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Reply #60 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 12:13am
 
falah wrote on Apr 11th, 2012 at 11:51pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 11th, 2012 at 11:37pm:
Yadda -- we Israelis continue to battle as the little country which is surround all sides by aggressors who has started 3 wars with us in last half century.



The true agressor is Israel:

Deir Yassin: No passing over history


n April 9, 1948, scores of Palestinian civilians were massacred at the village of Deir Yassin through co-operative efforts of Yishuv forces like the Irgun, Lehi and the Haganah. 

The Zionist narrative on the events of 1948 and the Nakba - the Arabic word for the depopulation of Palestine - talks about the war as a defensive one where there was no intention on behalf of the Israeli forces to shift the demographics by force. Rather, that narrative tells us, the refugees were created during the hostilities which began when five Arab armies invaded Israel the day after it declared its independence on May 15, 1948.

Too often, people who talk about "making peace" advise that we pass over history and look forward without getting lost in the "duelling narratives" of this period. But peace cannot happen without a rectification of past injustices and we cannot approach this without talking about what these injustices are.

The Zionist narrative will counter, defensively, that any injustices are not the fault of Israel and this is where the issue of "duelling narratives" prevents further discussion. 

But there are simple, undeniable facts that any two sane people, Zionist or otherwise, should be able to agree on. For example, I think we can all agree that April 9, 1948, occurred before May 15, 1948. This is not a matter perspective, this is chronology.

When you actually look at the history - even versions documented by Israeli historians using official Israeli archival material - what you learn is that a very significant portion of the total refugees were created long before May 15, 1948. Had it not been for the hundreds and thousands of refugees flowing into Arab states and massacres like Deir Yassin, the Arab armies would likely not have been compelled to intervene.

Clearly, indisputable and historically non-controversial chronological facts blow significant holes in the Zionist narrative about cause and effect. But sequence is not the only problem. The other point of contention Zionists hold is that Israeli actions during the war were defensive and not intended to depopulate.

The goal of the Zionist movement was to establish a Jewish state in the land of Palestine which had a significant non-Jewish majority of Palestinian Arabs. Through years of immigration, the Zionists managed to grow from 11 per cent of Palestine's inhabitants in 1922 to about 30 per cent in 1946.

Refugee creation

The Zionist goal, which was unachievable for decades, came to fruition after 18 months of hostilities when Jews suddenly became 85 per cent of the population of the state of Israel. So, the Zionist narrative will have you believe that the Zionist dream of establishing a state with a Jewish majority, which was unachievable without war then, finally achieved during the fog of one, happened completely by accident.

One does not have to be a supporter of Israel or Palestine to accept this explanation - just astoundingly naïve. 

Sweeping changes in demographics over territory do not happen by accident. In the modern era, they are invariably state-driven initiatives. 

Prior to May 15, 1948, the Israeli state army, or Haganah, was engaged in conquering and razing scores of civilian villages - not military installations. There is really no "defensive" explanation for the demolition of scores of entire civilian villages. The only possible objective behind such actions is to prevent Palestinian Arabs from having homes to live in and thus force them elsewhere.

In March 1948, the United States - which had emerged as a superpower after the Second World War - decided to withdraw its support for the 1947 UN Partition Plan because the vacuum of power created by the impending end of the British Mandate would result "in chaos, heavy fighting and much loss of life in Palestine".

Seeing this, the Zionists knew their shot at achieving a Jewish state through diplomatic means would be delayed at the least, if not abandoned all together. They decided to achieve it by force. That is why the depopulation accelerated at this point.

Within 45 days, before May 15, 1948, nearly 170 towns and villages had been depopulated, accounting for about 380,000 refugees. This period, prior to the entry of Arab armies, saw the highest rate of refugee creation between 1947 and 1949. The effort to change the demography of the landscape by force was in full swing.

We cannot achieve any form of Israeli-Palestinian peace while ignoring this past.

As many marked Easter and Passover this weekend - celebrations of redemption - we should turn our focus today to the anniversary of a massacre and the decisive period of depopulation during which it took place.

Israelis and Palestinians alike cannot move forward without addressing the original sins the state of Israel was built upon.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/04/201249125656342960.html




Looking at the narrative above;

CULTURALLY, MOSLEMS ARE KNOWN TO BE INVETERATE LIARS.

MOSLEMS WILL LIE, WHENEVER THEY CAN, TO TRY TO ACHIEVE AN OBJECTIVE.


