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Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Reply #15 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:49pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:20pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:11pm:
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The majority of Australians are so sick to death of whinging whining gays that they say yes to SSM just so they will STFU and people and governments can get on with important issues.

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Sounds more like it.. Roll Eyes



Really?† The "majority"?

Any statistics to back this up, or is it just the majoirty of Australians you associate with?





Lighten up for goodness sake Roll Eyes



So, you made it up?

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Reply #16 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:53pm
 
Honky wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:18pm:
Honky wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Great argument.† You're saying that because one facet of leftist thought has caused great harm to the institution of marriage (and consequently, society as a whole) we should allow another facet to destroy it completely.



Nope.† I'm saying no such thing.



Oh.† My mistake.

So what was the relevance of showing recent trends regarding marriage and family?


So you would advocate for the reinstatement of "At fault Divorce"?
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Reply #17 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:54pm
 
Honky wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:18pm:
Honky wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Great argument.† You're saying that because one facet of leftist thought has caused great harm to the institution of marriage (and consequently, society as a whole) we should allow another facet to destroy it completely.



Nope.† I'm saying no such thing.



Oh.† My mistake.

So what was the relevance of showing recent trends regarding marriage and family?


That's OK: everyone makes mistakes.

The relevance is that it suggests that marriage may not actually be "the glue that holds society together."

Simple.
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Reply #18 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:59pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:36pm:
Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:35pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
matty wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:29pm:
If the ALP brought this in, then it would be yet another trash to democracy. They went to the last election with a promise of no change to the marriage act. Also, homosexual marriage is unnatural, and would dent the holy sanctity of the holy and sacramental union between man, woman and God.
Isnít marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.


Marriage does go against nature, but its not for you to say God doesnt exist.† You cant expect people to forget thousands of years of religion, a religion spread all over the world in many variants.† If you want tolerance, you should practice it as well.
Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.


That may well be the case, but it is still a very active belief system the world over, an entreched one within the culture of society.  Its hardly a good counter argument to those who oppose gay marriage, when marriage itself is a concept of society as well.

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Reply #19 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 1:07pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:54pm:
Honky wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:28pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:18pm:
Honky wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Great argument.† You're saying that because one facet of leftist thought has caused great harm to the institution of marriage (and consequently, society as a whole) we should allow another facet to destroy it completely.



Nope.† I'm saying no such thing.



Oh.† My mistake.

So what was the relevance of showing recent trends regarding marriage and family?


That's OK: everyone makes mistakes.

The relevance is that it suggests that marriage may not actually be "the glue that holds society together."

Simple.


That's a bit short sighted though. 

Would it be wrong to say social cohesion has lessened over the time frame to which your trends refer?
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Reply #20 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 1:14pm
 
Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:59pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:36pm:
Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:35pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
matty wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:29pm:
If the ALP brought this in, then it would be yet another trash to democracy. They went to the last election with a promise of no change to the marriage act. Also, homosexual marriage is unnatural, and would dent the holy sanctity of the holy and sacramental union between man, woman and God.
Isnít marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.


Marriage does go against nature, but its not for you to say God doesnt exist.† You cant expect people to forget thousands of years of religion, a religion spread all over the world in many variants.† If you want tolerance, you should practice it as well.
Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.


That may well be the case, but it is still a very active belief system the world over, an entreched one within the culture of society.† Its hardly a good counter argument to those who oppose gay marriage, when marriage itself is a concept of society as well.



Marriage is indeed a "social construct" or "unnatural" but it was instituted as protection for women and children.  The natural state of affairs is that a small group of alpha males would sire children far and wide, leaving the women to fend for them, and the children without a strong male role model.  By binding a man to a woman via marriage, it guaranteed support and family bonds.  I don't see the same need for homosexual unions - each man can fend for themselves just as well, and children are a non-issue since they cannot be produced within that union.

So, what's the point of it all?
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Reply #21 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 1:38pm
 
Honky wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 1:14pm:
Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:59pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:36pm:
Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:35pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
matty wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:29pm:
If the ALP brought this in, then it would be yet another trash to democracy. They went to the last election with a promise of no change to the marriage act. Also, homosexual marriage is unnatural, and would dent the holy sanctity of the holy and sacramental union between man, woman and God.
Isnít marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.


Marriage does go against nature, but its not for you to say God doesnt exist.† You cant expect people to forget thousands of years of religion, a religion spread all over the world in many variants.† If you want tolerance, you should practice it as well.
Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.


That may well be the case, but it is still a very active belief system the world over, an entreched one within the culture of society.† Its hardly a good counter argument to those who oppose gay marriage, when marriage itself is a concept of society as well.



Marriage is indeed a "social construct" or "unnatural" but it was instituted as protection for women and children.† The natural state of affairs is that a small group of alpha males would sire children far and wide, leaving the women to fend for them, and the children without a strong male role model.† By binding a man to a woman via marriage, it guaranteed support and family bonds.† I don't see the same need for homosexual unions - each man can fend for themselves just as well, and children are a non-issue since they cannot be produced within that union.

So, what's the point of it all?

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.
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Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Reply #22 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 1:48pm
 
Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:53am:
So when will the ALP put it to the floor?



They WON'T

NOR will the LibNats

( ... BOTH, in either Government or Opposition)




Yet the equality reform has MAJORITY support in the broad electorate ?


YES




But NOT in the MARGINAL "bogan belts" ( ... western 'burbs" of the capitals) - or the "troppo zones" ( ... FNQ and the NT)


And THESE electorates are where governments are MADE and DESTROYED





( ... but don't expect EITHER party to admit to THAT)







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Reply #23 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:00pm
 
I surveyed a more representative sample of ordinary hard working church going Australians and few support Homo Marriage - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring.† This is a bad idea for the structure of society and the economy cannot sustain it - the choice is stark - Homo welfare = Kids in a state farm and the Grandparents and disabled Euthanized - its that simple.† Society cannot sustain economically the socialist, nanny state materialist, pure economics model without mass killings. Smiley
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Reply #24 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:09pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 1:38pm:
The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.



No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

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Reply #25 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:10pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:49pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:20pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:11pm:
>>>>>>

The majority of Australians are so sick to death of whinging whining gays that they say yes to SSM just so they will STFU and people and governments can get on with important issues.

>>>>>>

Sounds more like it.. Roll Eyes



Really?† The "majority"?

Any statistics to back this up, or is it just the majoirty of Australians you associate with?





Lighten up for goodness sake Roll Eyes



So, you made it up?



Oh no I didnít make it up it was a real study.

Cheesy Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:13pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:09pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 1:38pm:
The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.



No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.


No requirement needed.
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Reply #27 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:15pm
 
If your son comes home and tells you he is a homosexual you should disown him for the sake of the family unit and structure.  That is the normal and natural structure of family.  Homo Atheist welfare is not in accord with how family and society evolved and organized itself naturally, it must be forced on us. Smiley
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Reply #28 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:23pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:00pm:
... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring.† ...



Is that just a subjective opinion, or do you actually have something to substantiate the claim?

I'd be interested in seeing whatever you have.

Plus, what's really behind their agenda?  What is it that these "atheist Political elites and subversives" are ultimately trying to achieve?  A new world order run by lesbian couples?

It all sounds very intriguing.


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Reply #29 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:25pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 2:10pm:
[quote author=24393820343820570 link=1333586457/15#15 date=1333594178]
Oh no I didnít make it up it was a real study.

Cheesy Roll Eyes



Cool.

Do you have a link to it?

Who actually carried out the study?
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