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Reply #15 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:13pm
 
chimera wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:51pm:
Well I'm all for bikie power, Hell's Angels Rule OK, and a Big Bike on top of Parliament house with engine running 24/7 into loudspeakers over Canberra. Extreme right wing law and order, heavy chain for street guards to enforce dress codes: mini skirts for all sheilas, bare biceps for blokes.
Take trucks off the roads and build six-lane bike freeways to the marijauna state plantations.

So basically just a similar variation of the government in power today
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Reply #16 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:13pm
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:57pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
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Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.

Yep, I agree, O Farrell is going to find his ass kicked all the way to the high court over this, and he'll lose. This is discrimination, no matter what you think of bikies.
And if the high court approves?
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Reply #17 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:13pm
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:57pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
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Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.

Yep, I agree, O Farrell is going to find his ass kicked all the way to the high court over this, and he'll lose. This is discrimination, no matter what you think of bikies.





That's it.

In a nut-shell.

And that's all that SHOULD need to be said.

If YOU don't stand up for THEIR rights now, who will stand
up for YOURS when (not if) it's YOUR turn?
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Reply #18 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:15pm
 
Whoever said "divide and conquer".....spot on.

They start with one group and it slowly but surely spreads to dozens of groups, all hating each other.

I don't know what we can do about this police state that is developing at a rapid pace. It's like we're changing into a powerful and repressive regime where citizens will have no rights left.

It's happened in America, right before our eyes and the people are hardly raising an eyebrow, just taking it like the good little sheeple they are.

We will be the same, except for the select few who have their eyes on the ball, but it seems people are too indifferent to give a fig. Too involved in themselves to even care that the next generations will live under strict government rule.

We have already moved away from being a democratic nation to something else, maybe transitioning toward an autocracy.

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Reply #19 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:15pm
 
Kat wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:57pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
Quote:
Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.

Yep, I agree, O Farrell is going to find his ass kicked all the way to the high court over this, and he'll lose. This is discrimination, no matter what you think of bikies.





That's it.

In a nut-shell.

And that's all that SHOULD need to be said.

But what when saying it is not enough?
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Reply #20 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:16pm
 
Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:15pm:
Whoever said "divide and conquer".....spot on.

They start with one group and it slowly but surely spreads to dozens of groups, all hating each other.

I don't know what we can do about this police state that is developing at a rapid pace. It's like we're changing into a powerful and repressive regime where citizens will have no rights left.

It's happened in America, right before our eyes and the people are hardly raising an eyebrow, just taking it like the good little sheeple they are.

We will be the same, except for the select few who have their eyes on the ball, but it seems people are too indifferent to give a fig. Too involved in themselves to even care that the next generations will live under strict government rule.

We have already moved away from being a democratic nation to something else, maybe transitioning toward an autocracy.


We virtually are the same, if not worse.
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Reply #21 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:18pm
 


Political Puppet wrote:- "But what when saying it is not enough? "



That, I don't know, PP.

I wish I did.
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Reply #22 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:25pm
 
Kat wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:18pm:
Political Puppet wrote:- "But what when saying it is not enough? "



That, I don't know, PP.

I wish I did.

Sucks
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Reply #23 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:33pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:57pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
Quote:
Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.

Yep, I agree, O Farrell is going to find his ass kicked all the way to the high court over this, and he'll lose. This is discrimination, no matter what you think of bikies.
And if the high court approves?


I don't know how many of you have had much to do with outlaw bike clubs but they are capable of some extraordinarily vicious behaviour. When you are at one of their club houses you keep your mouth shut and head down, watch your back and be grateful you got out without catching some ones eye.

I have had some very good mates that wear colours but when the club is a gang it is not pretty. Yes they will defend against these laws and win as they did in SA. That is their right in this society but if you think they will back you up if the government goes Ferrel you are deluding yourself.
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Reply #24 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:36pm
 
nairbe wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:33pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:57pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
Quote:
Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.

Yep, I agree, O Farrell is going to find his ass kicked all the way to the high court over this, and he'll lose. This is discrimination, no matter what you think of bikies.
And if the high court approves?


I don't know how many of you have had much to do with outlaw bike clubs but they are capable of some extraordinarily vicious behaviour. When you are at one of their club houses you keep your mouth shut and head down, watch your back and be grateful you got out without catching some ones eye.

I have had some very good mates that wear colours but when the club is a gang it is not pretty. Yes they will defend against these laws and win as they did in SA. That is their right in this society but if you think they will back you up if the government goes Ferrel you are deluding yourself.

I know they wont defend the government,
but I wonder if they will act as militia groups if need be
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Reply #25 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:44pm
 
nairbe wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:33pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:57pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
Quote:
Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.

Yep, I agree, O Farrell is going to find his ass kicked all the way to the high court over this, and he'll lose. This is discrimination, no matter what you think of bikies.
And if the high court approves?


I don't know how many of you have had much to do with outlaw bike clubs but they are capable of some extraordinarily vicious behaviour. When you are at one of their club houses you keep your mouth shut and head down, watch your back and be grateful you got out without catching some ones eye.