Q.
THEREFORE; WHEN WE KNOW THAT MOSLEMS DEAL SO 'LOOSELY' WITH THE TRUTH, HOW CAN WE TRUST ANY ONE OF THEIR NARRATIVES ?

A.
We cannot.







Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya


Google;
taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit


Google;
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"




How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War

http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war




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Re: SYRIA: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems
Reply #61 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 12:51pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 11th, 2012 at 11:26pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 11th, 2012 at 9:59am:
So why is it you support Israel government?
Their situation is no different from the one the Syrian government is in.

Syria is fighting terrorists


It is completely different in every way.

You are a hypocrit
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Re: SYRIA: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems
Reply #62 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 6:34pm
 
falah wrote on Apr 11th, 2012 at 11:51pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 11th, 2012 at 11:37pm:
Yadda -- we Israelis continue to battle as the little country which is surround all sides by aggressors who has started 3 wars with us in last half century.



The true agressor is Israel:

Deir Yassin: No passing over history


n April 9, 1948, scores of Palestinian civilians were massacred at the village of Deir Yassin through co-operative efforts of Yishuv forces like the Irgun, Lehi and the Haganah. 

The Zionist narrative on the events of 1948 and the Nakba - the Arabic word for the depopulation of Palestine - talks about the war as a defensive one where there was no intention on behalf of the Israeli forces to shift the demographics by force. Rather, that narrative tells us, the refugees were created during the hostilities which began when five Arab armies invaded Israel the day after it declared its independence on May 15, 1948.


Sounds like Abu's version of the history of the Caliphate, where it took over most of the known world by defending itself.
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Re: SYRIA: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems
Reply #63 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 11:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
falah wrote on Apr 11th, 2012 at 11:51pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 11th, 2012 at 11:37pm:
Yadda -- we Israelis continue to battle as the little country which is surround all sides by aggressors who has started 3 wars with us in last half century.



The true agressor is Israel:

Deir Yassin: No passing over history


n April 9, 1948, scores of Palestinian civilians were massacred at the village of Deir Yassin through co-operative efforts of Yishuv forces like the Irgun, Lehi and the Haganah. 

The Zionist narrative on the events of 1948 and the Nakba - the Arabic word for the depopulation of Palestine - talks about the war as a defensive one where there was no intention on behalf of the Israeli forces to shift the demographics by force. Rather, that narrative tells us, the refugees were created during the hostilities which began when five Arab armies invaded Israel the day after it declared its independence on May 15, 1948.



Sounds like Abu's version of the history of the Caliphate, where it took over most of the known world by defending itself.




Grin








[LIE #1]
Moslems are a virtuous people,

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

[LIE #2]
And in their own eyes, moslems are this worlds predominant identifiable group who are the victims of constant persecution [...by non-moslems].




#1, All moslems know that they are NOT a virtuous people.  [e.g. read the first post in this thread.]

#2, Moslems know that they are NOT a persecuted people, but rather that moslems themselves are projecting that particular accusation against the victims of moslem culture [i.e. ISLAM].






e.g.
Typical moslem 'virtue' on display, yet again;

Quote:

.....Shamim Bibi, 26, of village Chak No. 170/7R Colony, in the Fort Abbas area of Bahawalpur district, was charged under Section 295-C of Pakistan’s “blasphemy” statutes after neighbors accused her of uttering remarks against Muhammad. She was arrested on Feb. 28.
.......“Shamim has been implicated in a completely baseless case,” said her husband, Bashir Masih. “I was present with her at the time of the alleged incident … nothing of the sort happened. The Muslims cooked up a false story, though it’s still not clear who provoked them into leveling this accusation.”...



Pakistan: Christian mother of 6-month-old baby illegally held in jail for "blasphemy" after refusing to convert to Islam
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/pakistan-christian-mother-of-6-month-old-baby-...




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Where is the United Nations Human Rights Commission ?...

Where is Amnesty International ?...

Where is the mainstream Western media ?...

Where are the 'moderate' moslems, who are living in Western nations ?...

.....COMPLAINING EVERY TIME SUCH ABHORRENT COMMON OCCURRENCES HAPPEN WITHIN MAJORITY MOSLEM NATIONS ???
.....COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COMMON PERSECUTION AND OPPRESSION OF NON-MOSLEMS, LIVING WITHIN MAJORITY MOSLEM NATIONS ???






All moslems know that they are NOT a virtuous people.



Psalms 28:3
Draw me not away with the wicked, and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts.
4  Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert.


Psalms 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.



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Reply #64 - Apr 13th, 2012 at 12:38am
 
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SYRIA: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems


This thread is an example of how much better off we'd be without religion and the fanatics that support it.
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Re: SYRIA: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems
Reply #65 - Apr 13th, 2012 at 1:03am
 
Grey wrote on Apr 13th, 2012 at 12:38am:
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SYRIA: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems


This thread is an example of how much better off we'd be without religion and the fanatics that support it.






