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Police State..
Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm
 
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
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Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.
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Reply #1 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:18pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans

If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.


It is not a simple situation but all else aside i agree. We give up our freedom and rights far to easy whenever the government tells us the boogie man is there.

Freedom is not safe, safe is not freedom.
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Reply #2 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:20pm
 
Why do they need those pouncy trendy palors anyway.
Get a ballpoint pen and a compass, is everyone now soft?
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Reply #3 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:20pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
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Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.


Geez. Thats going a bit far. What can we do though? Can we do anything? Protesting just gets us arrested for being hippies and "rent-a-crowd. Surely theres something we can do?

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Reply #4 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:22pm
 
nairbe wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:18pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans

If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.


It is not a simple situation but all else aside i agree. We give up our freedom and rights far to easy whenever the government tells us the boogie man is there.

Freedom is not safe, safe is not freedom.

At its root the situation is simple, people compete in society and one group usually comes up on top. Right now the government is the top gang; the bikies are just smaller competition.
The only difference is the method in which their power and influence is enforced, but all natural for the position a certain gang finds itself in.

History is written by the victor even before the war is won.

We need our freedom.
Just look how hard it is for people to keep and fight for it now.. Imagine how hard it will be for future generations.

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Reply #5 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:24pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:20pm:
Why do they need those pouncy trendy palors anyway.
Get a ballpoint pen and a compass, is everyone now soft?

Haha agreed about the compass method, but still freedom is the issue here.
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Reply #6 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:24pm
 
I was talking with a friend about this last night. We are living in a time where rules are created just so they can be broken. Images of police muscle flexing and crackdowns and brutality serve to cement their authority in the eyes of the citizenry.

It's power porn and the intended audience swallows it whole and begs for more.

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Reply #7 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:26pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:20pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
Quote:
Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.


Geez. Thats going a bit far. What can we do though? Can we do anything? Protesting just gets us arrested for being hippies and "rent-a-crowd. Surely theres something we can do?

SOB

Would probably take a united front.
If bikie gangs could forget their problems and unite against the biggest and most messed up gang around then we might have a chance.
But it still takes the wider public as well, and they are not going to realize how important it is to defend these things. People just donít care.
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Reply #8 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:30pm
 

The 'All Bikies are Scum' mantra from the govt, cops and MSM doesn't help either.

It's like the 'dole-bludger' stereotype...all bullshyt, but the masses are stupid enough to believe.

Divide and conquer, anyone?
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Reply #9 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:32pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:24pm:
I was talking with a friend about this last night. We are living in a time where rules are created just so they can be broken. Images of police muscle flexing and crackdowns and brutality serve to cement their authority in the eyes of the citizenry.

It's power porn and the intended audience swallows it whole and begs for more.

The chains are getting tighter and bit by bit the rules add up.
The structure of our society is headed by a gang that has learnt how to be subtle and indirect in its method of control and influence.
The police serve an important role in oppressing people and creating a consensus that resistance is futile.

Lets just hope people can stand up to it eventually, it already seems to late. Not that we couldnt stand up but that we could never actually win.

The bikies may be our last hope in a few years and lets just hope they can get over economics and work together.


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Reply #10 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:35pm
 
El Gatto wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:30pm:
The 'All Bikies are Scum' mantra from the govt, cops and MSM doesn't help either.

It's like the 'dole-bludger' stereotype...all bullshyt, but the masses are stupid enough to believe.

Divide and conquer, anyone?
As I said history is written by the victor even before they have won. We would probably think the Nazis were good if they had won ww2, so why trust the government who is vomiting  out the same type of biased opinion bull.

Stereotypes hold a very strong power, more particularly the labels we use. Makes us seem like we are different when at the heart of it we are all the same.
If we could realise that we could probably stop the government doing these things.


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Reply #11 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:42pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:32pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:24pm:
I was talking with a friend about this last night. We are living in a time where rules are created just so they can be broken. Images of police muscle flexing and crackdowns and brutality serve to cement their authority in the eyes of the citizenry.

It's power porn and the intended audience swallows it whole and begs for more.

The chains are getting tighter and bit by bit the rules add up.
The structure of our society is headed by a gang that has learnt how to be subtle and indirect in its method of control and influence.
The police serve an important role in oppressing people and creating a consensus that resistance is futile.

Lets just hope people can stand up to it eventually, it already seems to late. Not that we couldnt stand up but that we could never actually win.

The bikies may be our last hope in a few years and lets just hope they can get over economics and work together.





I remember reading a 'Biker Fiction' story in the American 'Easyriders' mag
some-time back in the 1980s.

Basically, the Seppo public had grown so tired of their corrupt system that
they voted a bikie gang into power. So the 'Prez' WAS the president!!!

The military came under the control of the Sgt-at-Arms, and so on.

Suffice to say that the 'Dark Side' eventually staged a coup to
remove them, but it was a VERY interesting read.....
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Reply #12 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:45pm
 
El Gatto wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:42pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:32pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:24pm:
I was talking with a friend about this last night. We are living in a time where rules are created just so they can be broken. Images of police muscle flexing and crackdowns and brutality serve to cement their authority in the eyes of the citizenry.

It's power porn and the intended audience swallows it whole and begs for more.

The chains are getting tighter and bit by bit the rules add up.
The structure of our society is headed by a gang that has learnt how to be subtle and indirect in its method of control and influence.
The police serve an important role in oppressing people and creating a consensus that resistance is futile.

Lets just hope people can stand up to it eventually, it already seems to late. Not that we couldnt stand up but that we could never actually win.

The bikies may be our last hope in a few years and lets just hope they can get over economics and work together.





I remember reading a 'Biker Fiction' story in the American 'Easyriders' mag
some-time back in the 1980s.

Basically, the Seppo public had grown so tired of their corrupt system that
they voted a bikie gang into power. So the 'Prez' WAS the president!!!

The military came under the control of the Sgt-at-Arms, and so on.

Suffice to say that the 'Dark Side' eventually staged a coup to
remove them, but it was a VERY interesting read.....
Haha I was just watching a doco on easyriders.

Sounds like a good story tho.

Its important to note the milita's in America, the name has a very negative stigma but all they do is plan to defend america is the government ever goes rogue etc..
I see bikie gangs as being very similar just they need to realise it, perhaps they do.. But I dunno.
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Reply #13 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:51pm
 
Well I'm all for bikie power, Hell's Angels Rule OK, and a Big Bike on top of Parliament house with engine running 24/7 into loudspeakers over Canberra. Extreme right wing law and order, heavy chain for street guards to enforce dress codes: mini skirts for all sheilas, bare biceps for blokes.
Take trucks off the roads and build six-lane bike freeways to the marijauna state plantations.
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Reply #14 - Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:57pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 1:14pm:
This is about the time we start standing up for our rights...

NSW bikies face tattoo parlour bans
http://video.news.com.au/2225030221/NSW-bikies-face-tattoo-parlour-bans
Quote:
Bikie gangs will be banned from owning tattoo parlours and wearing their colours, in a bid to stop violence.


If they can do it to one group in society, they can do it to any.
In politics bad things always get seen in a good light, do not light the police state trick you into giving up your freedom and rights for 'safety' which they cannot provide and in many cases do a lot to jeopardize themselves, directly and indirectly.

Yep, I agree, O Farrell is going to find his ass kicked all the way to the high court over this, and he'll lose. This is discrimination, no matter what you think of bikies.
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