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FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:30am
 
FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury

http://www.naturalnews.com/035432_vaccines_mercury_court_case.html
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/02/fda-admits-in-court-case-that-vaccin...


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It is a common myth today that the vaccines administered to children no longer contain the toxic additive thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative linked to causing permanent neurological damage. But a recent federal case involving the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has revealed that, contrary to this widely-held belief, thimerosal is actually still present in many batch vaccines, including in the annual influenza vaccine that is now administered to children as young as six months old.


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The Food and Drug Administration is not liable for approving a mercury-based vaccine preservative because more expensive, mercury-free vaccines are available upon request, a federal judge ruled.
     Thimerosal is a mercury-based compound that is FDA-approved as a vaccine preservative. Organizations such as the Coalition for Mercury-Free Drugs, however, have expressed concern about the preservative.


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Mercury is the second most toxic element on earth to plutonium. Toxicity of mercury has been linked to many different diseases, including autism, learning disabilities, Alzheimer’s, multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, lupus, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, depression, and bipolar disorder. The amount of mercury found in one mercury thermometer is enough to pollute a small lake.

Health effects of mercury toxicity have been a concern because of the potential for it to act as a poison. Toxic doses of mercury can cause developmental effects in the fetus, as well as affecting the kidney and the nervous system in children and adults. Mercury exists in a number of different chemical forms, each one consisting of different levels of toxicity. The forms of mercury can also be converted from one to another in the environment and in the body, so symptoms caused by mercury poisoning depends on the precise chemical forms involved.

Mercury can be toxic when inhaled, eaten, or when placed on the skin. Low concentrations of mercury may appear to have no effect but signs of toxicity can develop later or become more noticeable with continued exposure. When toxicity in humans takes place loss of feeling or a burning sensation in arms and legs, psychological effects, loss of memory, loss of vision, loss of hearing, paralysis, congenital malformations, kidney toxicity, and death may occur. Prenatal toxicity can result in a child with normal appearance at birth but who later exhibits a developmental delay in the ability to walk and/or talk. Because of the long latent period for observable effects, the need for treatment may be recognized too late.

Health effects vary according to the amount of mercury exposure is taken into the body. The health risks of mercury at low levels of exposure remain uncertain, but this continues to be a highly debatable topic with ongoing scientific investigation. Fetuses, infants and small children appear to be particularly sensitive to mercury because their brains are still developing. Vaccines with mercury have been considered to contribute to autism, learning disabilities, Alzheimer’s Disease, and other neurological conditions, and an FDA review conducted in 1998 determined that, at the time, children who received the full complement of childhood vaccines were potentially exposed to levels of mercury that were sometimes 30 to 50 times the acceptable levels established by the EPA.

High-level exposures to mercury can cause serious effects or even be lethal. Several historical examples of epidemic mercury poisonings in other parts of the world provide classic examples of investigative epidemiology and toxicology and serve to highlight the reasons why regulators are concerned about mercury. Effects on the brain and nervous system are frequently seen with high-level exposures to mercury and can be quite severe.
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Reply #1 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:32am
 
And just to show how much they care:

FDA Won't Ban BPA Chemical in Packaging

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/fda-rejects-ban-bpa/story?id=16038492

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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced today that it won't ban bisphenol A (BPA), the controversial chemical that is widely used in food packaging.
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Reply #2 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:36am
 
They keep talking about the mercury, but what about the formaldehyde and the antifreeze and the aluminium that we inject into the bloodstreams of newly born babies?


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Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:41am
 
Neither of my kids have ever had a single vaccination.  Smiley i




...and now let the accusations of "bad parenting" "no right to have kids" "wanting children to die" etc etc begin!




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Reply #4 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:41am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:36am:
They keep talking about the mercury, but what about the formaldehyde and the antifreeze and the aluminium that we inject into the bloodstreams of newly born babies?



You make a good point.
When an important issue like this reaches the surface and gains credibility the official bodies, media etc tend to focus on a very small part of the big picture.

It is good to see the FDA actually admit it tho, even tho it will continue seeming as big pharma controls the regulation and everything else.

But o well, its only kids lives isn’t it.
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Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:44am
 
If you don't like it, never use Mercurochrome and don't burn natural gas either. Have you checked your soap for mercury content? If the caustic soda was produced by a mercury diaphragm process then your soap may actually contain mercury.