I have had some very good mates that wear colours but when the club is a gang it is not pretty. Yes they will defend against these laws and win as they did in SA. That is their right in this society but if you think they will back you up if the government goes Ferrel you are deluding yourself.


I agree ... they consider themselves a law unto themselves .. i was driving through Wollongong once when I came to a red traffic light .. bikers were travelling into the other direction, four bikes went across the intersection so that they could block all avenues across the intersection, and then waved their biker mates through ... a car 4 or 5 cars back started beeping his horn, he could see that he had a green light but couldn't see anything else and was wondering what the hold up was .. another biker turned around, rode the wrong way through oncoming traffic (although traffic was banked up) until he reached this car and told the driver that if he beeped the horn again he would rip the horn out and shove it up his arse .. the driver had his young kids in the car ... I was shocked that they could get away with this, on a busy city street in broad daylight .. two police on bikes were further up the road watching but not about to get involved as they were outnumbered 300 to 2 ....

It's a shocking state of affairs when this total disregard for the law and for the general public happens .. something needs to be done ..
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Having said that, I'm not so sure O'Farrell is going about it the right way .. but bikers must be stopped  ... I'm not talking about a social motorbike club or dyke's on bikes etc, but those that think they are above the law.
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Reply #26 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:47pm
 
great one wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:44pm:
nairbe wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 3:33pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 2:13pm:
skippy. wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:57pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
Quote:
Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.

Yep, I agree, O Farrell is going to find his ass kicked all the way to the high court over this, and he'll lose. This is discrimination, no matter what you think of bikies.
And if the high court approves?


I don't know how many of you have had much to do with outlaw bike clubs but they are capable of some extraordinarily vicious behaviour. When you are at one of their club houses you keep your mouth shut and head down, watch your back and be grateful you got out without catching some ones eye.

I have had some very good mates that wear colours but when the club is a gang it is not pretty. Yes they will defend against these laws and win as they did in SA. That is their right in this society but if you think they will back you up if the government goes Ferrel you are deluding yourself.


I agree ... they consider themselves a law unto themselves .. i was driving through Wollongong once when I came to a red traffic light .. bikers were travelling into the other direction, four bikes went across the intersection so that they could block all avenues across the intersection, and then waved their biker mates through ... a car 4 or 5 cars back started beeping his horn, he could see that he had a green light but couldn't see anything else and was wondering what the hold up was .. another biker turned around, rode the wrong way through oncoming traffic (although traffic was banked up) until he reached this car and told the driver that if he beeped the horn again he would rip the horn out and shove it up his arse .. the driver had his young kids in the car ... I was shocked that they could get away with this, on a busy city street in broad daylight .. two police on bikes were further up the road watching but not about to get involved as they were outnumbered 300 to 2 ....

It's a shocking state of affairs when this total disregard for the law and for the general public happens .. something needs to be done ..
'
Having said that, I'm not so sure O'Farrell is going about it the right way .. but bikers must be stopped  ... I'm not talking about a social motorbike club or dyke's on bikes etc, but those that think they are above the law.

Not that I agree with that,
but if the government has the right to make up bullcrap laws then so should they I guess.
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Reply #27 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 4:09pm
 
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.. two police on bikes were further up the road watching but not about to get involved as they were outnumbered 300 to 2 ....



Yes the bikies have formed  paramilitary organisations that
are too big for the police to control.
They rule the streets.
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Reply #28 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 4:33pm
 
As an 18 year Police Veteran, I can tell you that the Bikie gangs are organised along military lines right down to a Sergeant At Arms


They call themselves the 1% ers i.e. The 1% of the population that operate outside of the law. The only laws they obey are the laws they set for themselves as bikers.

They are responsible for the enormous majority of drugs in this Country.

It is time to give the Police the power to form an enormous strike force whose full time duty is control of the biker gangs.

They need to be broken up forever.

This is an enormous undertaking and is tantamount to the State declaring War on them. Which is must do if law and order is to be restored to the State of New South Wales.

I agree things are out of control. The ONLY WAY to handle this, is through zero tolerance. Even if the military specialist sections and I AM nominating S.A.S. here; need to be brought in to help- Police in what is developing into a do we or do we not have Anarchy in this State with the Bikie gangs calling the shot.

The long and powerful arms of the bikers reach into every area of society and I am talking rich and powerful people. Would it surprise you to know that some of our top Q.C.s are moonlight bikers.

Don't think for a second that they are all nice people, they are not, there are highly skilled people in those organisations and they are VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.

During my career I spent years in a  covert area of the Force. I was heavily involved with surveillance of a particular Biker gang. Which through a task force's efforts, managed to break up the gang, to a great degree.

The principals went to gaol for many years for drug trafficking.

BUT LIKE A TEN HEADED MONSTER IT HAS COME BACK FROM OBLIVION.

WE MUST DECLARE WAR ON OUTLAW BIKER CLUBS NOW!!!!
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Reply #29 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 4:40pm
 
Baron,
The NSW cops are one of the biggest forces in the world.
They should be able to stop them.'
Maybe they do need the SAS.
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