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If I wanted Australia to fail
Apr 24th, 2012 at 8:30pm
 
Well partly true for Australia and correlates, but the bottom statement is dead on



The real statement for Australia is

If I wanted Australia to fail, I would keep Labor as our government and have the Greens more power


If I wanted Australia to fail, I guess, I wouldn't change a thing
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Reply #1 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:39pm
 
Actually, in the next 18 months, your wish may be achieved as Miss Gillard tries to inflict as much damage to the Australian economy as possible so that the Coalition will have to start with the Australian economy in an unholy mess.
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Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:41pm
 
Depends on how you decide what is failure... Under Gillards leadership we are Number I in the world .. Howard NEVER got us that far up the ladder ...
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Reply #3 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:48pm
 
Johnsmith wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:41pm:
Depends on how you decide what is failure... Under Gillards leadership we are Number I in the world .. Howard NEVER got us that far up the ladder ...



And we'd better enjoy it while it lasts.

Once Tony gets in, we can kiss all of that goodbye.

We'll be challenging Greece and Portugal before you know it.
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Reply #4 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:49pm
 
Australia has one of the best economies in the world and it has all occurred during the GFC and been achieved by the actions of the ALP.....If we had more tax cuts as proposed by the Coalition the budget would be in far worse shape and we would have had a recession.....The ALP has provided Australia with its first ever AAA rating in our history.....You cretins have no idea do you???

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Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:59pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:49pm:
Australia has one of the best economies in the world and it has all occurred during the GFC and been achieved by the actions of the ALP.....If we had more tax cuts as proposed by the Coalition the budget would be in far worse shape and we would have had a recession.....The ALP has provided Australia with its first ever AAA rating in our history.....You cretins have no idea do you???

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Its a shame all you have to show for it is the global leftists awards and a debt, taxes and incompetence of the labor party.

Don't underestimate your thoughts on how dumb the Australian people are though, I am sure you dont.
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Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:07pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:59pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:49pm:
Australia has one of the best economies in the world and it has all occurred during the GFC and been achieved by the actions of the ALP.....If we had more tax cuts as proposed by the Coalition the budget would be in far worse shape and we would have had a recession.....The ALP has provided Australia with its first ever AAA rating in our history.....You cretins have no idea do you???

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If we open a quarrel between the past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future.
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Its a shame all you have to show for it is the global leftists awards and a debt, taxes and incompetence of the labor party.
Don't underestimate your thoughts on how dumb the Australian people are though, I am sure you dont.



No, we get the torrents of ill/misinformed bullshyt like this from the right as well.

Want Australia to fail?

It's easy!

Just vote Abbott. He'll do the rest.

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Reply #7 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:14pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:59pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:49pm:
Australia has one of the best economies in the world and it has all occurred during the GFC and been achieved by the actions of the ALP.....If we had more tax cuts as proposed by the Coalition the budget would be in far worse shape and we would have had a recession.....The ALP has provided Australia with its first ever AAA rating in our history.....You cretins have no idea do you???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

If we open a quarrel between the past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future.
Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Its a shame all you have to show for it is the global leftists awards and a debt, taxes and incompetence of the labor party.

Don't underestimate your thoughts on how dumb the Australian people are though, I am sure you dont.


You do realize most of the debt was incurred due to lost revenue caused by the GFC not increased spending which would have occured no matter who was in power don't you???

You do realize that the Coalition offered more spending and larger tax cuts at the 2007 election that would have eroded the budget bottom line by billions more if the Coalition had won the election don't you???

You do realize that the Coalition advocated more tax cuts going mostly to the well off instead of one off stimulus payments that went mostly to low income earners to stimulate the economy....Meaning that budget revenue would have been further eroded and there would have been no stimulus to the economy as high income earners already have disposable income don't you???

You do realize Australia would have been far worse off under a Coalition Government and we would have had none of the infrastructure built to stimulate the economy don't you???

Of course you don't because you have no idea do you???

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Reply #8 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:18pm
 

Well said, Phil, and 100% correct.
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Reply #9 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:21pm
 
Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
Well said, Phil, and 100% correct.


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Thanks Kat.....

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Reply #10 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:21pm
 
Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
Well said, Phil, and 100% correct.

Imagine if you could convince people it were true lol bit hard I would say. After all, you know the Australia people are stupid, pretty sure a labrat told us so.
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Reply #11 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:31pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:21pm:
Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
Well said, Phil, and 100% correct.

Imagine if you could convince people it were true lol bit hard I would say. After all, you know the Australia people are stupid, pretty sure a labrat told us so.


I don't know about that.....If the ALP where not so gun shy and took Abbott on by having confidence in their policies they would wipe the floor with the blow hard.....The problem is they are trying so hard to appeal to everyone they end up appealing to nobody.....Labor should just accept the section of the public that are self serving and don't give a stuff about anyone but themselves will never vote for them and do what is best for the majority not the minority.....Let Abbott appeal to the elites and nanny lovers in society and watch him lose his appeal!!!

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Reply #12 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:44pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:31pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:21pm:
Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
Well said, Phil, and 100% correct.

Imagine if you could convince people it were true lol bit hard I would say. After all, you know the Australia people are stupid, pretty sure a labrat told us so.


I don't know about that.....If the ALP where not so gun shy and took Abbott on by having confidence in their policies they would wipe the floor with the blow hard.....The problem is they are trying so hard to appeal to everyone they end up appealing to nobody.....Labor should just accept the section of the public that are self serving and don't give a stuff about anyone but themselves will never vote for them and do what is best for the majority not the minority.....Let Abbott appeal to the elites and nanny lovers in society and watch him lose his appeal!!!