Again, it's all a question of the dose.  There is a safe dose, especially when it comes to a single shot vaccine.

It was Paracelsus who said:

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Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.


All preservatives are by nature hazardous in some way.

By the way (Jasignature may know) but I'm pretty sure that they stopped using thiomersal (correct spelling) in Australia years ago.  Don't stop vaccinating your kids. The consequences of that are far worse.
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Reply #6 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:47am
 
... wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:41am:
Neither of my kids have ever had a single vaccination.  Smiley i




...and now let the accusations of "bad parenting" "no right to have kids" "wanting children to die" etc etc begin!




You know some parents actually get their kids taken away for that.

But it seems you made a very smart decision:

New Study: Vaccinated Children Have 2 to 5 Times More Diseases and Disorders Than Unvaccinated Children

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/236170-New-Study-Vaccinated-Children-Have-2-to...

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Preventable Vaccine-induced Diseases

A German study released in September 2011 of about 8000 UNVACCINATED children, newborn to 19 years, show vaccinated children have at least 2 to 5 times more diseases and disorders than unvaccinated children.

The results are presented in the bar chart below; the complete data and study results are here. The data is compared to the national German KIGGS health study of the children in the general population. Most of the respondents to the survey were from the U.S. (Click on the chart to see it better)


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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #7 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:48am
 
... wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:41am:
Neither of my kids have ever had a single vaccination.  Smiley i




...and now let the accusations of "bad parenting" "no right to have kids" "wanting children to die" etc etc begin!







Good for you, Wesley. Really. My son had his first immunisation  a couple of months ago - tetanus. He's almost 6 years old.

If I had another child, it would be the same.

My doctor supports me completely.

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Reply #8 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:48am
 
muso wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:44am:
If you don't like it, never use Mercurochrome and don't burn natural gas either. Have you checked your soap for mercury content? If the caustic soda was produced by a mercury diaphram process then your soap may actually contain mercury.

Again, it's all a question of the dose.  There is a safe dose, especially when it comes to a single shot vaccine.

It was Paracelsus who said:

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Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.


All preservatives are by nature hazardous in some way.

By the way (Jasignature may know) but I'm pretty sure that they stopped using thiomersal (sp?) in Australia years ago.  Don't stop vaccinating your kids. The consequences of that are far worse.
Please tell that to the people who have had their lives ruined by vaccinations.

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Reply #9 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:53am
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:48am:
muso wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:44am:
If you don't like it, never use Mercurochrome and don't burn natural gas either. Have you checked your soap for mercury content? If the caustic soda was produced by a mercury diaphram process then your soap may actually contain mercury.

Again, it's all a question of the dose.  There is a safe dose, especially when it comes to a single shot vaccine.

It was Paracelsus who said:

Quote:
Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.


All preservatives are by nature hazardous in some way.

By the way (Jasignature may know) but I'm pretty sure that they stopped using thiomersal (sp?) in Australia years ago.  Don't stop vaccinating your kids. The consequences of that are far worse.
Please tell that to the people who have had their lives ruined by vaccinations.


You think that's worse than the risk of Polio?
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Reply #10 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:56am
 
muso wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:53am:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:48am:
muso wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:44am:
If you don't like it, never use Mercurochrome and don't burn natural gas either. Have you checked your soap for mercury content? If the caustic soda was produced by a mercury diaphram process then your soap may actually contain mercury.

Again, it's all a question of the dose.  There is a safe dose, especially when it comes to a single shot vaccine.

It was Paracelsus who said:

Quote:
Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.


All preservatives are by nature hazardous in some way.

By the way (Jasignature may know) but I'm pretty sure that they stopped using thiomersal (sp?) in Australia years ago.  Don't stop vaccinating your kids. The consequences of that are far worse.
Please tell that to the people who have had their lives ruined by vaccinations.


You think that's worse than the risk of Polio?

Well yes in the sense that people are profiting off vaccinations.
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Reply #11 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:04am
 
muso wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:53am:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:48am:
muso wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:44am:
If you don't like it, never use Mercurochrome and don't burn natural gas either. Have you checked your soap for mercury content? If the caustic soda was produced by a mercury diaphram process then your soap may actually contain mercury.

Again, it's all a question of the dose.  There is a safe dose, especially when it comes to a single shot vaccine.