This thread is an example of how much better off we'd be without human insanity, driven [empowered] by unrestrained human carnal desires.




'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0


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Reply #66 - Apr 13th, 2012 at 10:29am
 
Yadda wrote on Apr 12th, 2012 at 11:47pm:


All moslems know that they are NOT a virtuous people.






CORRECTION;
All moslems who are NOT suffering from Cognitive dissonance, know that they are NOT a virtuous people.



Quote:

Cognitive dissonance
Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term to define the condition that results whenever an individual attempts to hold two incompatible, if not contradictory, thoughts at the same time even in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance


e.g.
This assertion is widely proclaimed by many moslems [and by virtually ALL political leaders in the West]....
"ISLAM is a peaceful and tolerant religion."



The reality, which is exposed by scrutiny....
THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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Reply #67 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:20pm
 
falah wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 12:17pm:
Yadda you are an idiot, somewhat retarded it would seem.

The government and military of Syria is run by Alawites, not Muslims.





"Egyptian Muslim cleric: Muslim Brotherhood presidential candidate said that the Shiites are more dangerous to Islam than the Jews"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/06/egypt-muslim-cleric-says-that-muslim-brotherho...


...Coz Shiites are not moslems,   ....Shiites are only pretending to be moslems.
/sarc off





Please believe me; .........ALL MOSLEMS ARE 'PRETENDING' TO BE MOSLEMS.

i.e.
ALL moslems are self-serving deceivers.

That is just the nature of ISLAM coming out, in moslems.

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Reply #68 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:21pm
 
The Shi-ite religion was started by a Jew. It has a lot of similarities with Judaism like praying only three times a day.
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Reply #69 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:31pm
 
falah wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:21pm:
The Shi-ite religion was started by a Jew. It has a lot of similarities with Judaism like praying only three times a day.


so murdering them is ok ?
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Reply #70 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:41pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:31pm:
falah wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:21pm:
The Shi-ite religion was started by a Jew. It has a lot of similarities with Judaism like praying only three times a day.


so murdering them is ok ?


Only someone as psychotic as you would ask such a question.
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Reply #71 - Jun 23rd, 2012 at 12:04am
 
falah wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:41pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:31pm:
falah wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:21pm:
The Shi-ite religion was started by a Jew. It has a lot of similarities with Judaism like praying only three times a day.


so murdering them is ok ?



Only someone as psychotic as you would ask such a question.





falah,

Only someone as psychotic as you would project the symptoms of your own psychotic sickness, onto others.




A simple definition of INSANITY.

Quote:

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.








...

ISLAM's 'gift', to America.

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Reply #72 - Jun 23rd, 2012 at 1:09am
 
falah wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:41pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:31pm:
falah wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:21pm:
The Shi-ite religion was started by a Jew. It has a lot of similarities with Judaism like praying only three times a day.


so murdering them is ok ?


Only someone as psychotic as you would ask such a question.


only an insane islamic would divert the question he directly alluded to.

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IRAQ: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems..
Reply #73 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 12:53pm
 

IRAQ: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems...
...and an example of moslems justifying this slaughter, as a moslem war against infidels.




In Iraq, moslems are slaughter moslems, just as they do Syria, Pakistan, Lebanon, etc, etc.
[Q. who are the REAL infidels ??? ]


View this gallery of 'rightly guided' moslem car bombings [no bodies];
http://www.startribune.com/galleries/217382211.html
AND;
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/car-bombings-in-iraq-1375112449-slideshow/




List of mass car bombings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_car_bombings




When moslems kill moslems in car bombings in Iraq [as well as in other ISLAMIC 'paradises'], we [those persons who do not understand the motives of REAL moslems] must understand that the moslems who perpetrate these outrages against civilians, are NOT, NOT, NOT, killing moslems.

Oh no!

The moslems [in moslem majority jurisdictions] who perpetrate these bombing outrages [at mosques, at funerals, and at markets] against civilians, know that they are doing Allahs 'good works', in killing the filthy infidels !!!

Q.
How can we be certain of this [misplaced motivation] ?

A.
Because ISLAM [and Allah] declares [in Allah's holy Koran] that while it is completely 'lawful' for a moslem to SLAUGHTER the infidel, a moslem must NEVER, EVER, kill [i.e. murder] a fellow moslem.

So, EVERY MOSLEM [bomber!] knows that he [the moslem] has a religious obligation [i.e. a 'religious' justification] to terrorise, subjugate [enslave], and/or kill, those who do not believe as they believe.