You forget a few inconvenient items in your 'wipe the floor with him'

Talking about the GFC and why is Australia in better shape than all the other countries

1. Because Australia went into debt.
No because all the other countries tried that, Australia followed.

2. Because labor are good managers of money.
lol, well we know the answer to that one

3. Because Australia, compared to the other countries, started out their bailouts with zero debt and money in the bank to boot.
Spot on. With a safer banking system and we also benefited from the chinese bailout through purchases made from Australian goods by china with that money.

If liberals were like labor and spent on top of the close to $100 billion debt labor left Howard, then we would have started the GFC with debts over $100 billion. Considering Howard was in for 8 years and if he spent like labor, we could have been anywhere from $110 billion in debt, to $150 or so billion.

Starting the GFC with $100 billion in debt would have been bad enough, so start with that, but remember it could have been worse with labor spend and waste.

So how would Australia be fairing then and tell us now why Australia is in such a good position.

People know that it is much easier to spend and waste than it is to pull your head in and save.

You have an uphill battle convincing the people that a government who spends, wastes and taxes, is better than a government who did the hard work and went through the scorn of having to save.

We all know that labor are (trying) riding on the coat tails of liberals and our hard work.
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Reply #13 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:54pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:44pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:31pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:21pm:
Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
Well said, Phil, and 100% correct.

Imagine if you could convince people it were true lol bit hard I would say. After all, you know the Australia people are stupid, pretty sure a labrat told us so.


I don't know about that.....If the ALP where not so gun shy and took Abbott on by having confidence in their policies they would wipe the floor with the blow hard.....The problem is they are trying so hard to appeal to everyone they end up appealing to nobody.....Labor should just accept the section of the public that are self serving and don't give a stuff about anyone but themselves will never vote for them and do what is best for the majority not the minority.....Let Abbott appeal to the elites and nanny lovers in society and watch him lose his appeal!!!


You forget a few inconvenient items in your 'wipe the floor with him'

Talking about the GFC and why is Australia in better shape than all the other countries

1. Because Australia went into debt.
No because all the other countries tried that, Australia followed.

2. Because labor are good managers of money.
lol, well we know the answer to that one

3. Because Australia, compared to the other countries, started out their bailouts with zero debt and money in the bank to boot.
Spot on.

If liberals were like labor and spent on top of the close to $100 billion debt labor left Howard, then we would have started the GFC with debts over $100 billion. Considering Howard was in for 8 years and if he spent like labor, we could have been anywhere from $110 billion in debt, to $150 or so billion.

Starting the GFC with $100 billion in debt would have been bad enough, so start with that, but remember it could have been worse with labor spend and waste.

So how would Australia be fairing then and tell us now why Australia is in such a good position.

People know that it is much easier to spend and waste than it is to pull your head in and save.

You have an uphill battle convincing the people that a government who spends, wastes and taxes, is better than a government who did the hard work and went through the scorn of having to save.

We all know that labor are riding on the coat tails of liberals and our hard work.






There is NO hope for Aus while there are people who actually believe this crap.

The sad thing is, those of us with more than a handful of brain-cells KNOW it's
crap, and can't understand how anyone COULD believe it.


**Shakes head, walks off.**
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Reply #14 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:56pm
 
Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:54pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:44pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:31pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:21pm:
Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2012 at 10:18pm:
Well said, Phil, and 100% correct.

Imagine if you could convince people it were true lol bit hard I would say. After all, you know the Australia people are stupid, pretty sure a labrat told us so.


I don't know about that.....If the ALP where not so gun shy and took Abbott on by having confidence in their policies they would wipe the floor with the blow hard.....The problem is they are trying so hard to appeal to everyone they end up appealing to nobody.....Labor should just accept the section of the public that are self serving and don't give a stuff about anyone but themselves will never vote for them and do what is best for the majority not the minority.....Let Abbott appeal to the elites and nanny lovers in society and watch him lose his appeal!!!


You forget a few inconvenient items in your 'wipe the floor with him'

Talking about the GFC and why is Australia in better shape than all the other countries

1. Because Australia went into debt.
No because all the other countries tried that, Australia followed.

2. Because labor are good managers of money.
lol, well we know the answer to that one

3. Because Australia, compared to the other countries, started out their bailouts with zero debt and money in the bank to boot.
Spot on.

If liberals were like labor and spent on top of the close to $100 billion debt labor left Howard, then we would have started the GFC with debts over $100 billion. Considering Howard was in for 8 years and if he spent like labor, we could have been anywhere from $110 billion in debt, to $150 or so billion.

Starting the GFC with $100 billion in debt would have been bad enough, so start with that, but remember it could have been worse with labor spend and waste.

So how would Australia be fairing then and tell us now why Australia is in such a good position.

People know that it is much easier to spend and waste than it is to pull your head in and save.

You have an uphill battle convincing the people that a government who spends, wastes and taxes, is better than a government who did the hard work and went through the scorn of having to save.

We all know that labor are riding on the coat tails of liberals and our hard work.






There is NO hope for Aus while there are people who actually believe this crap.

The sad thing is, those of us with more than a handful of brain-cells KNOW it's
crap, and can't understand how anyone COULD believe it.


**Shakes head, walks off.**

Not that it would help you, but I added a couple of important points I forgot to add.

With a safer banking system and we also benefited from the chinese bailout through purchases made from Australian goods by china with that money.
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