It was Paracelsus who said:

Quote:
Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.


All preservatives are by nature hazardous in some way.

By the way (Jasignature may know) but I'm pretty sure that they stopped using thiomersal (sp?) in Australia years ago.  Don't stop vaccinating your kids. The consequences of that are far worse.
Please tell that to the people who have had their lives ruined by vaccinations.


You think that's worse than the risk of Polio?


I'm sure you've probably got memories of Polio and the damage it caused, and it'd be hard to forget - but there comes a point when you say "you know, I think the threat has passed"
How long do we have to keep immunising for a disease that is, for all intents and purposes, gone.  We don't seem to worry so much about the black plague these days.  Polio is in the same boat. 

the ner ending list of "essential" vaccinations for minor illnesses just breeds cynicism - since when has chicken pox been sooo dangerous that to forgo a vaccination is to dance with death?  the flu vaccine, and gardasil are others that are just blatant profiteering, and have nothign to do with preserving health.  They pushed just a *little* too hard with the scare campaigns.

Meanwhile, despite all the "life saving" vaccines/treatments/drugs, we just get sicker and sicker, feebler and feebler.
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Reply #12 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:18am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:36am:
They keep talking about the mercury, but what about the formaldehyde and the antifreeze and the aluminium that we inject into the bloodstreams of newly born babies?


What a load of hogwash.

The "formaldehyde" contained in a few vaccines is a naturally occurring material, created inside your body by muscle tissue every day.

There is no antifreeze in vaccines, and never has been.

There is more aluminium in breast milk than in vaccines, and hundreds of times more in a single antacid tablet than in a lifetime of vaccines.

Lastly, vaccines are not "injected into the bloodstream", they are intra-muscular.




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Reply #13 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:38am
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:30am:
FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury

http://www.naturalnews.com/035432_vaccines_mercury_court_case.html
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/02/fda-admits-in-court-case-that-vaccin...


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It is a common myth today that the vaccines administered to children no longer contain the toxic additive thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative linked to causing permanent neurological damage. But a recent federal case involving the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has revealed that, contrary to this widely-held belief, thimerosal is actually still present in many batch vaccines, including in the annual influenza vaccine that is now administered to children as young as six months old.


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Mercury-Based Vaccine Preservative Lives On

http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/03/23/44979.htm

Quote:
The Food and Drug Administration is not liable for approving a mercury-based vaccine preservative because more expensive, mercury-free vaccines are available upon request, a federal judge ruled.
     Thimerosal is a mercury-based compound that is FDA-approved as a vaccine preservative. Organizations such as the Coalition for Mercury-Free Drugs, however, have expressed concern about the preservative.


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Mercury is the second most toxic element on earth to plutonium. Toxicity of mercury has been linked to many different diseases, including autism, learning disabilities, Alzheimer’s, multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, lupus, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, depression, and bipolar disorder. The amount of mercury found in one mercury thermometer is enough to pollute a small lake.

Health effects of mercury toxicity have been a concern because of the potential for it to act as a poison. Toxic doses of mercury can cause developmental effects in the fetus, as well as affecting the kidney and the nervous system in children and adults. Mercury exists in a number of different chemical forms, each one consisting of different levels of toxicity. The forms of mercury can also be converted from one to another in the environment and in the body, so symptoms caused by mercury poisoning depends on the precise chemical forms involved.

Mercury can be toxic when inhaled, eaten, or when placed on the skin. Low concentrations of mercury may appear to have no effect but signs of toxicity can develop later or become more noticeable with continued exposure. When toxicity in humans takes place loss of feeling or a burning sensation in arms and legs, psychological effects, loss of memory, loss of vision, loss of hearing, paralysis, congenital malformations, kidney toxicity, and death may occur. Prenatal toxicity can result in a child with normal appearance at birth but who later exhibits a developmental delay in the ability to walk and/or talk. Because of the long latent period for observable effects, the need for treatment may be recognized too late.

Health effects vary according to the amount of mercury exposure is taken into the body. The health risks of mercury at low levels of exposure remain uncertain, but this continues to be a highly debatable topic with ongoing scientific investigation. Fetuses, infants and small children appear to be particularly sensitive to mercury because their brains are still developing. Vaccines with mercury have been considered to contribute to autism, learning disabilities, Alzheimer’s Disease, and other neurological conditions, and an FDA review conducted in 1998 determined that, at the time, children who received the full complement of childhood vaccines were potentially exposed to levels of mercury that were sometimes 30 to 50 times the acceptable levels established by the EPA.