BUT, BUT, BUT, a moslem [bomber!] knows that he must NEVER, EVER, kill [i.e. murder] a fellow moslem.







So, then we [those persons who do not understand the motives of REAL moslems] must ask ourselves;

Q.
Who do these ISLAMIST [moslem] bombers think that they are killing [when they detonate car bombs in moslem majority jurisdictions], if they are not allowed to kill moslems ???

A.
These ISLAMIST [moslem] bombers KNOW, that they are killing non-moslems, the Kuffar [i.e. moslem >>impersonators<<]!





We can be absolutely sure that the moslem holy warriors are not targeting fellow moslems, in those bombings,

because Allah's law declares that moslems must never knowingly kill another moslem.


"......If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him."

Koran 4.092, 93


But, killing Kuffar, AND, killing persons who are impersonating moslems [i.e. not 'real' moslems] is completely 'lawful', for a REAL moslem.





Google;
car bombs in iraq


a few of the hits.....

Quote:
Car Bombings Kill Scores Across Iraq - NYTimes.com
www.nytimes.com/2013/08/11/.../car-bombings-kill-scores-across-iraq.html
8 mins ago - As Iraqis on Saturday celebrated Id al-Fitr, the holiday that marks the end of Ramadan, a string of car bombs struck in mostly Shiite ...

Iraq car bombings death toll rises to nearly 80 - World - CBC News
www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/08/10/iraq-car-bomb-baghdad.html
2 hours ago - A wave of car bombings targeting cafés and markets around the Iraqi capital of Baghdad has killed 69 people out celebrating the end of the ...

Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities | Reuters
www.reuters.com/article/.../us-iraq-violence-idUSBRE97905Y20130810?
4 hours ago - BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A series of car bombs in mainly Shi'ite areas of Baghdad killed 57 people and wounded more than 150 on Saturday, ...

Iraq car bombings leave 69 dead amid Eid al-Fitr celebrations - CBS ...
www.cbsnews.com/.../iraq-car-bombings-leave-69-dead-amid-eid-al-fitr-cel...
2 hours ago - Bloodshed comes after authorities promise to step up protection efforts for Eid al-Fitr celebrations marking end of Muslim holy month.

Iraq: Car Bombings Hit Ramadan Celebrations - Sky News
news.sky.com/story/1127049/iraq-car-bombings-hit-ramadan-celebrations
4 hours ago - Explosions targeted markets, busy shopping streets and parks where families like to mark the Eid holiday.





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IRAQ: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems..
Reply #74 - Aug 11th, 2013 at 12:56pm
 
CONTINUED FROM LAST POST....


IRAQ: An example of moslems slaughtering moslems...
...and an example of moslems justifying this slaughter, as a moslem war against infidels.










ISLAM
- is the worldwide death cult that sanctifies the murder, OR, enslavement, of non-members of that cult.

And when we see moslems slaughtering fellow moslems, what we [non-moslems] are witnessing is the moslem [perception of their] war against infidels !!

And we are infidels too, in the eyes of moslems.

So it is a pertinent question to ask;

When do the moslems intent to bring their war to us [to our communities] too ?




And what we [the persons who do not understand the motives of REAL moslems] must come to understand, is that there are many, many persons within the moslem community within Australia, who [IF THEY HAD THAT CAPABILITY AND THAT 'OPPORTUNITY'] would detonate car bombs within Australia - so as to slaughter those filthy kuffar/infidels!

[and there are already, many moslems languishing within Australian prisons, persons 'rightly guided' moslems who have been convicted of planning such atrocities - which WERE to be carried out here, in Australia!!]
[view the gallery of 'rightly guided' moslem car bombings, linked at the beginning of this post]



"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


Q.
Why are we [why is our government!] allowing moslems [who are persons who choose to embrace a such philosophy], to come to live among us, within our own Australian communities ?

And again i ask why ?

I am perplexed at the stupidity of our politicians, because these persons [moslems] embrace a philosophy, which teaches moslems [from childhood], that it is 'lawful' nay, it is AN OBLIGATION for [moslems], [when they have the 'opportunity'...] to afflict and to terrorise persons who do not believe as they [moslems] believe !!








THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY - A WICKED and DECEITFUL people....



EXAMPLE #1,

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4




EXAMPLE #2,

Speaking in the UK, publicly, AND THEN PRIVATELY, regarding the London 7/7 bombing victims.

Quote:

"......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.


Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar."



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html

n.b.
This moslem declared to the broader community that moslems condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.
BUT LATER IT WAS REVEALED, that that moslem omitted to declare that moslems in the UK, DO NOT regard the members of the broader UK community as innocent civilians.


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