this site? hell never noticed Wink
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Reply #26 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:30pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
- You can differentiate between Israel and Nazi Germany, or admit they are the same.
- You can differentiate between Religion and Fairy tales, or admit they are the same.
- You can explain how the church does not support pedophiles, or admit they do.

Only need one of them and I am gone forever.
Obviously this applies to certain members and the admitting part needs to be genuine.

Obviously most of you do not want me here and this is an easy and fair way to get rid of me, I am not asking much at all.

Yes I get angry about stuff but mainly because you people continue to deny reality, replacing genuine answers with politician like spin. I wouldn't care so much if you people could just admit the obvious, acknowledgment is the first key to fixing a problem.

I will say it again:
Most of you people do not care what someone does but WHO is doing it.
This proves that you lack real empathy and makes me question if you care about other people at all unless it can better yourself.



So I am waiting...



Come on PP, you are letting the loops get to you. Just ignore them and post what you want. This is expression no one has to agree with you and if backing down when you are wrong or don't have an answer was a rule we would all be up sh1t creek.
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Reply #27 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:31pm
 
nairbe wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:28pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
Stop being a drama queen and don't break the rules.

You won't have a problem.


Are there rule on this site? hell never noticed Wink


it is pretty hard to tell thats for sure.
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Reply #28 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:33pm
 
Come on Political Puppet...don't spit the dummy. I had my nose pulled by the moderator only a week or so ago and I bloody well deserved it.

Move on, it's all a mind thing.

I decided to stop throwing the cheap shots back when someone gave me a low one.

And...I feel I am writing with more integrity because of it.

Doesn't mean I don't get pissed off and have a go...just trying to eliminate, the 'Cheap Shots'.

Hang around pal, I like going toe to toe with you!
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Reply #29 - Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:37pm
 
borntorule wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:19pm:
El Gatto wrote on Apr 30th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Nah, you don't want to leave.....too many decent posters have already been driven away.

I've nearly chucked it in a few times, but I figure, why give 'em the satisfaction?

It's a good forum, it just needs to keep some of the more rabid nut-bars (from BOTH
sides) under a bit more control.

I mean, who needs 45 'Slipper threads' that all say essentially the same thing, for example?

**Actually, if you were to delete all the duplicate topics and personal attacks
from 'Politicians Suck', there'd be sod-all left.**


Fixing the forum was tried once before but a handful of malcontents destroyed that experiment and *this* is what has happened.

It might seem intuitively obvious to a very small number but unless there are proper rules, laid down and enforced for all in the same manner and efficiently and promptly executed, rabble is the result.

Welcome to the rabble.


Borntorule - hahahahaha, it's not hard to see where you're coming from. There's no rabble here just different sorts of people with differing viewpoints.

There's lots of different socialist countries in the past and present. It doesn't appear problematic to lump them all together at times. Nazi Germany and Israel are different in some ways and alike in others. It all depends how you view Naziism. The Nazi party didn't start off with extermination camps they worked their way towards them.

They started off doing wonderful things with the economy. You appoint a guy like Avigdor Liebermann to be Foreign Minister and deputy PM you have to be sailing pretty close to being a Nazi imo.
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