High-level exposures to mercury can cause serious effects or even be lethal. Several historical examples of epidemic mercury poisonings in other parts of the world provide classic examples of investigative epidemiology and toxicology and serve to highlight the reasons why regulators are concerned about mercury. Effects on the brain and nervous system are frequently seen with high-level exposures to mercury and can be quite severe.


So much BS, such a small space.

Mercury is most certainly not "the second most toxic material on the earth besides plutonium". How can anyone believe anything from a site that promotes such dribble as fact? http://www.mycolleaguesareidiots.com/archive/2009/09/21/428.aspx

And Natural News? Seriously, you take your advice from the Health Danger? http://www.thetwentyfirstfloor.com/?p=1145

If you're woried about mercury, then you'd better stop eating fish, since a single can of tuna contains more of it than receiving a lifetime of old, thiomersal-preserved vaccines.

Generally speaking, all childhood vaccines are thiomersal-free and have been for a decade. The US do administer a few that still have it, but we don't in Australia.

Either way, the supposed health effects have long been debunked. One only needs to compare stats from a decade ago, when kids received a dozen thiomersal-preserved vaccines to today where they generally receive none. There has been no decline in chronic illness or autism, despite the massive reduction (or elimination) from the schedule.

There have also been numerous studies into effects, and nothing has been found.

That rubbish KIGGs survey you posted further down is absolute tripe. No controls, a self reporting study done by an anti-vaccination group on their website. What would you expect it to say? It would be like a tobacco company doing a survey on their website and declaring that cigarettes are safe.

Suggest you look at some real, scientific research rather than the made-up rubbish from loopy antivaxxers. Here's a few for a start:
MMR/Autism: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa021134
MMR/Autism: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080204212852.htm
Vaccines/Autism: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/118/1/e139.abstract
Vaccines/Neutological development: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2010/05/24/peds.2009-2489.ab...
Vaccines/Asthma: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/3/944.abstract
Vaccines/Asthma&Allergies: http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.91.7.1126
Vaccines/Diabetes: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11731639
Too many vaccines? http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/109/1/124.full?hits=25&FIRSTINDEX=...



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Reply #14 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:55am
 
NBNMyths wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:38am:
So much BS, such a small space.

Mercury is most certainly not "the second most toxic material on the earth besides plutonium". How can anyone believe anything from a site that promotes such dribble as fact? http://www.mycolleaguesareidiots.com/archive/2009/09/21/428.aspx

And Natural News? Seriously, you take your advice from the Health Danger? http://www.thetwentyfirstfloor.com/?p=1145

If you're woried about mercury, then you'd better stop eating fish, since a single can of tuna contains more of it than receiving a lifetime of old, thiomersal-preserved vaccines.

Generally speaking, all childhood vaccines are thiomersal-free and have been for a decade. The US do administer a few that still have it, but we don't in Australia.

Either way, the supposed health effects have long been debunked. One only needs to compare stats from a decade ago, when kids received a dozen thiomersal-preserved vaccines to today where they generally receive none. There has been no decline in chronic illness or autism, despite the massive reduction (or elimination) from the schedule.

There have also been numerous studies into effects, and nothing has been found.

That rubbish KIGGs survey you posted further down is absolute tripe. No controls, a self reporting study done by an anti-vaccination group on their website. What would you expect it to say? It would be like a tobacco company doing a survey on their website and declaring that cigarettes are safe.

Suggest you look at some real, scientific research rather than the made-up rubbish from loopy antivaxxers. Here's a few for a start:
MMR/Autism: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa021134
MMR/Autism: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080204212852.htm
Vaccines/Autism: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/118/1/e139.abstract
Vaccines/Neutological development: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2010/05/24/peds.2009-2489.ab...
Vaccines/Asthma: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/3/944.abstract
Vaccines/Asthma&Allergies: http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.91.7.1126
Vaccines/Diabetes: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11731639
Too many vaccines? http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/109/1/124.full?hits=25&FIRSTINDEX=...





Thank you. Finally some rationality shines through.
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